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Burning 4.39gig+ DVDs on XP
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Ultimos
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7. July 2004 @ 02:18 |
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Ok, I'm quite sure there's some sort of guide or something, but to be honest. I suck at finding stuff.
I know how to burn DVDs which are 4.39gigs or lower, but I'm having a problem with DVDs that are bigger. I read that you can strip it of it's extra features, but I read the FAQ and it said that the program cannot run on WinXP. :'(
So can anyone help me to burn a 4.39+gig DVD into a blank DVD-R? Even if it requires striping it of it's extra features.
Thanks.
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Ultimos
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7. July 2004 @ 02:31 |
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PS: I've seen alot of Guides on how to burn them, but I've only got around 11gigs of space left on my one and only HD. Damn 18gig HD.
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deadcat
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7. July 2004 @ 02:53 |
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have a look in the guide section with regard to using DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter.
A hard drive upgrade may be in order as you are going to run out of space very fast
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Ultimos
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7. July 2004 @ 03:10 |
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Oh ok, thanks!
Yeah, I've had this computer for about 6 years. Getting a new one soon.
Btw, I just download DVD X Copy Xpress, will this do? I hear it compresses or squeezes down DVD-9 movies into a single DVD-R.
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deadcat
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7. July 2004 @ 03:37 |
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dvd x copy works (apart from having to pay for it)
dvd shrink to encode and using DVD Decrypter to burn is totally fool proof (well all most :) and free
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7. July 2004 @ 08:42 |
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321 who makes XCopy is going bankrupt and the software isn't going to be supported much longer so with Xcopy being as picky and temperamental as it is the lack of tech support is a very bad thing. Plus if you need to rectivate it when you reinstall and 321 is gone so is the ability to reactivate it.
I've always recommended DVD Shrink over XCopy and even more so now.
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Praetor
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7. July 2004 @ 12:21 |
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7. July 2004 @ 19:12 |
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just one note ... when using DVD Shrink, it will leave a file that is 4.35GB in your local disk. So when burning is complete, test your backup ... and if all is good with your backup, delete that file to free space for your next backup.
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wpjhhk
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9. July 2004 @ 17:13 |
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I also have XP and have followed this guide. Works great for 4.4 or less, but the larger ones still run out of space on the disk! The green bar shows only green (no gray or red), compression gets down to 50-60%, then when it is nearly done burning it gives error that there is no more space on disk! What am I missing here?
WendyK
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9. July 2004 @ 17:18 |
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wpjhhk,
My guess is your checking all of the audio. You only need one either DTS or AC3. I leave DTS unchecked.
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9. July 2004 @ 17:22 |
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You can also "burn on the fly", that'll save space. Anydvd has a 30 free trial, use it to burn Disc to disc, with only a temporary folder.
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wpjhhk
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9. July 2004 @ 17:25 |
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I have three audio choices, DTS (707MB), AC3 (418MB) and LPCM 2 (1443MB). I have only the LPCM checked, but of course it's the biggest. Does it matter which one I choose, other than size of course? This particular DVD is a music video, but same thing happened when I had a double DVD in last night.
WendyK
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9. July 2004 @ 17:33 |
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LPCM 2 (1443MB).
Huh?? Where's that? Is that an audio selection?
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Veblin
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9. July 2004 @ 17:35 |
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When you need a large amount of compression you should always use Deep Analysis. If you don't Shrink may not calculate the target size correctly and miss the target size, making it too large.
The other option when you you need a large amount of compression is not using Deep Analysis but setting a custom target size of about 4300MB. That allows for the calculation being off. Deep Analysis is also supposed to improve picture quality at high compression.
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wpjhhk
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9. July 2004 @ 17:41 |
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Thank you both - veblin and flip218. Yes, LCPM 2 is a third choice under audio, and is by far the biggest on this DVD. I actually did set custom size of 4360 per instruction guide. Guess I can try Deep Analysis next. Maybe choose a smaller audio option too!
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9. July 2004 @ 17:43 |
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hmmm ... Don't think I've ever seen that. What version of Shrink? and what movie?
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wpjhhk
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9. July 2004 @ 17:48 |
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It's Shrink 3.1, just downloaded last night. Trying to copy Led Zeppelin. Same thing happened last night trying to copy Secondhand Lions.
WendyK
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9. July 2004 @ 17:52 |
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wpjhhk
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9. July 2004 @ 18:00 |
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Hmmm, the horns of a dilemma! For Led Zep, the better quality audio would be the preferred way to go, IF I can get it to burn without running out of space! For regular movie, the video is more important to me. Guess I'll try Deep Analysis before I change the audio on the music DVD. Guess I'll also switch to DVD-RW till I get it to work!
WendyK
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wpjhhk
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11. July 2004 @ 20:35 |
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Now I've tried everything and cannot get shrink to work on larger DVDs. It looks like it's doing right, but every time it gets to about 95% done encrypting, it errors out saying there is not enough room on the disk. Now I think it means my hard drive, since it hasn't even gotten to the burn stage yet. I had 9GB free, then cleared out a bunch more, so I have 12+ GB free. I even defragmented the drive in case it needed more contiguous space or something. Nothing works! What can I do? I even tried just sending the file to the hard drive and then going back to burn it in a separate session, but DVD Encryptor does not recognize the file type or something. An ISO file is the wrong type, and the VIDEO_TS won't open - doesn't even display in a list of "All supported files" when I browse that directory. I've tried 4 different 'long' movies and 3 different DVD brands. Can anyone figure this out?
WendyK
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12. July 2004 @ 01:24 |
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it errors out saying there is not enough room on the disk. Now I think it means my hard drive, since it hasn't even gotten to the burn stage yet.
Nope it means disc. You must set your destination to your HD. 12g's is plenty of room on your HD.
I even tried just sending the file to the hard drive and then going back to burn it in a separate session, but DVD Encryptor does not recognize the file type or something.
Do you mean DVDDecrypter? IF so rip in FILE mode to your HD> then use those files to go in your app that your using(in this case shrink). With shrink you shouldn't have to use decrypter, but every once in a while shrink won't rip, then use decrypter.Decrypter can't burn a file over 4.37, you must re-author and/or compress 1st with another app. Shrink will do this, if you re-author in shrink you will lose your menu function.
An ISO file is the wrong type, and the VIDEO_TS won't open - doesn't even display in a list of "All supported files" when I browse that directory.
Decrypter will only burn iso files. I have no idea where your VIDEO_TS files are coming from. You can set shrink to auto burn with nero, you never have to open the program up. If you don't have nero, you can get a trial version here at AD for 30 days. Shrink by default is set to burn with nero. If you wish to check it, click edit> preferences> fileI/O> enable burning with nero.
Your info is sketchy at best, it would really help if I knew what you're doing step by step. Here is a shrink guide in AD, it will also tell you how to burn with Nero.
oops, sorry, here ya go
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd9_to_dvdr_with_dvd_shrink.cfm
Scuba Pete also has a newbie guide here in AD that works well, you can look it up in the links, I'm hittin' the sack. Good Luck......
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 12. July 2004 @ 01:29
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Veblin
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12. July 2004 @ 01:51 |
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but every time it gets to about 95% done encrypting, it errors out saying there is not enough room on the disk. Now I think it means my hard drive, since it hasn't even gotten to the burn stage yet. I had 9GB free, then cleared out a bunch more, so I have 12+ GB free.
Right click on your drive and select Properties. The File system should show NTFS or FAT 32.
You will get this error if you are using DVD Shrink or DVD Decrypter to write ISO Disc Image files on a FAT 32 Hard Disk Drive. There is a 4GB limit on file sizes on FAT 32 and ISO Disc Images are usually bigger than that. If you use Shrink in file mode you will not have this problem.
Windows XP/2000/NT can use NTFS, FAT 32 or FAT file systems.
Windows 98/ME can only use FAT 32 or FAT file systems.
Versions of Windows that can use NTFS have a built in converter or you can use Partition Magic.
One of the biggest problems when people make a upgrade from Win98-ME to WinXP is they skip the part at the beginning where there is the option to convert their drives from FAT or FAT32 to NTFS before installing WinXP.
NTFS file system is what you should be using on XP.
The only reason to continue to use a FAT or FAT32 file system is if you are also running another OS like Win98-ME or Linux on that computer.
Even after installing WinXP you can convert your FAT or FAT 32 drives to NTFS.
Open Help and Support and search for Convert NTFS to get complete directions.
Example:
Click Start - Run and type.
Convert C: /FS:NTFS
Before you make the conversion to NTFS.
It is a good idea to both defragment the drive and run a error check fixing both file system errors and recovery of bad sectors.
Right click on your drive and select Properties and these options are on the Tools tab.
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ispy
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12. July 2004 @ 04:22 |
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Ultimos:
An easy combo to use is Nero Recode 2 + AnyDVD,AnyDVD is useful to have running in the background anyway as it makes burns region free,also your DVD drive can play movies from any region & copy encrypted CD,s as well.
ispy
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wpjhhk
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12. July 2004 @ 07:18 |
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I think you've nailed it, veblin: I did upgrade this year to XP and the drive does say it's FAT32. THANK YOU! I will proceed to try to convert, and then try to rip again. However, I also tried Shrink in file mode; it had no problem putting files on the drive, but it actually creates multiple files in a VIDEO_TS directory, and then I couldn't get DVDDecryptor to "see" the files. That what I was trying to say when I reported that when I go into DVDDecryptor and try to choose a file it can't find any supported files in that directory. I'll try converting before I try anything else.
WendyK
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12. July 2004 @ 10:22 |
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Hey Wendy, remember, decrypter can rip in file, but it can only burn in ISO. I use file mode to rip all my dvd's, but I don't burn with decrypter, I use Nero. Again, you should be able to rip with shrink, and skip decrypter unless you're using another app.
Do you have Nero?
Nero Ultra 6 is the best all around package there is. It has a TON of useful programs, both in video and audio. Eagletronics has it for 49.00 right now, it retails for 99.00. That is a steal.
You really owe it to yourself to get it. Unfortunately the trial doesn't include recode or nerovision express, two of it's best programs.
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