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28 companies sign up for new 'SOPA,' CISPA
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article published on 9 April, 2012
28 companies have revealed support for the new "Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2011 (H.R. 3523)."
The act was introduced by Rep. Mike Rogers and Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger and will "allow companies or the government free rein to bypass existing laws in order to monitor communications, filter content, or potentially even shut down access to online services for 'cybersecurity ... [ read the full article ]
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10. April 2012 @ 01:29 |
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Nice of you to provide a boycott list, saves me some trouble.
I don't mind switching to AMD, Intel.
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10. April 2012 @ 01:33 |
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My father works for one of those companies... wtf am I going to do now? I can't just go on over to the company and start protesting, besides protesting is supposed to be a last resort.... I guess I'll have to sit this out out. :/
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10. April 2012 @ 03:32 |
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What has become of the USA Constitution ? Especially the parts about right to keep private, probable cause and due process ?
The net is just an extension of telephony with video, evidenced by the saturation of telcos milking the net. I fear when it becomes a violation of copyright law for my radio ot TV to be audible while using the telephone.
We are rapidly heading to the police state tipping point in the US. Vote with your billfold and boycott the "alleged persons" ass mit romney calls them. I saw the typo but left it.
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10. April 2012 @ 07:41 |
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Too much money backing this,.
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10. April 2012 @ 08:41 |
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Looks like the KGB will be running the country soon.
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10. April 2012 @ 08:48 |
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My father works for one of those companies... wtf am I going to do now? I can't just go on over to the company and start protesting, besides protesting is supposed to be a last resort.... I guess I'll have to sit this out out. :/
So let me get this straight; because your father works for one of these companies, you feel you are not allowed to voice your opinion?
There are more ways to protest than standing outside a building; you do know we have entered the digital age right? There are protests sheets all over the net you can sign your email (or a fake email) to, to show support against these bills. I don't even live in US and I petitioned against them.
Don't give in to them simply because your father works for them. Besides does your father share the same opinion? Have you even asked his thoughts on it? If he's worked for the company for a while, it shouldn't even be a concerned if he voiced his opinion on it. If he got fired for being controversy to company views, that would smell like lawsuit to me.
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10. April 2012 @ 09:45 |
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Seeing Facebook on this list doesn't surprise me at all since everyone on the planet knows Facebook doesn't give a rats a$$ about peoples privacy and cant wait to sell our information for a profit.
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10. April 2012 @ 10:54 |
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Freedom was and will always be a way to make others rally to a cause but now corporate American has seen fit to tread all over the rights that are protected under the constitution. the freedom of choice ... look I think everyone should have health care but not forcing those who choose to gamble to buy it if they don't have coverage then go to a pharmacy and fix your own boo boo not run to an emergency room because you stubbed your toe. that said since when has the government of the united states ever censored us for our own good? like owning hand guns our choice has always been ours who do these few company's think they are to even jump on the band wagon next the list will be who we are allowed to buy from ... this needs to stop before we end up like north Korea
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10. April 2012 @ 11:22 |
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Originally posted by Mysttic:
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My father works for one of those companies... wtf am I going to do now? I can't just go on over to the company and start protesting, besides protesting is supposed to be a last resort.... I guess I'll have to sit this out out. :/
So let me get this straight; because your father works for one of these companies, you feel you are not allowed to voice your opinion?
There are more ways to protest than standing outside a building; you do know we have entered the digital age right? There are protests sheets all over the net you can sign your email (or a fake email) to, to show support against these bills. I don't even live in US and I petitioned against them.
Don't give in to them simply because your father works for them. Besides does your father share the same opinion? Have you even asked his thoughts on it? If he's worked for the company for a while, it shouldn't even be a concerned if he voiced his opinion on it. If he got fired for being controversy to company views, that would smell like lawsuit to me.
I understand what you say, but with the way a union works, if it ever was traced back, he would be fired for sure. unions are the pit of all evil imo. "that's my own personal opinion, no need to fuss" this is why I'm trying to stay cautious around the issue, I'd rather not be the cause of his employment troubles after he worked for over 3 years to find another job. I'm all for freedom, but the position I would put my dad in would be a bad one. It's not just me and my dad here but 5 other people.... It was hard enough before. I'll contact my local representative and senator, all I really can do.
One things for certain, the union that is MPAA,RIAA & all of Hollywood needs to be put into place, these people are the dark side of business, the kind of business that have no moral, no ethic and no concept of anything but more money and this is what happens when the extreme left wing see's the power hold and struggles to continue possession.
I'll probably be banned and or flamed for that comment, but I have to say it otherwise who will? It's unfortunate people have gotten themselves into this situation, I love my country and hate to see it bending over for government and "special" interests, this isn't what our founding fathers had intended. I've always said, when everyone leaves because those in power drained the last out of our great country, I'll be here to re-build... I just hope that time never comes.
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10. April 2012 @ 11:55 |
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wow ww3 damn your in a situation
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10. April 2012 @ 11:57 |
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Originally posted by A5J4DX:
wow ww3 damn your in a situation
I know, that's why I can't do anything...
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10. April 2012 @ 14:29 |
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WW3, voicing your opinion and helping spread the word by word-of-mouth is doing something.
Not all of us can stage sit-ins down at Wall street! Some of us have to earn a living.
Don't sweat the little things.
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10. April 2012 @ 14:40 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
WW3, voicing your opinion and helping spread the word by word-of-mouth is doing something.
Not all of us can stage sit-ins down at Wall street! Some of us have to earn a living.
Don't sweat the little things.
actually, I'm not a member of #OWS, and I guess I could see how you might have come to that conclusion... I've always considered myself a goldwater consevative and completely understand how you feel. I've basically been a forced neet since I was 16 because of all the moving I've done, and now I am grasping at the chance to attend college now that we have settled down... I swear we need to go back to the 1930's as a society, something went wrong.
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10. April 2012 @ 15:50 |
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I appologize. I did not mean to imply you were a member of OWS, as I am not, either.
I only meant that for many of us, simply talking about the issue in public forums can constitute "support".
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Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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10. April 2012 @ 15:54 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
I appologize. I did not mean to imply you were a member of OWS, as I am not, either.
I only meant that for many of us, simply talking about the issue in public forums can constitute "support".
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Oh alright lol I guess I just read it wrong xD. I guess I could link this on some forums I visit from time to time,but honestly... I am getting pretty sick of the internet *shock* maybe it's just because of being stuck for so long....
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10. April 2012 @ 16:01 |
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It seems that some of my Sci Fi rantings have come to a bit of fruition?
So the Gov can't spy on its own people, so they'll let the corporations do it for them. Then let them 'volunteer' the information to said Gov... for what? Immunity? And what does this immunity supposedly have to be from?
Here's a little known fact some of you folks may not be aware of... say you have a problem with your landlord. No hot water. You've called up repeatedly to get it fixed, but each time you do he does nothing, but blow you off & makes excuses. So finally you give him an ultimatum of either fix the hot water or your going to report him to the housing authority. That's when he threatens your life.
But, no one is going to believe you, right? So say you get a recorder & record the conversation. Is it legal? The answer is an astounding )*YES*(!!! So long as one of the two parties involved know the conversation is being recorded, the action is legal.
Bugging is completely different. There's no conversation. This crap with the Gov is a pure outright police state & must stop immediately. Not to mention Rep. Mike Rogers and Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger need to have their asses thrown in jail for thinking up such legislation much less drafting it up and getting the 28 companies to comply.
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10. April 2012 @ 16:14 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
It seems that some of my Sci Fi rantings have come to a bit of fruition?
So the Gov can't spy on its own people, so they'll let the corporations do it for them. Then let them 'volunteer' the information to said Gov... for what? Immunity? And what does this immunity supposedly have to be from?
Here's a little known fact some of you folks may not be aware of... say you have a problem with your landlord. No hot water. You've called up repeatedly to get it fixed, but each time you do he does nothing, but blow you off & makes excuses. So finally you give him an ultimatum of either fix the hot water or your going to report him to the housing authority. That's when he threatens your life.
But, no one is going to believe you, right? So say you get a recorder & record the conversation. Is it legal? The answer is an astounding )*YES*(!!! So long as one of the two parties involved know the conversation is being recorded, the action is legal.
Bugging is completely different. There's no conversation. This crap with the Gov is a pure outright police state & must stop immediately. Not to mention Rep. Mike Rogers and Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger need to have their asses thrown in jail for thinking up such legislation much less drafting it up and getting the 28 companies to comply.
See that's how they get us, both members are of opposite parties, but represent the same goal as long as "hey were working together" is able to fool the majority, they can get away with whatever they want! Something changed, I know I've already said this but it needs to be drilled in. I understand with each new generation people become a little more liberal than what was considered normal when the patents were younger. But this is an absolute joke, if not a travesty of justice.
We need to get the country out of debt and out of peoples lives, it can't be sitting there as a backup, this is the end result of that plan! Everyone prepare for another 4 more years of carter, they have already fixed the vote!
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10. April 2012 @ 16:21 |
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The thing that gets me is that people will always find a way. There is no such thing as absolute security, and these companies will continue to plague out internet, our country and our lives.
When the voice of the people is no longer heard, the movement and power of the people needs to be set into place. The government has needed a radical change of pace since the 90s, and we are too lazy as a people to do this. We are about to give up the one thing that matters to us, which is our freedom. They will strip us of all the things that those who are fighting for are sworn and dying to protect. My personal opinion, and i will not back down from this: Remove those in power who threaten the freedoms of those who live here. Hollywood needs to quit crying because people are stealing their stuff. If it wasn't so expensive to go out and do this stuff, im sure most wouldn't. I do it because i don't support corporations that feel it necessary to rob those of everything we hold dear. Better start getting your affairs in order people.
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10. April 2012 @ 23:47 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
It seems that some of my Sci Fi rantings have come to a bit of fruition?
So the Gov can't spy on its own people, so they'll let the corporations do it for them. Then let them 'volunteer' the information to said Gov... for what? Immunity? And what does this immunity supposedly have to be from?
Here's a little known fact some of you folks may not be aware of... say you have a problem with your landlord. No hot water. You've called up repeatedly to get it fixed, but each time you do he does nothing, but blow you off & makes excuses. So finally you give him an ultimatum of either fix the hot water or your going to report him to the housing authority. That's when he threatens your life.
But, no one is going to believe you, right? So say you get a recorder & record the conversation. Is it legal? The answer is an astounding )*YES*(!!! So long as one of the two parties involved know the conversation is being recorded, the action is legal.
Bugging is completely different. There's no conversation. This crap with the Gov is a pure outright police state & must stop immediately. Not to mention Rep. Mike Rogers and Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger need to have their asses thrown in jail for thinking up such legislation much less drafting it up and getting the 28 companies to comply.
The laws on that vary from state to state. In many states both parties must be made aware the conversation is being recorded, otherwise it's still illegal.
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I'm actually surprised Facebook is on the list. With SOPA/CISPA Facebook could easily get shutdown by Hollywood if someone posts a link to a copyrighted MP3 or even a movie trailer.
Time to start drafting letters to my Senators again...
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11. April 2012 @ 04:08 |
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Originally posted by WW3:
Originally posted by ThePastor:
WW3, voicing your opinion and helping spread the word by word-of-mouth is doing something.
Not all of us can stage sit-ins down at Wall street! Some of us have to earn a living.
Don't sweat the little things.
actually, I'm not a member of #OWS, and I guess I could see how you might have come to that conclusion... I've always considered myself a goldwater consevative and completely understand how you feel. I've basically been a forced neet since I was 16 because of all the moving I've done, and now I am grasping at the chance to attend college now that we have settled down... I swear we need to go back to the 1930's as a society, something went wrong.
I am with OWS since before 8-17-11. We awakening people ;)
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11. April 2012 @ 04:18 |
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Originally posted by R0gueW0lf:
The laws on that vary from state to state. In many states both parties must be made aware the conversation is being recorded, otherwise it's still illegal.
Only with audio, but if: is video or picture in it; Is not illegal.
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11. April 2012 @ 11:17 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Originally posted by WW3:
Originally posted by ThePastor:
WW3, voicing your opinion and helping spread the word by word-of-mouth is doing something.
Not all of us can stage sit-ins down at Wall street! Some of us have to earn a living.
Don't sweat the little things.
actually, I'm not a member of #OWS, and I guess I could see how you might have come to that conclusion... I've always considered myself a goldwater consevative and completely understand how you feel. I've basically been a forced neet since I was 16 because of all the moving I've done, and now I am grasping at the chance to attend college now that we have settled down... I swear we need to go back to the 1930's as a society, something went wrong.
I am with OWS since before 8-17-11. We awakening people ;)
that's great to hear, but if you truly want to resolve the situation run for congress don't take to hacking, the risk isn't as steep.
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