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120 companies and groups come out in favor of SOPA
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article published on 23 December, 2011
The judiciary committee and its chairman Lamar Smith have revealed the 120 formal supporters of SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act), the draconian bill that will mark the end of free Internet, putting the U.S. in the illustrious group that includes North Korea, Iran and China.
SOPA was proposed earlier this year. SOPA is the first of two bills being considered by Congress. The second is E-PARASITE/Pr... [ read the full article ]
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23. December 2011 @ 12:33 |
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Once again:
Please, everyone, help keep America's Internet free and open, and not in the hands of politicians and dying media companies: http://americancensorship.org/
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Morreale
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23. December 2011 @ 13:04 |
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The United State's government is so backwards its ridiculous. I REALLY hope Canada does not follow suit with this crap. Otherwise I'm moving away once I finish school...
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POGK
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23. December 2011 @ 13:26 |
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The first thing I notice glancing at these lists are that the Tech based companies are against it, and the physical product retail organizations are against. The biggest questions that come to mind is why do real estate or drug compnies GAF?
On a side note, I can see why Beach Body would be concerned and for it as their products can be found on any torrent site.
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23. December 2011 @ 17:14 |
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Freedom of speech is still freedom of speech.
Even though it is illegal as hell to yell Fire in a crowded theater, you are still allowed to yell it at the top of your lungs if you so decide. The choice still remains yours.
This SOPA crap, is not our choice folks. I didn't fight for this. I sure as hell didn't vote for this.
These idiots act as though my computer is a firearm. It's not. What site I may or may not visit has no inclination as to whether or not a violent action will or not occur or a legal or illegal action has been made. That decision is still left up to "ME".
Unlike saying 'fire' in the crowded theater, believe it or not, I can ensue a riot in a theater without ever having to say the word. Banning web sites may be the first step to being just as bad as burning books. Mark my words.
That's what censorship does. That's what SOPA & the MPAA/RIAA wants and it starts with control. They already have the government's ear folks.
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23. December 2011 @ 18:24 |
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"rogue foreign sites"=TPB
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EzCeazy
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23. December 2011 @ 19:11 |
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Even if it passes, it might back fire on em. Lets see what happens
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24. December 2011 @ 02:06 |
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SOPA has just amount of a chance to stop piracy as the world is going to end in December 2012.
This is just an excuse for the US goverment to enforce control over the American people. The founding fathers of the United States of America would be appauled at what our government has become.
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beanos66
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24. December 2011 @ 08:34 |
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Building and Construction Trades Department ???
Don't tell me people have been downloading pirate houses :)
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24. December 2011 @ 18:35 |
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Originally posted by POGK:
The biggest questions that come to mind is why do real estate or drug compnies GAF?
As far as the drug companies go, you have to understand that part of this bill is about keeping Canadian pharmacies from selling drugs online to US customers cheaper than they could get them in the US.
The real estate thing is hard to tell, but it could very well just be a question of some congress critter soliciting them for support and getting it without anyone looking at the bill.
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25. December 2011 @ 13:56 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
"rogue foreign sites"=TPB
In fact it's not nearly that simple. First off, there is no actual definition of "dedicated to intellectual property infringement" given in SOPA (or PIPA for that matter). That's not a coincidence. It's the same language used by the entertainment industry in lawsuits against sites like YouTube. By failing to define it, the standard is lowered to "whatever we can convince a judge to buy." From the entertainment industry's POV any site that uses their IP in a way that doesn't make them money, particularly if it forces them to start offering content in a new way to compete, is a rogue site. To their way of thinking, any tactic to take such a site down is legitimate, even if they haven't actually done anything illegal.
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25. December 2011 @ 14:25 |
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Originally posted by vurbal:
Originally posted by palwill:
"rogue foreign sites"=TPB
In fact it's not nearly that simple. First off, there is no actual definition of "dedicated to intellectual property infringement" given in SOPA (or PIPA for that matter). That's not a coincidence. It's the same language used by the entertainment industry in lawsuits against sites like YouTube. By failing to define it, the standard is lowered to "whatever we can convince a judge to buy." From the entertainment industry's POV any site that uses their IP in a way that doesn't make them money, particularly if it forces them to start offering content in a new way to compete, is a rogue site. To their way of thinking, any tactic to take such a site down is legitimate, even if they haven't actually done anything illegal.
thank you for educating me. what the hell do they think they are doing? if this passes i see dark times ahead.
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25. December 2011 @ 14:45 |
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Originally posted by palwill:
Originally posted by vurbal:
Originally posted by palwill:
"rogue foreign sites"=TPB
In fact it's not nearly that simple. First off, there is no actual definition of "dedicated to intellectual property infringement" given in SOPA (or PIPA for that matter). That's not a coincidence. It's the same language used by the entertainment industry in lawsuits against sites like YouTube. By failing to define it, the standard is lowered to "whatever we can convince a judge to buy." From the entertainment industry's POV any site that uses their IP in a way that doesn't make them money, particularly if it forces them to start offering content in a new way to compete, is a rogue site. To their way of thinking, any tactic to take such a site down is legitimate, even if they haven't actually done anything illegal.
thank you for educating me. what the hell do they think they are doing? if this passes i see dark times ahead.
This is exactly why so many individuals and organizations, including many who don't agree on much of anything, are opposed to these bills.
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27. December 2011 @ 13:05 |
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People need to boycot members of associations, clients of the law firms and the comapnies supporting this insane idea. Worked for Godaddy...
Congress passes what they are paid to pass. Paid by companies, lawyers and associations, which is illegal, but campaign contributions are "legal" but payment to do something that is their job is illegal. The system is broken, and only a constitutional amendment can fix it...
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27. December 2011 @ 15:06 |
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Originally posted by FreddyF:
Congress passes what they are paid to pass. Paid by companies, lawyers and associations, which is illegal, but campaign contributions are "legal" but payment to do something that is their job is illegal. The system is broken, and only a constitutional amendment can fix it...
Laws & amendments mean little to those who feel they are above such... More so when they actually have the means to buy their way out of the very thing they judicially voted for.
We have laws & papers saying what is/isn't acceptable behavior, yet everyone physically witnesses someone breaking the rules in some varying degree or another on virtually a daily basis.
If we can't make an example out of someone (primarily these twerps) from which to learn from (sans victim of circumstance or trying to feed a family) then the only solution is to literally remove those individuals from any & all exposure of influence of their cancerous infection in hopes of putting a stop to the bulk of this behavior. I.e., kill off the breeding behavior. A reversal of the 'strongest surviving' if you will.
They're obviously no longer working toward a common good & decimating a larger number of folks who are actually working toward a richer environment. Amoral as the logic may seem, our society has allowed it to rotate to this point. How else do you get rid of a wart than to dig its oily root?
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27. December 2011 @ 22:51 |
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once sopa passes the only logical thing to do would be to go to a local library and upload pirated content on all the websites that supported it and then bring it to the publics attention when the websites dont get shut down.
i live in australia and it seems stupid to me that america's government can throw millions of $$$ around getting a bill passed but they are lacking in health care and have so many homeless and poor people.
btw why call it sopa they should just call it american dictating internet bill or (adib).
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29. December 2011 @ 11:17 |
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So let's stop buying or renting theses dvd's and cd's and go the the public library and rip them for our own use. They're the biggest sharer in the world.
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29. December 2011 @ 13:05 |
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SOPA?... jaja is a word in spanish that means soup.,ridiculous name.
Is this happens the internet is dead for me
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29. December 2011 @ 13:31 |
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Originally posted by FreddyF:
People need to boycot members of associations, clients of the law firms and the comapnies supporting this insane idea. Worked for Godaddy...
Congress passes what they are paid to pass. Paid by companies, lawyers and associations, which is illegal, but campaign contributions are "legal" but payment to do something that is their job is illegal. The system is broken, and only a constitutional amendment can fix it...
a friend pointed out to me the other day, i'm supprized i didn't realize it myself, america isn't a country, it is a company for the rich for the rich to make them richer while walking all over america and americans rights.
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29. December 2011 @ 21:04 |
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Originally posted by ximwoem:
Originally posted by FreddyF:
People need to boycot members of associations, clients of the law firms and the comapnies supporting this insane idea. Worked for Godaddy...
Congress passes what they are paid to pass. Paid by companies, lawyers and associations, which is illegal, but campaign contributions are "legal" but payment to do something that is their job is illegal. The system is broken, and only a constitutional amendment can fix it...
a friend pointed out to me the other day, i'm supprized i didn't realize it myself, america isn't a country, it is a company for the rich for the rich to make them richer while walking all over america and americans rights.
That is true of most countries or better yet of any power structure, power corrupts absolutely (loosely stated).
An amendment wouldn't help either as they already ignore/violate so many constraints formed in amendments it isn't funny.
Why are they going after Barry Bonds for lying to the oversight comity when Bill Clinton purger-ed himself 4 times to a Supreme Court and they hardly slapped his hands. Sure he was impeached but that didn't change anything he still kept his job and did NO JAIL TIME.
Joseph Wrangle violated 10 counts of the tax code, code he is in charge of forming, and they did nothing to him. You or I would be in jail and heavily penalized if we did what he did and we don't make the rules. Plus the lying piece of shat stated he didn't know of his violations which would make him incompetent, he should be fired just for that alone.
There are too many other examples (infractions) to list all but this just shows the deep do-do we are in, and things aren't looking up for the future either.
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29. December 2011 @ 22:20 |
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SOPA only gives accused websites 5 days to file an appeal before they get shut down. If a user posts pirated material in the comments or forum section, the entire site can be shut down for good.
So use it against them: post an infringing link on the forum site of, for example EMI music (maybe even under the guise of informing them of illegal material), then inform SOPA directly of the infringing link. Then EMI have 5 days to file the appeal before being shut down permanently.
If enough people do this, EMI will not have the time to file all the appeals before the backlog gets the better of them. Then they either get shut down or SOPA gets amended. If amended, rinse an repeat.
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30. December 2011 @ 03:13 |
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All Crimes and inhumanities comes from UK. The Devil starts first and then impose it on his Child Mr USA. many sites are being blocked in UK. Don't even think about that your democratic leaders are going to do anything for you. they are not elected by you, they are elected by big corporations and whatever they say our politicians do. the only thing that we can do is fight back, by not using their products. hey I will cancel my internet for start. stop going to theater, or any places that these big ass PIG MFs have hands on. Gas is expensive, don't drive car for a while. imagine if 1000,000, of us do that for few months. they will kiss our asses for the rest of century. But are we United? or just bunch of you know what?
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30. December 2011 @ 05:09 |
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I would suggest that all crimes and inhumanities come from religion and/or monetary wealth.
But of course, outlawing religion on a global scale is far less profitable then selling guns, tanks and attack helicopters (X-Box avatar anyone?), and rebuilding the countries we impose our iron fisted, God fearing will onto.
*shakes fist defiantly* I've still got my own teeth you know!
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30. December 2011 @ 12:41 |
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Originally posted by xzone:
All Crimes and inhumanities comes from UK. The Devil starts first and then impose it on his Child Mr USA. many sites are being blocked in UK. Dont even think about that your democratic leaders are going to do anything for you. they are not elected by you, they are elected by big corporations and whatever they say our politicians do. the only thing that we can do is fight back, by not using their products. hey I will cancel my internet for start. stop going to theater, or any places that these big ass PIG MFs have hands on. Gas is expensive, dont drive car for a while. imagine if 1000,000, of us do that for few months. they will kiss our asses for the rest of century. But are we United? or just bunch of you know what?
Well put...everybody talks but when it realy comes time to act, we all tuck our tails between our legs and live with what all the big companies (and big company bought goverment officials)tell us to do. We all unite for a pointless "flashmob" but when it comes to the important stuff, we all have excuses not to be there.
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30. December 2011 @ 13:29 |
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Originally posted by Hamatime:
We all unite for a pointless "flashmob" but when it comes to the important stuff, we all have excuses not to be there.
Interestingly stated... we can seem to organize a few hundred people for little or no compensation for hours on end for their time to shake their ass for a little notoriety, but can't get them to do shite for their own benefit.
Myself, I joined the military for at least one of my many reasons (as well as I am sure some of the other folks in here did as well), figuring that 'some' good would come of it. But one voice in that mess is not the solution. Hind sight, as they say, is 20/20.
Creative thought, listening to the ideas that have already been tried & known to have failed; then throwing those out, then getting the multitudes of couch humping assholes out of their prozaic funks & into a 'take back control of their life' mentality would be a nice start.
I don't know, jump starting whole neighborhoods with mandatory jalapeno enemas might be a good start?
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