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Sergey Brin: All Hollywood anti-piracy legislation are misguided
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article published on 15 April, 2012
Google co-founder Sergey Brin has said the entertainment industry is "shooting themselves in the foot, or maybe worse than the foot" by trying to push anti-piracy legislation.
Brin said the recently killed PIPA and SOPA legislation would have led to the U.S. becoming more like Iran and China, who censor their people.
Even more importantly, Brin hit the nail on the head in regards to ... [ read the full article ]
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Zoo_Look
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21. April 2012 @ 15:07 |
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its not mandatory for you to argue on an internet forum but you are.
You're right... I am making a choice to do so. Much like people CHOOSE to blame other people for their own failings. If you or anyone else is irresponsible and f**k yourself over because you are too stupid or ignorant of what you sign up to, that's YOUR fault, nobody else's. Its called personal responsibility, and is obviously lacking in some people on this thread.
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I live in australia not a 3rd world country if i wanna play games or use apps on facebook i should be able to without them trying to invade my privacy.
You're right here too, you don't live in a 3rd world country. You are therefore not forced to participate in either facebook, or its apps or games. You CHOSE to do so, and accepted the terms as given... if you were not happy with those terms, you should have said 'NO' when asked if you were happy with the terms. Or are you saying you don't read things like that?
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heres a question on a personal level for you.if you signed up for an internet forum and were hacked as a result would it be your fault for signing up or the sites admin for giving your info away????
Except facebook isn't being hacked, people WILLINGLY give their details to them. I hope you are not trying to say the 2 are the same, because that's a stupid analogy.
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as for banning people from using the internet you try and do that to someone who is an adult with money and a credit card and a computer.its kinda hard.my aunty has a problem with spammers and viruses her son fixes her computer every week.legally we cant stop her using the internet or doing stupid things on it.
OK, so what you want is 'Lowest common denominator'
No website should allow anyone to sign up for anything, just in case someone forgets to read the term and decides AFTERWARDS that they don't want to be signed up after all.. is that right.
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21. April 2012 @ 16:01 |
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Originally posted by kersmere:
ITS TIME YOU ALL STARTED TO WAKE UP ABOUT AMERICA WHO DOES SHE THINK SHE IS THEY HAVE NEVER HAD FREEDOM SINCE THE INDEPENDANCE
CHARTER WAS MADE.....
WE WHERE STOPED BY THEM IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR THE GREEN BACK WAS CONTROLLED BY THE FEDERAL BANK OF AMERICA ITS PRIVATE NOT BELONGING TO THE PEOPLE THE NEW WORLD ORDER AS BEEN HERE SINCE THE EGYPTION TIMES AND MOVED OVER TO EUROPE AND ARE THE RAPTILIANS
READ THE INFO WHILE THE INTERNET IS OPEN
OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA OPEN YOUR EYES....WE ARE WHATCHING OUR GOVERMENT HERE IN THE UK TOO AND WILL ACT AS THEY TRY .BUT NO CHANCE READ THOSE BOOKS FROM DAVID IKYE..... DIANA PAID THE PRICE BECAUSE SHE WAS HER SELF AND TOLD THE PEOPLE WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON... WHY IS THE EURO BANK IN GERMANY ...2WW WAS USED TO AQUIRE MORE CONTROL ON OUR FREDOOM.... THE INTERNET IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE DESIGNERS COULD EVER FORSEE.....LOVE YOU ALL FREEDOM TO U ALLL////////// UK UK UK UK UK UK UK UK
just what the hell are you trying to say.in english please and with a modicum of punctuation.
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Zoo_Look
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21. April 2012 @ 16:03 |
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And not so many capital's - I have a headache as it is!
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22. April 2012 @ 01:44 |
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The only way to stop stupid people from clicking themselves to oblivion is to stop them from using the internet.
yes zoo look you said it^^^^^
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Except facebook isn't being hacked, people WILLINGLY give their details to them. I hope you are not trying to say the 2 are the same, because that's a stupid analogy.
facebook pages get hacked all the time.
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No website should allow anyone to sign up for anything, just in case someone forgets to read the term and decides AFTERWARDS that they don't want to be signed up after all.. is that right.
yes no one should ever sign up for anything unless they want to be held accountable for signing up when things go wrong.
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22. April 2012 @ 13:19 |
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Not sure that makes sense, but lets go with that... So next time you get in your car, you'll be giving me a lift to work ... right? [/quote:
I dont think the analogy is correct. My car is not made available to the public in the first place whereas facebook is. If I did however offer my car for free lifts then I would respect your right to tell me that maybe I drive too fast. Just because I give (or for that matter sell you) something doesnt rob you of any right to try and improve what I am offering.
Whether a private company or not, Facebook presents itself as a social community - the word community implies a responsibility to involve said community in how it is run. This should mean that every user has the right to publicly criticise aspects of any policies. I agree they dont HAVE to do as I, or anyone else says, but if enough people say the same thing, often enough, it can be effective.
I think also that the issue about needing to use it is a little spurious. Of course to live and breathe it isnt necessary. However it can be necessary to fully partake in other things. I know of some educational courses deliberately use Facebook as a means to continue debate outside of the classroom. Other companies are starting to use facebook as the prime source for customer feedback and so on. So while not essential, social networks are getting close to the state of telephone and postal services both of which have a raft of public protection policies imposed on them.
Lastly I am rather fed up with people who say "you should have read the T&C?" - the fact is that these, for almost everything, are verbose and often (deliberately?) difficult to read AND are seldom read by anyone. Going back to your car analogy, how many people do you think read every detail of their car manufacturers warranty before they buy it?
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23. April 2012 @ 14:05 |
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Idiot quote tag usage by the way!
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23. April 2012 @ 15:03 |
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Originally posted by Zoo_Look:
Idiot quote tag usage by the way!
I quickly tried to delete stuff between the quote tags but must have accidentally deleted the first tag
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26. April 2012 @ 01:47 |
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Originally posted by nbfreak2:
Black boxes in our cars?Were is it going to stop?
Cars today *already* have black boxes in them. It's the computer that runs them. Forensic data can be pulled from them to investigate exactly what the car was doing prior to either crashing, or being turned off. Add GPS (OnStar, anyone?), and you've got yourself a total surveillance solution.
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26. April 2012 @ 13:01 |
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Originally posted by Blessedon:
Originally posted by Mysttic:
In this generation, no words could be more true. It is scary, just how bad Uncle Sam is going to watch us all. Really their justifications for a close[d] internet is simply to be able spy on people's routines.
The offering came back to the table again with very little reforms in place that were key issues to fighting those bills to begin with. All they really did was change the name, with the intent on implementing those policies not just to US but as much as global scale as they can.
The object of censorship is tyranny in the guise of fairness. Students have been brainwashed in liberal socialist education centers, and now the World Order (probably the Bilderbergs) is beyond desperate to shut down the conservative media before they find out there was another side.
It's easy to figure out if we follow the breadcrumbs; It started with The "Fairness" Doctrine that would have made conservative media too expensive to operate. Then (and ongoing) liberal media pump hate into the masses with "Hush Rush", THEN came SIPA, SOPA, ACTA, now CISPA.
Look at the WH visitor log for; Soros' Tide's Foundation, Media Matters, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and 30 other Soros-funded media shills, and the conclusion is unavoidable of the intent to shut down dissent so they can control the access of the masses anything other than state-controlled media.
Pure totalitarianism with a willing, megalomaniac puppet President.
What a crock.
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mightyzog
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4. May 2012 @ 08:46 |
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Originally posted by Blessedon:
Originally posted by Mysttic:
In this generation, no words could be more true. It is scary, just how bad Uncle Sam is going to watch us all. Really their justifications for a close[d] internet is simply to be able spy on people's routines.
The offering came back to the table again with very little reforms in place that were key issues to fighting those bills to begin with. All they really did was change the name, with the intent on implementing those policies not just to US but as much as global scale as they can.
The object of censorship is tyranny in the guise of fairness. Students have been brainwashed in liberal socialist education centers, and now the World Order (probably the Bilderbergs) is beyond desperate to shut down the conservative media before they find out there was another side.
It's easy to figure out if we follow the breadcrumbs; It started with The "Fairness" Doctrine that would have made conservative media too expensive to operate. Then (and ongoing) liberal media pump hate into the masses with "Hush Rush", THEN came SIPA, SOPA, ACTA, now CISPA.
Look at the WH visitor log for; Soros' Tide's Foundation, Media Matters, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and 30 other Soros-funded media shills, and the conclusion is unavoidable of the intent to shut down dissent so they can control the access of the masses anything other than state-controlled media.
Pure totalitarianism with a willing, megalomaniac puppet President.
Blessedon....you are a dope.....you wanna TRY and make everyone think that these bills were going to be used by liberals to attack conservative media....however if you accually did a little homework you would know that it was a GOP rep. that introducted SOPA ( Lamar Smith R-TX) along with 8 out of 12 cosponsors being conservative. Next time you wanna lib bash....go climb back up Rushs ass and stay there... SHEEP!!!! BAAA!!!
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Originally posted by mightyzog:
Blessedon....you are a dope.....you wanna TRY and make everyone think that these bills were going to be used by liberals to attack conservative media....however if you accually did a little homework you would know that it was a GOP rep. that introducted SOPA ( Lamar Smith R-TX) along with 8 out of 12 cosponsors being conservative.
Yes, sir, I may be a dope, but you have the maturity of a small seedless grape.
In your already too long young life, you have not learned that there are liberal republicans and conservative democrats.
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4. May 2012 @ 09:55 |
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Originally posted by Blessedon:
Originally posted by mightyzog:
Blessedon....you are a dope.....you wanna TRY and make everyone think that these bills were going to be used by liberals to attack conservative media....however if you accually did a little homework you would know that it was a GOP rep. that introducted SOPA ( Lamar Smith R-TX) along with 8 out of 12 cosponsors being conservative.
Yes, sir, I may be a dope, but you have the maturity of a small seedless grape.
In your already too long young life, you have not learned that there are liberal republicans and conservative democrats.
shades of greay.
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4. May 2012 @ 15:38 |
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mightyzog, watch the comments as don't need a flamewar.
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4. May 2012 @ 18:19 |
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Originally posted by kersmere:
ITS TIME YOU ALL STARTED TO WAKE UP ABOUT AMERICA WHO DOES SHE THINK SHE IS THEY HAVE NEVER HAD FREEDOM SINCE THE INDEPENDANCE
CHARTER WAS MADE.....
WE WHERE STOPED BY THEM IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR THE GREEN BACK WAS CONTROLLED BY THE FEDERAL BANK OF AMERICA ITS PRIVATE NOT BELONGING TO THE PEOPLE THE NEW WORLD ORDER AS BEEN HERE SINCE THE EGYPTION TIMES AND MOVED OVER TO EUROPE AND ARE THE RAPTILIANS
READ THE INFO WHILE THE INTERNET IS OPEN
OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA OPEN YOUR EYES....WE ARE WHATCHING OUR GOVERMENT HERE IN THE UK TOO AND WILL ACT AS THEY TRY .BUT NO CHANCE READ THOSE BOOKS FROM DAVID IKYE..... DIANA PAID THE PRICE BECAUSE SHE WAS HER SELF AND TOLD THE PEOPLE WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON... WHY IS THE EURO BANK IN GERMANY ...2WW WAS USED TO AQUIRE MORE CONTROL ON OUR FREDOOM.... THE INTERNET IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE DESIGNERS COULD EVER FORSEE.....LOVE YOU ALL FREEDOM TO U ALLL////////// UK UK UK UK UK UK UK UK
so, have you gotten past the block on piratebay yet? i was past the block a couple of clicks after i found mine had blocked it.
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