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mindgod

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11. July 2004 @ 21:45

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OK, hi guys, I have the latest version of Nero out and I have NEC 1300A DVD RW burner. I have downloaded the latest firmware-1.0B. NERO STILL SAYS ILLEGAL DISC ERROR. THe illegal disc error happened when I used fugifilm, so I bought TDK DVD+RW (2.4x)the tdk is the recommended media for this drive and STILL THE ILLEGAL DISC error. I don't know what to do, i feel like smashing the drive to pieces. Also i noticed that in MY COMPUTER it doesnt say DVD drive it says CD drive for the NEC. I am lost. NERO is the latest version, so is the firmware, the media is good, I just don't know. please help, i know this is a very common topic, but i just couldnt find the answers. thank YOU

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11. July 2004 @ 22:07

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Can you post a Nero log with the errors in it?

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11. July 2004 @ 22:09

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No double posts.
RE: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/94142

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11. July 2004 @ 22:12

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Also i noticed that in MY COMPUTER it doesnt say DVD drive it says CD drive for the NEC.

does it say this when you first start the pc? And what other software are you using? Try uninstalling your burner, rebooting and letting XP re-install it, then reboot again.

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mindgod

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12. July 2004 @ 15:41

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sorry, for the double post, i posted the first one in the wrong category. the nero log:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 8:18:06 PM
Nero version: 6.3.1.17
Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A> Version: 1.0A - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.1.17
Adapter driver: <> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <Compaq DVD-ROM DVD-117 >Version: 1.03 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.17
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 4D040H2 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Compaq DVD-ROM DVD-117 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON LTR-24102B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
Compaq DVD-ROM DVD-117 D: CDRom0
LITE-ON LTR-24102B E: CDRom1
_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A F: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 53477376 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 351MB (359828kB)
Free physical memory: 94MB (96724kB)
Memory in use : 73 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

12.7.2004
UDF/ISO compilation
7:39:01 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
DVD-Video files reallocation started

7:39:01 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

7:39:01 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6065
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

7:39:01 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
DVD-Video files sorted

7:39:01 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

7:39:01 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A running

7:39:01 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:39:01 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:39:01 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3172
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

7:39:02 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2286096 (508:01.21, 4465MB)

7:39:02 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

7:39:02 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A, Media type: DVD+RW

7:39:02 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

7:39:02 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286096 (2286096) = #2286096/508:1.21
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286096 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A ]
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (0) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1 (1) = #1/0:0.1
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:39:02 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 2:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681924608, ISRC ""
2: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 4681924608 4681924608 4681926656, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2286096 | 2 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
2286096 | 2 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2286097 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

7:39:02 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Caching of files started

7:39:02 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4182
Cache writing successful.

7:39:02 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Caching of files completed

7:39:02 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

7:39:02 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:39:02 PM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
Verifying disc position of item 1 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:39:02 PM #22 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1188
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03196000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00

7:39:02 PM #23 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 23:48,602 (1428602ms) -> OK

7:39:02 PM #24 Phase 98 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Start formatting disc before burning

7:39:23 PM #25 Phase 100 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Formatting disc was successful

7:39:23 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 613
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

7:39:25 PM #27 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1442
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03700000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x10
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x10

7:39:25 PM #28 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 304
Illegal disc

7:39:25 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

7:39:25 PM #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
conversion idle, stopping reader

7:39:25 PM #31 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

7:39:25 PM #32 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

7:39:25 PM #33 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\InCDfs.SYS': Ver=4, 2, 9, 1, size=90880 bytes, created 5/24/2004 1:57:34 PM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\InCDpass.SYS': Ver=4, 2, 9, 1, size=25600 bytes, created 5/24/2004 1:57:52 PM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\InCDrec.SYS': Ver=4, 2, 9, 1, size=5760 bytes, created 5/24/2004 1:59:24 PM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 8/29/2002 4:27:50 AM (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

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mindgod

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12. July 2004 @ 15:44

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hey, one more thing, i don' think it's Nero because DVD Decrypter couldn't burn the ISO, it said =cannot format check condition. THE CONDITION IS FINE!!! The media is brand new. I am clueless about his thing. please help. thanks

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12. July 2004 @ 18:04

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mindgod,

First thing is ... you need to edit your post. Edit the numbers in the beginning that start with 1A2# .. this is I believe your serial number.

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Also i noticed that in MY COMPUTER it doesnt say DVD drive it says CD drive for the NEC.

Again, do you get this when you first start up your pc? Or, only after you attempt to burn and it fails?

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I have downloaded the latest firmware-1.0B.

Where did you download this firmware?

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12. July 2004 @ 18:16

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The firmware is fine for that drive and NEC's are found of calling themselves a CD Drive :-)

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12. July 2004 @ 18:18

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Try updating your ASPI layer :)

Force ASPI is a great one:

http://forceaspi18.w.interia.pl/

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tigurmil

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12. July 2004 @ 18:35

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Hey mindgog. I'm gonna go out on a limb here. You said you are burning DVD+RW. Are you sure your burner supports this format or is it just for DVD-R and DVD-RW? Just a thought.

mindgod

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12. July 2004 @ 18:39

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I got the firmware from cdfreaks.com and the CD drive message is only in MY COMPUTER, not in Nero. NOw it says DVD-RW. Weird. Guys, this seems to be a random drive! lol, I was able to create a dvd with tdk dvd+rw today. then i tried another movie, and it said illegal disc error with another disc. I am sure it is not the media. There is something wrong somewhere... Also if it does not work with Nero, I try it with DVD Decrypter and it still doesn't work. Do you guys think i need a new drive, this one is not that old.

mindgod

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12. July 2004 @ 18:40

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the drive supports all formats. thanks anyway

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12. July 2004 @ 18:42

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Are you sure your burner supports this format or is it just for DVD-R and DVD-RW? Just a thought.

The NEC 1300A is a dual format burner. Also at times my drive shows up as a cd drive ... I just have to refresh the window.

Also that ForceASPI link is down at times ... try this link: http://wombleintheuk.tripod.com/Final/ForceASPI/ForceASPI.htm

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mindgod

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12. July 2004 @ 19:20

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Yea, I downloaded the ASPI and did the check and everything is properly installed. But i STILL get the illegal disc error with Nero burning.

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12. July 2004 @ 19:38

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Have you been using the same RW over and over or have you tried using other media? Your log suggests the burner isn't liking the media too well.

I also noticed from your log that you have your burner slave to the hard drive which could possibly cause problems. The ideal placement would be for the NEC to be set as master on the secondary IDE.

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mindgod

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12. July 2004 @ 23:10

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thanks for the reply, I tried two medias: fujifilm dvd+Rw and the tdk. Same probem, and these are supposed to be very reliable medias. Thanks for the suggestion on slave/drive, how do you set the drive on master? thanks.

Veblin

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13. July 2004 @ 00:06

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You have Nero InCD installed. This is a known problem that often causes DVD burning problems. Since you are having problems it should be uninstalled.

You probably wonder why Nero includes with their DVD burning software another program that causes it to fail. That's a good question. It just depends on what you are using your drive for. But basically any packet writing software of that type can cause problems for DVD backup and should not be used. That is why it is a separate download.

mindgod

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13. July 2004 @ 10:46

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YEs! I do have INCD installed, but how can it cause problems? I tried to format through INCD and it did not work either: it said Illegal disc: either disc is scratched or check compatibility. But i will uninstall it and try again. If that fails, do you guys think i should get another drive. Pleae recommend one that WILL work lol. with tdk thanks this forum rocks.

Veblin

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13. July 2004 @ 11:03

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Formatting a CD or DVD and using packet writing software like InCD so that the disc can be used as a removable "hard disc or hard floppy" is a completely different thing than making a backup of a CD or DVD.

The software that does the first option is very often incompatable with and causes problems doing the second option. You often have to decide what you really want to do knowing that if choose to have the first option available you may have problems with the second.

mindgod

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13. July 2004 @ 11:07

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THANK YOU! I just uninstalled INCD and so far i backed up STARSKY AND HUTCH and got no errors. One more question: THen why did DVD decrypter not be able to format the disc? because of incd too? and why does nero make incd if it cannot format tdks? Because i tried to make a format of tdk through incd and it said: incompatible. Is INCD a useless program?

thanks immensely for your help.

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Veblin

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13. July 2004 @ 11:38

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InCD works well for some people and is very buggy for other people. I have seen many reports that if it is not working right that it will not even format the disc to use for packet writing.

Is it useless? Not if you want to do packet writing but there may be better software. It's just a choice of what you want to use your writer to do and what software and conflicts there are. Most packet writing software can cause conflicts.

This is a FAQ for DVDXcopy that lists some common software conflicts. Many of those will also apply to Nero, DVD Decrypter and other copy software.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/92472

mindgod

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13. July 2004 @ 12:40

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thanks for the insight. I never expected DVD writing would be so perplexing. Today, something weird happened, I used DVD Shrink to encode a movie and i chose to copy it onto a disc. The DVD Shrink said "illegal disc error" and I don't have INCD. Then, just to try, I tried to copy through Nero BURNING ROM and it was SUCCESSFUL. How can that be?

anyway thanks a lot, you helped me a lot

ScubaPete

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13. July 2004 @ 19:16

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I tried two medias: fujifilm dvd+Rw and the tdk. Same probem, and these are supposed to be very reliable medias

They may be very reliable for Data backup but they are in the Poor category as far as DVD Backups are concerned

You need Ritek G04's or "Branded" Verbatims" -

cheers -

Pete

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asi2577

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13. July 2004 @ 20:15

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I have the same problem, for some reason (and I don't think it is Nero because three other programs did the same). It is because it's a DVD+RW. I have not been able to write to a DVD+RW (As video or as files) but I can write to a DVD+R fine with no errors. I see you where using DVD+RWs in your error log under media type. Now can anyone explain that.

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13. July 2004 @ 20:22

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I have not been able to write to a DVD+RW (As video or as files) but I can write to a DVD+R fine with no errors.

I had that problem with XCopy Platinum, but reversed. I was successful with RW's and unsuccessful with +/-R's. Was fixed by updating my aspi layer.
http://wombleintheuk.tripod.com/Final/ForceASPI/ForceASPI.htm

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