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Reviewing Bitcasa, the infinite cloud storage solution
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article published on 15 January, 2012
What is Bitcasa?
Bitcasa is a start-up begun by former execs at Mastercard, VeriSign and Mozy and is the latest entrant to the cloud storage market.
What makes Bitcasa different is that the service offers you truly infinite storage, all for just $10 per month. In fact, when you add your first folder, you are told that you have over 500TB of remaining free space, and the start-up says ... [ read the full article ]
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snardos
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15. January 2012 @ 22:50 |
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I wonder how long it takes someone to figure out how to use this for less than legal uses. Someone uploads a video to the cloud and gives out access to the folder.
Or maybe you can make a file that looks identical to the video that has been uploaded, but is actually only a small file. When you "upload" it to your folder and the system sees it is identical to one already in the system, it gives you access to it without actually uploading anything. Then you can download it at high speed using the bitcasa servers.
I have no idea if that is actually possible, just something I thought of when I read the article.
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16. January 2012 @ 00:15 |
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Originally posted by snardos:
I wonder how long it takes someone to figure out how to use this for less than legal uses. Someone uploads a video to the cloud and gives out access to the folder.
Or maybe you can make a file that looks identical to the video that has been uploaded, but is actually only a small file. When you "upload" it to your folder and the system sees it is identical to one already in the system, it gives you access to it without actually uploading anything. Then you can download it at high speed using the bitcasa servers.
I have no idea if that is actually possible, just something I thought of when I read the article.
Should that happen, be pretty sweet to access the files and play them via xbox 3 or ps4.... only in our wildest dreams right now I guess.
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16. January 2012 @ 00:49 |
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make a file that looks identical to the video that has been uploaded, but is actually only a small file...
Ammm... and what are you saying? Clone something that is not a clone, but looks like a clone that is not an original but makes you think it's a clone?
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Tazer247
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16. January 2012 @ 01:01 |
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I'd like to know more about their de-duplication techniques but I guess that's a trade secret.
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16. January 2012 @ 02:33 |
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Bitcasa says every upload is encrypted and protected on the server side, meaning no one but you can ever access it, including employees of the company or "snooping" media companies.
If it's encrypted server side then Bitcasa (and any employee with sufficient access to their servers) most certainly can access the files' contents. In fact, I'm confident that their de-duplication techniques would be useless if they couldn't access the true contents of the files to determine which ones were identical.
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16. January 2012 @ 11:36 |
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Seems to me someone of self proclaimed authority (MPAA/RIAA or the likes) is going to raise hell & as always, claim it revolves around the likes of piracy. I mean, I have to admit, even the mush in my head started to think up the ways it could work & equally, how the alphabet Nazis were going to piss & moan about tying Bitcasa's hands of operation.
I love their idea of a non duplication environment, but it's like I've ranted before; do you 'really' want to trust someone with all your data offsite? Especially these folks, where apparently 'one copy will do'. Mighty bold when one circuit breaker is all it takes.
It's kinda like the old boy who's had one too many colonoscopies... "I'm just not feeling it."
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16. January 2012 @ 16:23 |
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Legally, how is this different than Megaupload.com ?
The MPAA is all over Megaupload and the other file sharing sites.
Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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dsf74
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16. January 2012 @ 16:50 |
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Binfer is a great option to send large files directly from person to person, without uploading to a server. You can send hundreds of files of any size with a simple drag and drop. Binfer will manage the transfers with auto resumes, encryption, notifications etc.
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Bozobub
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17. January 2012 @ 10:53 |
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This service avoids the legal issues Megaupload has encountered by making files available *only* to the systems that uploaded them originally. But otherwise, I agree with all the rest of the potential issues that have been raised here.
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hearme0
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17. January 2012 @ 12:22 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Legally, how is this different than Megaupload.com ?
The MPAA is all over Megaupload and the other file sharing sites.
Ummm.............because Megaupload.com is a commercially available site with one sole purpose, housing data that is readily available to ANYONE with given access. Good gracious! I can't believe you need this clarified.
This site is for you PERSONAL storage and not intended for mass distribution.
As for online backup pricing....10 bucks ain't bad but bring that down to 2.99/month and I'll prepay 3 years in advance.
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17. January 2012 @ 12:24 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Legally, how is this different than Megaupload.com ?
The MPAA is all over Megaupload and the other file sharing sites.
I suppose it's faster due to it's "no copy" algorithm & then there's the "no size limit" thing... Then you have to pay by the month and only one person at a time can have access to 'folder' as apposed to bagillions of folks. But now I'm just blathering...
Originally posted by hearme0: Ummm.............Good gracious! I can't believe you need this clarified.
Be nice... Even I repeated the information, but realized it may not have been what he wanted. the moderator may have additional information that isn't in the article, give it some time.
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17. January 2012 @ 13:53 |
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Well, I'm just thinking outside of the box...
In function the two will be similar.
Megaupload allows you to upload any file so that it is available on the net.
Bitcasa will be doing the same thing.
If I upload my library of MKV video files and then publish the folder, isn't that pretty much the same effect?
How would they prevent me from making my folder available?
I'm just saying that the MPAA is going to have many of the same issues with this service as it does with Megaupload.
Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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17. January 2012 @ 14:10 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
I'm just saying that the MPAA is going to have many of the same issues with this service as it does with Megaupload.
I would say that 'could' be the case if you gave 'them' access. I'm assuming (yeah, yeah) you'll have to give folks individual access to your folder. That in its own right would be a hassle to no end, which would obviously curtail (to some extent) some of the piracy issues.
Otherwise, how would any of the alphabet Nazi's know what you have in your respective libraries unless Bitcasa broke their silence/security protocol & told them. Or, if there is some kind of fine print stating that you had some kind of heavy traffic in/out of the account meriting a breach of protocol, then there would be trouble.
Just saying.
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delerium01
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28. January 2012 @ 06:34 |
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What I think some of you fail to realize is that giving others access to the items you upload to your BitCasa account would also give them access to any account/payment info you enter. Along with any personal files you may choose to store there.
On the other hand.. this would be an interesting way to "hide" illegally downloaded items.
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Gnawnivek
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30. January 2012 @ 12:44 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Well, I'm just thinking outside of the box...
In function the two will be similar.
Megaupload allows you to upload any file so that it is available on the net.
Bitcasa will be doing the same thing.
If I upload my library of MKV video files and then publish the folder, isn't that pretty much the same effect?
How would they prevent me from making my folder available?
I'm just saying that the MPAA is going to have many of the same issues with this service as it does with Megaupload.
Of course it's different... In the case of Megupload, they arrest the employees. In the case you described, they (the government) will arrest you :P
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secure
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10. August 2012 @ 15:54 |
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Originally posted by nonoitall:
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Bitcasa says every upload is encrypted and protected on the server side, meaning no one but you can ever access it, including employees of the company or "snooping" media companies.
If it's encrypted server side then Bitcasa (and any employee with sufficient access to their servers) most certainly can access the files' contents. In fact, I'm confident that their de-duplication techniques would be useless if they couldn't access the true contents of the files to determine which ones were identical.
Actually the files are encrypted on theOriginally posted by nonoitall:
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Bitcasa says every upload is encrypted and protected on the server side, meaning no one but you can ever access it, including employees of the company or "snooping" media companies.
If it's encrypted server side then Bitcasa (and any employee with sufficient access to their servers) most certainly can access the files' contents. In fact, I'm confident that their de-duplication techniques would be useless if they couldn't access the true contents of the files to determine which ones were identical.
According to the Bitcasa website encryption is client side. How can de-duplication occur on encrypted files? How are encrypted contents recognized?
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joejoe2
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11. October 2012 @ 15:40 |
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Originally posted by secure:
According to the Bitcasa website encryption is client side. How can de-duplication occur on encrypted files? How are encrypted contents recognized?
The file itself is used as the key for the encryption so two users will generate the same encrypted file if the files are exactly the same.
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