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Pirated TV show release groups move to new standard, MP4
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article published on 3 March, 2012
Most of the heavy hitters in the TV show piracy scene have moved away from the XviD/AVI standard of the past decade and started releasing files in MP4/x264.
The release groups, SAP, BAJSKORV, C4TV, D2V, DiVERGE, FTP, KYR, LMAO, LOL, MOMENTUM, SYS, TLA and YesTV came together in February and wrote up "The SD x264 TV Releasing Standards 2012" documents, which pretty much details all the ... [ read the full article ]
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3. March 2012 @ 17:15 |
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3. March 2012 @ 18:21 |
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Originally posted by ROMaster2:
At least make it mkv...
Container doesn't really matter, stop beating a dead horse.
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3. March 2012 @ 19:40 |
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Now if only some other scene groups would get together and remove the archaic rule for 1CD/2CD releases. It's 2012, people.
Umm uhh hmm... Is this proof that you are a pirate? I mean I'm no saint by any means but personally I'd probably have not written that sentence.
Just kidding those CD1 CD2 releases really get to me they were great when they had a purpose but now its just OLD.
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3. March 2012 @ 23:15 |
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Originally posted by ROMaster2:
At least make it mkv...
I prefer to encode and work with .mkv, but many devices don't work with it and/or can't play it natively. MP4 is simply more universal at the moment.
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3. March 2012 @ 23:54 |
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4. March 2012 @ 00:11 |
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I prefer MKV as well, but anything is a step up from AVI. The most important part is that the container support H.264, and MP4 does. No Vorbis audio, but that was the case with AVI as well.
On a side note, isn't it amusing how the "pirates" are more concerned with compatible, consumer-friendly standards than the whole movie industry? Compared to the convoluted specs of a DVD or Bluray video disc, these are beautifully simple. I guess when you're not obsessed with preemptively branding all of your customers as criminals and slapping DRM on everything you sell, things go smoother. Who knew?
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4. March 2012 @ 03:21 |
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i hate x264 and mkv.my dvd player and tv can play xvid and divx straight off usb they dont support x264 or mkv.
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4. March 2012 @ 08:50 |
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
i hate x264 and mkv.my dvd player and tv can play xvid and divx straight off usb they dont support x264 or mkv.
Your TV and DVD player is old. Technology hates you too. I guess what's left is buy new equipment, or your own DVDs/BRDs, and do your own conversion.
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4. March 2012 @ 08:52 |
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My WD HD TV Live hates AAC audio & simply refuses to play it.
Almost anything else works perfectly.
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4. March 2012 @ 09:19 |
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Yes, newer DVD/Blu-ray players have a home menu where you select a different video format like MP4, MKV and streaming services.
Older players will only play DVD and CD formats VOB, .WAV and the like. Even older Blu-Ray players limit your options.
Blu-Ray disks are now getting to be reasonably priced which makes pirating videos not worth the time, risk of paying fines and wasting bandwith.
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4. March 2012 @ 11:26 |
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I think the quality of a SD should be held constant and reduce the size of the file when more efficient technology comes into use.
reason 1 - consistent quality in a video library if the quality of SD is raised because they can fit more into the same file size. All video from now forward will be of different quality than old files which can be annoying.
reason 2 - Reduction file size is only going to save time and money. Time format and create files, faster racing, shorter download time, use less HDD space.
I can see the argument for constant size and raised quality but my person opinion is constant quality.
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4. March 2012 @ 11:50 |
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That's what they do using H.264/mp4. The size is not the same,it will always be different. They use CRF encoding, which means a cartoon show, or a talk show will have a different compression than an action show, resulting in different size, but "same quality" encoding.
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4. March 2012 @ 12:40 |
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Originally posted by 50race:
I think the quality of a SD should be held constant and reduce the size of the file when more efficient technology comes into use.
reason 1 - consistent quality in a video library if the quality of SD is raised because they can fit more into the same file size. All video from now forward will be of different quality than old files which can be annoying.
reason 2 - Reduction file size is only going to save time and money. Time format and create files, faster racing, shorter download time, use less HDD space.
I can see the argument for constant size and raised quality but my person opinion is constant quality.
80% compression will give a reasonable video however two things need to be kept in mind,the quality of the source to begin with & the resulting size will be big outputted file if you want a quality SD encode.I understand exactly what your wanting in the final output the only way to get it is with HD,You'd have to download the same action movie of xXx,or some other correctly encoded hd file,for xXx it's size is 1gb the quality has to be seen to be believed as does the sound,there's no way i could convert the SD version of it & get the same bit-rate & resolution at an output of 1gb,the amount of loss of quality would make it unwatchable,to be honest the 1gb version of the action triple x is better than the actual dvd quality wise
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4. March 2012 @ 16:57 |
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except there is a problem.
most computers cannot fully support the x264 format because there graphics card cannot display hd and x264 is a hd format and more and more cheaper computers that are being sold at walmart and other places for low income families so this format thing won't last long and worse the reason people where using xvid is the video couldn't be opened without vlc and when people went to snoop across networks they labeled the xvid files as corrupted and ignored them when searching for pirates so have fun getting caught easier now
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4. March 2012 @ 17:50 |
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@megahunder...
You're not serious, right?
My 12 y.o laptop plays just fine an SD x264.
X264 is not exclusively found in HD format. HD formats are mostly x/H264.
"xvid...couldn't be opened without VLC"...Seriously?
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4. March 2012 @ 18:57 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
@megahunder...
You're not serious, right?
My 12 y.o laptop plays just fine an SD x264.
X264 is not exclusively found in HD format. HD formats are mostly x/H264.
"xvid...couldn't be opened without VLC"...Seriously?
i open all formats with windows media player lmao
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4. March 2012 @ 20:54 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
@megahunder...
You're not serious, right?
My 12 y.o laptop plays just fine an SD x264.
X264 is not exclusively found in HD format. HD formats are mostly x/H264.
"xvid...couldn't be opened without VLC"...Seriously?
Yes, megadunderhead made no sense at all.
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ivymike
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4. March 2012 @ 23:02 |
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I wonder if this agreement also applies to music videos posted on the P2P networks???
Also,
I can handle Matroska...I use mkv2vob to convert it to my liking.
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4. March 2012 @ 23:43 |
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Originally posted by ConcernedCitizen:
I grabbed one of these "mp4" files when this first happened a week ago, Eastbound and Down it was, and my ps3 wouldn't even acknowledge it.
They better not make it so I can't watch files over my tv.
Or you'll do what exactly?
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5. March 2012 @ 03:15 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
i hate x264 and mkv.my dvd player and tv can play xvid and divx straight off usb they dont support x264 or mkv.
Your TV and DVD player is old. Technology hates you too. I guess what's left is buy new equipment, or your own DVDs/BRDs, and do your own conversion.
ive only had my tv a month but hasnt really mucked around with all the video formats on it xvid & mp4 play on it.my dvd player is kinda old had it since 2008.think the problem is we are not all rich and we cant afford to go out and buy the latest technology.
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5. March 2012 @ 03:56 |
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Sounds like Raspberry Pi time! :-P
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5. March 2012 @ 04:55 |
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Hum, perhaps its me, but in the far east they use RM or RMVB, both do Hi-Def and at reasonable sizes, I have loads of them and the quantity is top notch, and my media player plays it, so theirs another format to consider.
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5. March 2012 @ 15:01 |
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Wow, many questions.
SD vids only? No change to HD?
I have all MKV tools. Do the same things exist for MP4? Looks like I have some more downloading to do.
Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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6. March 2012 @ 08:27 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
@megahunder...
You're not serious, right?
My 12 y.o laptop plays just fine an SD x264.
X264 is not exclusively found in HD format. HD formats are mostly x/H264.
"xvid...couldn't be opened without VLC"...Seriously?
ahh but what graphics card as i said the format is graphics card dependent and a lot of cheap garbage intel graphics accelerators refuse to play the format
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