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European Court of Justice to examine ACTA

article published on 22 February, 2012

ECJ to examine whether ACTA conflicts with fundamental rights in the European Union. European Commissioner for Trade, Karel De Gucht, announced on Wednesday that the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) has been referred to the European Court of Justice (ECJ). The European Commission has already passed ACTA and the European Council adopted ACTA unanimously in December. The trade ... [ read the full article ]

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22. February 2012 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Misinformation or Rumor? Typical comment from an asshole who would sell out his own freedom & the freedom of his countrymen in the hopes of saving his own ass. Pure act of cowardice, no doubt about it.

For an individual who made it a point to stand on people's universal right to vote, he certainly doesn't seem to share the sentiments here. Karel De Gucht is nothing more than America's Chris Dodd, a paid advocate by big business to protect their assets at whatever the costs. He's just collecting a paycheck.

I see this as nothing different here but a change geographic local.

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22. February 2012 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well it's just comforting to see the U.S. leading the way on this one. I guess if we call a restrictive law a treaty, and sign it outside the country, it makes everything alright. Democracy at its finest.

If your fish seems sick, put it back in the water.
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23. February 2012 @ 03:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by llongtheD:
Well it's just comforting to see the U.S. leading the way on this one. I guess if we call a restrictive law a treaty, and sign it outside the country, it makes everything alright. Democracy at its finest.
It's not laws though, it's a treaty 2 different things.

A treaty doesn't over rule the local laws.

But to have a free trade agreement with the USA you need to also sign up to this agreement as well, it allows US companies the ability to protect their products.

What you probably don't know the USA probably have to sign the same thing or another treaty from the Eu or any other country so it works both ways.

Most European countries have a set limit on the amount of US made movies that can be released in their countries some have a limit of less than 30 movies can be released so that country will only have the biggest blockbusters and nothing else, that's not just releases in movies that also DVDs etc.

A lot of the US movie companies don't like these laws and would like these countries to get rid of them.

ACTA won't get rid of those laws though.


It would seem to me that many US people don't understand what ACTA actually is and assume it's the exact same thing as PIPA etc which again are different laws but only for the US market.
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24. February 2012 @ 06:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xtago:
Originally posted by llongtheD:
Well it's just comforting to see the U.S. leading the way on this one. I guess if we call a restrictive law a treaty, and sign it outside the country, it makes everything alright. Democracy at its finest.
It's not laws though, it's a treaty 2 different things.

A treaty doesn't over rule the local laws.

But to have a free trade agreement with the USA you need to also sign up to this agreement as well, it allows US companies the ability to protect their products.

What you probably don't know the USA probably have to sign the same thing or another treaty from the Eu or any other country so it works both ways.

Most European countries have a set limit on the amount of US made movies that can be released in their countries some have a limit of less than 30 movies can be released so that country will only have the biggest blockbusters and nothing else, that's not just releases in movies that also DVDs etc.

A lot of the US movie companies don't like these laws and would like these countries to get rid of them.

ACTA won't get rid of those laws though.


It would seem to me that many US people don't understand what ACTA actually is and assume it's the exact same thing as PIPA etc which again are different laws but only for the US market.

That's a pretty optimistic view. If you read my post I never said a treaty was a law or vice versa.
SOPA or PIPA hasn't been passed here yet either, yet you'd never know it by the way they're taking down websites.
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24. February 2012 @ 09:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This has nothing to do with Democracy, actually quite the opposite. Chrony Capitalism, yes... Corruption in our system, yes.... But Democracy, Freedom, and representing us as a whole, no!
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