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Windows 7 market share closing in on XP
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article published on 4 January, 2012
According to the latest Net Applications data, Windows 7 is creeping up on its decade-old brother Windows XP in market share.
As of January 1st, Windows XP had 46.52 percent share, down from over 57 percent at the beginning of the year. Windows 7 jumped to 36.99 percent share, up from 24 percent at the start of the year.
Vista, the "in-between" OS that was mostly criticized by consumers, ... [ read the full article ]
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soupy51
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6. January 2012 @ 23:09 |
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Thanks for the info but if I have no problems, share everything I need to share, run all the software I need to run, have never had a virus or been hacked, hardware works with what I do. 6 networked computers running at any given time with no issues. Why do I need it again?
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6. January 2012 @ 23:17 |
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its going to be quite some time before software manufacturers phase out xp support.not when you still see 98 supported.
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llongtheD
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6. January 2012 @ 23:27 |
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Originally posted by soupy51:
Thanks for the info but if I have no problems, share everything I need to share, run all the software I need to run, have never had a virus or been hacked, hardware works with what I do. 6 networked computers running at any given time with no issues. Why do I need it again?
Well you probably don't need it then, and any amount of convincing probably would be a waste of time anyway. If you still want to use a Windows OS, you might want to at least plan on learning how to use a newer version before 2014 when Microsoft drops support for it. I tested Vista on my system and hated it, Windows 7 is superior to both xp and vista IMO. I use win7 x64 and linux.
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6. January 2012 @ 23:51 |
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Originally posted by aldan:
its going to be quite some time before software manufacturers phase out xp support.not when you still see 98 supported.
It has already begun to happen. For example some software titles are going 64bit only. Look at Adobe CS5.. You need 64bit Vista or Win 7 to run Premiere and After Effects. This trend is increasing as there are other softwares that will not run on XP too.
As far as soupy goes I suspect he will say anything to cut Windows 7 down. I mean I never said you couldn't do some of the things Windows 7 does in Windows XP... It is just easier to do and especially for the typical computer user. I mean who would want an OS that can better manage itself, make it easier for it's users to work and keep their data safe with new built in features like enhanced back up options, or simple GUI making it easier to find the programs and files on your somputer and keep them organized and shared by the type they are with a couple clicks. Why would anybody want that?
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7. January 2012 @ 06:35 |
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Originally posted by soupy51:
Thanks for the info but if I have no problems, share everything I need to share, run all the software I need to run, have never had a virus or been hacked, hardware works with what I do. 6 networked computers running at any given time with no issues. Why do I need it again?
If you are using a bunch of outdated old rigs then you don't need Windows 7...but then you don't need XP either...those should run just as well (probably better) on Windows 2000, or better yet, Linux. What do you do with 6 computers when none of them can do CAD, games, or video? If you give me a good idea I might build about a dozen systems from the old parts in my attic...right now the closest thing to a use I can think of is as a dedicated PIC flashing machine (running Linux, not windows). Well, that and recycling the bits off the boards for projects as needed (I've already removed the timing crystals, connectors, headers, heatsinks, and caps from everything socket 7 and below).
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soupy51
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7. January 2012 @ 07:55 |
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This will be my final reply so all of you can move on to more important things. My statement was made to get responses to prove my point. 90% or more of the users in the world today don't use or own Adobe CS5, Premiere, After Effects or Light Room and aren't running a design business so don't run AutoCAD or have a need for it. I personally use Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements for my photo and video work and am quite happy. When I look at bobiroc's system it is obvious he has uses WAY beyond what the millions of average home users would ever have. I mean how many families with a computer have a need for a 300GB Raptor? My 500GB 7200RPM drive captures video just fine with no dropped frames so I need better hardware and OS why? Don't answer that because I don't.
bobiroc, just so you know I do run Windows 7 on 2 brand new high end laptops but basically because that is what is on ALL new machines. It is fine and there are some nice features and some inclusions that make me wonder what Microsoft code writers smoke during their break. Shortly the OS of choice will change to Windows 8 and then 9 and then Windows X I suspect. When you buy new you have no choice and either get used to your rammed down your throat OS or spend a lifetime complaining (find me a happy Vista user). But unless your machine won't run at all and you NEED something new this whole upgrade to stay cutting edge is, IN MY OPINION, an ego thing and a waste of money many people don't have and don't need to spend. I'm not upgrading to keep AMD, Intel or Microsoft in business because there are already plenty of people doing that for them.
Many of the comments here prove everything that is wrong with society today. Marketing people prey on the weak and keep corporations in business by making people THINK they have to be faster, bigger and newer. We have become a disposable society because nobody is ever happy with what they have. Many have bells and whistles they never use but will gladly sing their praises and point out the glitz and glitter because they don't want to seem silly for owning them just to be "up to date and cool".
I've been doing this for over 25 years and still have an OLD machine with DOS on it. Why? Because it is fun to see how far the computer world has come and how we used to have to be SMART to own and use a computer. Now all you need is money (less than way back when) because the OS makes it easy. That is a good thing but in my own stubborn mind only up to a point.
So thanks for all your input and please understand, I'm not against progress, just those not filling my wallet telling me it's time to waste my money once again on an UPGRADE!!
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7. January 2012 @ 11:55 |
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my sentiments exactly.nuff said.
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7. January 2012 @ 23:52 |
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I am happily running an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ [socket 939] with XP Pro sp3,1024MB DDR PC3200 SLI 8800GS Alpha Dog Edition GPUs.
When XP is no longer supported, clamwin is a useful anti-virus program.
I also have another computer with win7 installed,used for Folding@home project/client though I have to run the clients minimized as win7 does not allow an easy route to add as a service which XP does.
my 2¢
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llongtheD
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8. January 2012 @ 04:06 |
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Originally posted by soupy51:
This will be my final reply so all of you can move on to more important things. My statement was made to get responses to prove my point. 90% or more of the users in the world today don't use or own Adobe CS5, Premiere, After Effects or Light Room and aren't running a design business so don't run AutoCAD or have a need for it. I personally use Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements for my photo and video work and am quite happy. When I look at bobiroc's system it is obvious he has uses WAY beyond what the millions of average home users would ever have. I mean how many families with a computer have a need for a 300GB Raptor? My 500GB 7200RPM drive captures video just fine with no dropped frames so I need better hardware and OS why? Don't answer that because I don't.
bobiroc, just so you know I do run Windows 7 on 2 brand new high end laptops but basically because that is what is on ALL new machines. It is fine and there are some nice features and some inclusions that make me wonder what Microsoft code writers smoke during their break. Shortly the OS of choice will change to Windows 8 and then 9 and then Windows X I suspect. When you buy new you have no choice and either get used to your rammed down your throat OS or spend a lifetime complaining (find me a happy Vista user). But unless your machine won't run at all and you NEED something new this whole upgrade to stay cutting edge is, IN MY OPINION, an ego thing and a waste of money many people don't have and don't need to spend. I'm not upgrading to keep AMD, Intel or Microsoft in business because there are already plenty of people doing that for them.
Many of the comments here prove everything that is wrong with society today. Marketing people prey on the weak and keep corporations in business by making people THINK they have to be faster, bigger and newer. We have become a disposable society because nobody is ever happy with what they have. Many have bells and whistles they never use but will gladly sing their praises and point out the glitz and glitter because they don't want to seem silly for owning them just to be "up to date and cool".
I've been doing this for over 25 years and still have an OLD machine with DOS on it. Why? Because it is fun to see how far the computer world has come and how we used to have to be SMART to own and use a computer. Now all you need is money (less than way back when) because the OS makes it easy. That is a good thing but in my own stubborn mind only up to a point.
So thanks for all your input and please understand, I'm not against progress, just those not filling my wallet telling me it's time to waste my money once again on an UPGRADE!!
Let me get this straight soupy, you have an old machine running DOS because it makes you feel smart, you have four networked computers running XP at any given time, two high end laptops running windows 7, and your playing the devils advocate. I can see your new to these forums, but you need to wake up and smell what your shoveling. The bullsh*t meter just got maxed out with your last post.
If your fish seems sick, put it back in the water.
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8. January 2012 @ 05:06 |
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well you would of busted the bullshit meter but for the fact that you never said anything.
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soupy51
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8. January 2012 @ 09:18 |
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To llongtheD AKA donaalfian: I suggest you learn to read and comprehend. You obviously are one of the people I mention and haven't been around long enough to see what has happened in this multi-billion dollar industry. I can take criticism quite well especially when I look at the source and the manner which it is applied.
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llongtheD
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8. January 2012 @ 12:52 |
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Originally posted by soupy51:
To llongtheD AKA donaalfian: I suggest you learn to read and comprehend. You obviously are one of the people I mention and haven't been around long enough to see what has happened in this multi-billion dollar industry. I can take criticism quite well especially when I look at the source and the manner which it is applied.
First of all it's obvious I offended you and for that I apologize.
However, I did read your posts, maybe you need to re-read them. You spent all this time making the case that few really NEED to upgrade because it was just a marketing scheme, meanwhile your running win7 on two "high end" Toshiba laptops. Sounds like "the man" got you to upgrade anyway, lol.
Well I better get, just saw an advertisement for some high end laptops and it's got me under a spell. I think I'll get two.j/k
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soupy51
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8. January 2012 @ 14:26 |
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llongtheD: If you are as truly intelligent as you THINK you are, you probably realize that if anyone purchases a new laptop/desktop they are going to get Windows 7 as the OS with no option. If you don't understand that sometimes people NEED a new laptop (which I did) and I did state that in my long post that you seem to dislike so much, then I can only assume your IQ matches the current Windows version number. "the man" didn't get me to upgrade, a dead motherboard did and it is almost cheaper to buy new laptop than to find the proper motherboard for a dead one. But I didn't need to tell you that because you know EVERYTHING!
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llongtheD
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8. January 2012 @ 14:41 |
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Originally posted by soupy51:
llongtheD: If you are as truly intelligent as you THINK you are,you probably realize that if anyone purchases a new laptop/desktop they are going to get Windows 7 as the OS with no option. If you don't understand that sometimes people NEED a new laptop (which I did) and I did state that in my long post that you seem to dislike so much, then I can only assume your IQ matches the current Windows version number. "the man" didn't get me to upgrade, a dead motherboard did and it is almost cheaper to buy new laptop than to find the proper motherboard for a dead one. But I didn't need to tell you that because you know EVERYTHING!
Well I certainly didn't mean to get you all riled up soupy. Yes I do know that just about any new computer you buy now is going to have win7 on it. And yes it's probably cheaper to buy a new laptop than to replace the motherboard, so why not get two while your at it. If you like xp, great use it on your new laptops since they came with both versions. I guess I thought your argument that upgrading to win7 was just a marketing scheme, and most who did were the victims of clever marketing sounded a little off. I have a newer computer myself and for me windows 7 suits my purposes better.
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soupy51
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8. January 2012 @ 14:56 |
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llongtheD: One laptop for me and one for my wife because she uses software that she has to use to run an embroidery machine and XP is the last OS it works on. I swap out her drive when we go away and she runs Windows 7 at that point. Mine runs Windows 7 since I need to know it for my customers sake.
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
It is a lot more than personal preference...
Win2K = Doesn't work with more than 4GB total ram.
XP86 = Same problem as Win2K
XP64 = Doesn't have drivers for new parts.
Vista86/64 = Unstable and slow
Win7x86 = Same problem as XP86
Win7x64 = The only option for a modern system that Microsoft offers.
Sure, there are still the various *nix OS's (including OSX), but those don't play games and the software support is rather lacking in many fields.
BTW...you can set the taskbar so it is identical to the old XP taskbar...and you improve performance in the process.
Windows X86 OSes based on the NT Kernal starting with 2000 can support more than 3.25GB of ram you just need hardware that supports Physical Address Extension (nearly every x86-64 Supports PAE) and a Patch file to remove the PAE Breaking code deliberately put into place by MS due to licensing concerns.
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10. January 2012 @ 05:33 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
It is a lot more than personal preference...
Win2K = Doesn't work with more than 4GB total ram.
XP86 = Same problem as Win2K
XP64 = Doesn't have drivers for new parts.
Vista86/64 = Unstable and slow
Win7x86 = Same problem as XP86
Win7x64 = The only option for a modern system that Microsoft offers.
Sure, there are still the various *nix OS's (including OSX), but those don't play games and the software support is rather lacking in many fields.
BTW...you can set the taskbar so it is identical to the old XP taskbar...and you improve performance in the process.
Windows X86 OSes based on the NT Kernal starting with 2000 can support more than 3.25GB of ram you just need hardware that supports Physical Address Extension (nearly every x86-64 Supports PAE) and a Patch file to remove the PAE Breaking code deliberately put into place by MS due to licensing concerns.
The code is also there because of the massive driver conflicts that are caused by turning it on.
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