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Infinity Ward bans 1,600 Modern Warfare 3 cheaters
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article published on 21 November, 2011
Infinity Ward announced this weekend that it had banned 1600 Modern Warfare 3 players, each accused of using glitches in the game to either hack or cheat in-game.
More players are expected to be banned as the week progresses.
Says the company via Twitter:
Any attempt to cheat, hack, or glitch in #MW3 will not be tolerated. 1600+ bans issued. Updates in works. Please [continue] to ... [ read the full article ]
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22. November 2011 @ 13:02 |
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All I have to say is that glitches have existed peacefully and gleefully since we've started producing games. It's in the nature of it, somewhere some negligent code is going to give some creative players some fun and eventually be heavily exploited. At which point you don't go around ruining your customers' data, you throw out a fix. No more exploitation of something that was legitimately there, and now you can move on to other problems which need fixing.
This route is just going to be a completely useless endeavor into pissing people off. This won't stop people using it, fixing it does that. It's like cops that want to mess around with the sh*thead little teen when there's plenty of crack, meth, and violence to go take care of. Nothing more than laziness and carelessness.
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22. November 2011 @ 14:19 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Originally posted by gnovak1:
Originally posted by plutonash:
I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them.
I totally agree. All cheaters should be banned period.
Yes +1
You guys are just promoting crappy game making and banning for IW. Switch topics to "Should Sony ban people for jailbreaking the PS3" and most of you would switch over to the other side and say "No". MW3 hackers annoy, not harm you. Jailbreaking PS3s annoy and potentially harm Sony.
This isn't true. Cheating, glitching, exploiting, hacking, whatever you want to call it, should get you banned. Jailbreaking without piracy is also good and does not hurt Sony. A lot of people in this thread have even admitted to not owning MW3! How can you complain against these bannings if you don't have the game? Seriously
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SomeBozo
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22. November 2011 @ 14:38 |
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How about a fair compromise...
Since these glitches will probably exists, since software is written by people and thus imperfect... Have two sets of servers running for people to choose which to play on. "Cheaters and like a-holes", "Honest players looking for a good game".
Might seem simple, but users could choose which servers to play on, if you cheat or use a glitch on the wrong server then you're license and copy are banned, even better by joining a given server, you are consenting to the agreement and would legally stand up.
Good compromise and everyone can play as desired.
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22. November 2011 @ 14:58 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
How about a fair compromise...
Since these glitches will probably exists, since software is written by people and thus imperfect... Have two sets of servers running for people to choose which to play on. "Cheaters and like a-holes", "Honest players looking for a good game".
Might seem simple, but users could choose which servers to play on, if you cheat or use a glitch on the wrong server then you're license and copy are banned, even better by joining a given server, you are consenting to the agreement and would legally stand up.
Good compromise and everyone can play as desired.
Too bad Activision is a bunch of a-holes that won't do that. Account suspension until a patch is released is what they should do.
I'll just keep playing COD4. Best COD game ever made. Yea, there's hacks but at least there's no knifing from 200 feet away.
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22. November 2011 @ 15:19 |
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Originally posted by buxtahuda:
Originally posted by xaznboitx:
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That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps?
I bet you're one of them
lol no. I don't even own the game yet, and I don't think I will thank you. Too buggy. Get stuck on everything, glitches left and right, only saving grace is Spec Ops Survival which I'm pretty sure is only so good because TreyArch helped with a bit of it.
I'll stick to all my zombies maps on Black Ops thanks, there was more marketing put into this latest release than there was effort on the actual game, IMO
And I understand people not liking it, but really, what game vulnerability do people not exploit? Quick/No-scoping is still *rampant. Why? Not because we've done anything. Because they haven't properly tested their product and they don't do anything to really change/innovate the games and their experiences in the first place.
Regardless of all this opinion, it's messed up people will lose their entire accounts (hell, reset their KD ratios or something) because IW just wanted to make as much money as possible and put this thing on the market ASAP. Nothing new, but I'd be pissed if I bought this game and that Elite service only to have my account banned for mucking about with a problem that's probably been there since pre-beta stages.
Fix the problem, don't ban the people making it obvious a fix is needed.
Originally posted by plutonash:
I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game.
And they're not invulnerable, just hard to pinpoint. I've seen my buddy kill two people chilling in both tanks outside the hangar in Outpost because he kept dying without seeing anyone; just shot the hell out of 'em.
*Don't know how that word got deleted...
I love how you don't own the game but still feel so confident in your opinion of it. Kudos!
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22. November 2011 @ 17:34 |
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The problem with people who are arguing that it's wrong for IW to ban glitchers is, I guarantee you these aren't just one time offenders. If you were to glitch once or twice, I guarantee you, you would not get a permaban. I'm more than confident in assuming that if you got banned from playing all together, you were whoring a glitch to up your experience, rank or just plain being a dick cause you think you're funny or cool. I don't care if the game is broken or if IW takes forever to release a patch. You're not supposed to cheat or glitch. It states very clearly in XBox Live's terms of service, SONY's terms of service and probably Activision's terms of service when you play on the PC. I don't care if you think IW is lazy. You know glitching could get you banned. So why do it and then whine when you get the boot? "I didn't know that going outside of the map where I'm invincible was wrong, I only did it for about 50 rounds and got 1,000 extra kills unfairly because people couldn't kill me". People are just so stupid. It's like touching a hot stove repeatedly and then wanting to sue the stove manufacturer cause you burned your hand.
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22. November 2011 @ 18:05 |
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I think its a steep punishment to ban people from online, but if you don't like hacks/glitches/mods etc....then why the hell would you play online. I think every game that is online has some sort of glitch/hack/mod. I don't agree with the bans and people need to lighten up it's just a game.
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22. November 2011 @ 19:02 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Originally posted by plutonash:
I like everyones logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasnt completely secure, and its really the their fault for not making it impossible?
What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someones killstreak.
Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them.
Theyre not stealing anything. Theyre taking advantage of a flaw which can be patched. Theyre not harming anyone, theyre only annoying people. Its Activisions job to patch these flaws.
You really cant compare breaking into a bank with cheating.
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22. November 2011 @ 19:16 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Originally posted by plutonash:
I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them.
They're not stealing anything. They're taking advantage of a flaw which can be patched. They're not harming anyone, they're only annoying people. It's Activisions job to patch these flaws.
You really can't compare breaking into a bank with cheating.
Wow. Wrong is wrong. Unfortunately guys like you have a serious personal exploit, or glitch... a lack of a conscience, and no sense of doing the right and moral thing. And you hide behind idiotic statements like, "Thats Infiniti Wards problem, they need to patch their game." Really..? Look the bottom line is this, all of you out there who believe no one should be banned for cheating lose anyway. How do I know? Cuz Infinity Ward has earned in excess of $900 Million in sales - so the masses keep buying. Infinity Ward has and is continuing to ban players for violating the rules of conduct regarding online multiplaying. They run the servers, they set the rules. It's really simple, just don't violate the rules of conduct. Play the game the way the developers intended, and quit trying to justify cheating and getting away with it. Sheesh!
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25. November 2011 @ 13:22 |
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Ok.. stealing from a bank and cheating on a MP game is different because no one is stealing from you... OK.. how about sppeding. It's flawed!! Why have a car than go 100+ and set limits fro 55-65..YOU know the limit and it's up to you to risk punishment to break that law. If you abide by it, you NEVER get punished. EVERY time you do break it you risk that punishment.
I'd reset all their game stats, suspend them for a period, then ban them from some variants or altogether.
It's not Activisions responsibility to PATCH anything. Unless the game serves a major health threath, they under no obligation to fix anything. If it was released bugged, you bought it bugged (as many people already say they KNEW it woulf be buggy before release), then you bought what they sold. Sitting on their asses is up to them. They've got your cash, you're still playing, and unless you know how to recode parameters and lines, then you've got no room to talk. I'd rather rewrite a new game then change ingame parameters (simply b/c every line you change effect millions of others, so you'rte constantly checking millions ands millions for every small change).
If no one likes the hacks, then just don't play. I'm sur eno one wil notice, but YES ban the nackers/glitchers and make it serious enought to catch attention...OH.. ban the gamertags, not the consoles.. easy to tyrade in a console and get back in the same day.. Bend over somone with a 100,000+ gamerscore, and they'll not be giving up all that progress to be back.
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25. November 2011 @ 13:44 |
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Originally posted by ajennice:
If no one likes the hacks, then just don't play.
The problem with your argument goes like this, if you don't like other's comment because they don't agree with you, then you shouldn't comment, if you don't like it, well don't read or join the site here. Sorry if this sounds harsh or i'm trying to be rude, i'm not. My point is people play the game to interact with others in a meaningful way. Just as much as your comments add value to the discussion, but your solution to the issue is not a workable solution.
My real problem with your point is those who play honest and by the rules, if they don't like it when other cheat, get over it they have as much freedom to play the game they want. Sorry, but you're not making it fair for all, and actually making it beneficial for only those who cheat and abuse the system.
Surely there is a better solution where those who bought the game and have a fair, honest, good game.
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25. November 2011 @ 16:18 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by ajennice:
If no one likes the hacks, then just don't play.
The problem with your argument goes like this, if you don't like other's comment because they don't agree with you, then you shouldn't comment, if you don't like it, well don't read or join the site here. Sorry if this sounds harsh or i'm trying to be rude, i'm not. My point is people play the game to interact with others in a meaningful way. Just as much as your comments add value to the discussion, but your solution to the issue is not a workable solution.
My real problem with your point is those who play honest and by the rules, if they don't like it when other cheat, get over it they have as much freedom to play the game they want. Sorry, but you're not making it fair for all, and actually making it beneficial for only those who cheat and abuse the system.
Surely there is a better solution where those who bought the game and have a fair, honest, good game.
I'm not implying that you should just say screw it and walk away. I'm saying since the first online MP game, there has been various exploits. When you buy a game 75% based on playing onlkine, you SHOULD expect exploits. Every game will have some holes in it which peopl will exploit to get advantages. I don;t play the game online due to these people. I don't thinnkI am missing much as every MP onine shooting game is basically the same.
I do not condone the cheaters, but if the games programmers are not going to patch the issues, then you either Do have to deal with it, decide not to play, or join the crowd.
I was pretty much saying since the CoD MP craze began there have been numerous issues wit the MP gameplay as far as hacks/cheat/glitches.. Every year people should expect more the same from that game title. The bugger is that we the consumers are partialy responsible for it. I mean they turned out a hole filled game and we lined up to buy it, they see issues and are not rushing to do anything and we're still playing, they're designing the nex tone.. and we'll still get in lines to get it. As long as the lobbies are full, the game is selling and the demand it MORE MORE MORE, then we're just empowering them to put out more hole filled games.
These bans/suspensions do not scare people though.. HAlO is 2 days then 2 weeks.. OOOHHH makes me not want to cheat or boost..I do not know what COD is but banningthe Gamertag woudl mean that player NOW has to create a new GT, pay for LIVE and is on watch(console ID#), but that is too much work (Sarcasm) for them to do as, they're more worried about getting paying players onto their game.
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9. December 2011 @ 06:49 |
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Originally posted by core2kid:
Take your theory and banning would be useless. On PS3 and PC, you can create another free username and go right back online. 360 you have to pay for Live again on the new username.
Hmm, not quite.
PC is Steam based, VAC bans the the mp of the game for that SteamID. You would have to buy a new copy of the game and put it onto a new SteamID if your original was banned.
PS3 is a Hardware ban (I think) so you would have to buy/play on a different PS3.
360 is hardware or Live ban. So what you say is true for a Live ban...else you would need a different XBox for a hardware ban
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9. December 2011 @ 15:12 |
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Originally posted by L-Burna:
I think its a steep punishment to ban people from online, but if you don't like hacks/glitches/mods etc....then why the hell would you play online. I think every game that is online has some sort of glitch/hack/mod. I don't agree with the bans and people need to lighten up it's just a game.
If they get banned it's no big deal! It's just a game right? Banned people should "Lighted up", right?
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Originally posted by buxtahuda:
That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps?
I have no problem with people using glitches that are inadvertently left in the game by the programmers. What I take issue with are the god forsaken morons who can't play the game without an aimbot that draws the sights of their guns directly to the head of an opponent who is across the map with three walls between him and the chap shooting at him. Those are the fools that need to be banned because they haven't exploited a programming glitch they have created new programming code that allows them to kill anybody in the game at will. Take for instance the video at the link below.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmc6o6...load_videogames
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simple rules we use to stand by when playing games.if its in the game its not cheating.hacking or modifying the game is cheating using an exploit in a game isnt cheating.if i walked in a bank and asked for everyone account details and they gave it to me thats not hacking the bank.if i illegally gained access to everyones bank details that is hacking the bank.
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