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problems getting from ISO file to DVD movie
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tlatch79
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12. July 2004 @ 20:34 |
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I have gotten most of the way through copying my first DVD, but I am still having some trouble with the final stage. I've gotten everything from my original DVD into one ISO file that is about 4.17GB. I then tried to use DVD Decrypter to burn the ISO file onto one disc. The entire file transfered, but the actual movie doesn't play. When I put the disc into my DVD player (or run it on my computer), the Dreamworks Studios into plays and then a screen comes up asking for disc 2. I've already verified that the entire ISO file copied over correctly and everything seems fine. Any ideas on what I'm missing here?
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12. July 2004 @ 20:52 |
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Hmmm ... When you open "my computer" how big is the file on the burned dvd? And you said you've verified the ISO? You've watched the ISO file on your pc?
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tlatch79
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19. July 2004 @ 19:44 |
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The ISO file is 4.14 GB (4,446,922,752 bytes), so from what i've read it should fit. I'm not really sure how to verify that the ISO is a good file b/c I can't get it to run in my DVD movie application (PowerDVD). I also have the movie ripped out into an Audio_TS directory and a Video_TS directory, but I can't figure out how to put that one to disc.
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19. July 2004 @ 19:57 |
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What programs are you using, and what are your steps? To burn a video_ts file you'll need a program like Nero, Roxio ... etc.
What brand of media are you using?
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tlatch79
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19. July 2004 @ 20:08 |
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I'm using DVD Decrypter for most of the stuff. It allows me to rip a movie to the Audio_TS and Video_TS directories and also to an ISO file.
It also claims to be able to write from an ISO file to a DVD+R.
I've also tried using DVDFab, but can't seem to get that one to properly read the source files on hard drive.
I'm using Fujifilm brand DVD+Rs.
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19. July 2004 @ 20:11 |
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You are only using DVD Decrypter?
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I've gotten everything from my original DVD into one ISO file that is about 4.17GB.
For this movie, how big was the original disc? Or did you have to compress it? If you did compress, which program did you use?
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19. July 2004 @ 20:14 |
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There are two types of dvd's ... dvd-9's and dvd-5's.
DVD-5's you can rip and burn to a blank, no need for any compression.
DVD-9's require the movie to be compressed so it will fit onto a blank DVD+/-R
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tlatch79
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19. July 2004 @ 20:19 |
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To be completely honest, I don't really remember how I got the file created.
Now that I think about it, it probably came from DVDFab, which I think let me select the elements that I wanted to keep. All I had to do was choose English as the only language and no subtitles and the movie was down to a copyable size.
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19. July 2004 @ 20:31 |
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Ok, get DVD Shrink
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm
DVD Shrink will rip and compress, it needs a program to burn(DVD Decrypter or Nero). I'll assume you don't have Nero(if you do let me know), so we'll have to stick to ISO's.
Try using these steps to see if you can get a successful backup:
1) Open Shrink, open disc
2) Click "backup!"
3) Change target destination to "ISO Image File", and check the box to Launch DVD Decrypter
4) Click ok.
I can't speak for Fujifilm brand DVD+Rs, but I can recommend using branded Verbatim or branded Ritek's.
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tlatch79
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19. July 2004 @ 20:38 |
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ok, i'll give that a try, too.
do you think that my original ISO file is in some way bad? DVD Decrypter didn't seem to have a problem creating the file, so i'm a little confused as to why you're having me make another ISO file. shouldn't it just make an exact copy of what i already have?
second, i happened to also rip the movie straight to two sets of Video_TS and Audio_TS directories (for disc1 and disc2). is there a way for me to push those files straight to my DVD+R so that it is read as a normal movie?
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19. July 2004 @ 20:47 |
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do you think that my original ISO file is in some way bad? DVD Decrypter didn't seem to have a problem creating the file
If the disc will rip, most likely your original is fine.
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i'm a little confused as to why you're having me make another ISO file. shouldn't it just make an exact copy of what i already have?
Because I don't have DVDFab, and if that was your original process and it didn't work, then the ISO you already have won't work. So I want to see if you can make a successful backup with the steps I gave you.
If you can, then your process with DVDFab is wrong.
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tlatch79
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19. July 2004 @ 20:56 |
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ok, that makes sense.
i've downloaded/installed DVD Shrink and am now in process of creating the ISO and burning to DVD+R via DVD Decrypter.
Thanks for your help with this stuff.
I'll let you know how everything turns out tomorrow.
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19. July 2004 @ 20:57 |
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One last suggestion. When backing up dvd's, run no other programs(even being online). Only run your backup software. :)
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tlatch79
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20. July 2004 @ 05:58 |
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ok, things seemed to run a lot better last night. it looks like everything copied over fine using the DVD Shrink ISO instead of the DVD Fab ISO. I'm not sure what the difference is, but it's working now so i won't complain.
what about the other structure of source files that i have. is there any way to get a movie that has been ripped to Audio_TS and Video_TS files over onto a playable DVD+R?
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brobear
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20. July 2004 @ 06:36 |
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Edited out and error, misread Flip's post.
tlatch79
If you want to check the ISO file in a player, load it in an emulator program. Simulates a disc drive. Daemon is a good freebie. With the ISO mounted in the emulator the PC sees it as a disc and you can view it with your player software or burn it with most transcoding programs. This way you can tell what the original ISO looks like.
From the sounds of things, it would be a good idea to print out a copy of the DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter guides and read them, and keep them handy until you're comfortable with the controls and functions of the programs.
Shrink recognizes Video_TS files when you open in the File mode. Players before burning look at the separate files in file mode. So you can view those separately if you wish before burning. Or use the Shrink viewer once it has analyzed the files and scan.
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20. July 2004 @ 16:30 |
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Someone got in a hurry and got the attributes in the wrong order.
Wrong order how?
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DVD-5 one-sided single-layer disc and can contain upto 4.38 gigabytes
I guess I should have put "usually" needs no compression.
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single-sided dual-layer DVD disc. DVD-9 can hold approximately 7.95 gigabytes of data
which ... require the movie to be compressed so it will fit onto a blank DVD+/-R
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If you want to check the ISO file in a player, load it in an emulator program.
Why not use Shrink?
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brobear
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20. July 2004 @ 17:22 |
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tlatch79 said,
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I'm not really sure how to verify that the ISO is a good file b/c I can't get it to run in my DVD movie application (PowerDVD).
The reason I mentioned emulators was because he didn't have a method of using the ISO in software other than Shrink. Daemon is free. Flip did a good job of explaining the DVD Shrink. I just intended to address the rest of the problem.
An emulator can utilize ISO to work with most programs. We know Shrink picks up the ISO with the Disc Image choice. It can just as easily use Open Disc with the ISO in the emulator. So 2 ways of doing it with Shrink. But the other programs have to have the ISO in the emulator.
Flip, I should have had that cup of coffee before I got started. I now see you were talking about ripping the retail video 5s and 9s. I was reading hurriedly. We can now record with 5s or 9s. The order is reversed that way. You don't have to compress when recording to a double layered disc. Most of the time when recording to a 5, one uses a transcoder to shrink. Not a lot of DVD-5 videos out there anymore. The studios like giving us all those extras. I should have looked more closely.
Have a good evening.
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20. July 2004 @ 17:34 |
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The reason I mentioned emulators was because he didn't have a method of using the ISO in software other than Shrink. Daemon is free.
Ahhh, I see. I also like free :)
Brobear,
I like the 321rip forumz :) And ya guys done testing?
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brobear
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20. July 2004 @ 17:52 |
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Good evening Flip.
The fixes for the 321 software have been tested. A bunch of the work is covered on threads here at AD. A member here at AD first mentioned one of the fixes and how to do it manually. The fixes at 321 Rip Forumz are for taking the backup window out of a video and opening the ripper in the RF versions. It is even supposed to work with the new Extreme programs.
321 Rip Forumz is a handy spot for things about 321 software. If a person runs into a problem with a patch, they can get the answer from the guy that wrote it. The problem usually comes from trying to put the patch in a program where it won't work.
If you have some of the software, check it out. The little fixes make the software less annoying. No one liked that backup window and it didn't keep 321 out of trouble.
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20. July 2004 @ 18:11 |
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And ya guys done testing?
Brobear,
I was asking about the new shrink :) It will be nice when it's out.
I do have Platinum RF w/ 321rip ... Don't use it much anymore, but am glad the backup screen is gone.
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brobear
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20. July 2004 @ 18:34 |
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Oh
Wrong answer.
Yes, a few of us here at AD were allowed to check out the Beta being tested for the 3.2 version of Shrink. The following was posted by ddlooping.
- New "Quality Options" to improve DVD Shrink output at compression ratios > 70% (or thereabout).
- Ability to output as "split" ISO for FAT 32 users.
- New target size option: DVD9.
All in all a good batch of improvements over the current version.
Hopefully it will be out in the next week or 2. Beta testing is still going on and Shrink is still tweaking the program. The Beta has proven the improvements work, but Shrink wants to make it better.
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hm1
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11. August 2004 @ 23:27 |
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Hi guys
just used Dvd Decryptor to back up a single DVD.
Created a ISO file that is now too big to be paced straight onto a dvd.
Shrink doesn't recognise the iso file, and the file size is about 7gig.
Am i stuck with a file that is no good what so ever
i use
Recorddx
DVD decrypter
dvd shrink
any ideas
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brobear
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11. August 2004 @ 23:35 |
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Did you try Open Disc Image under File (selection on top left of screen)? There are some good guides for Shrink here at AD, at doom9.org and at DVDShrink.info.
One good question. Why rip in ISO with Decrypter when you are going to have to transcode with Shrink? Shrink rips on its own. Decrypter gives the size up front.
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hm1
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12. August 2004 @ 00:19 |
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Hi brobear
tried to use shrink, but it failed to analyse the disk so i though that i'd use decrypter iso mode.
this seemed to work but when i tried to deed it back through shrink, it didn't recognise the file.
im using shrink beta 5 . will a newer version recognise the dvd dycrpter file ?
Any syuggestion of how to compress this file
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brobear
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12. August 2004 @ 05:46 |
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Curious you'd want to use a beta, when 3.2 is the culmination of a long line of versions and betas. All the versions I am familiar with recognize ISO files. Shrink will even create one if desired. I already told you in the form of a question, use open disc image (ISO) under File on the top left of the Shrink window. Open Disc and open disc image are different commands and you appear to have mixed them up. If you don't have that option, your program is incomplete. Beta 5 of what version?
If you are going to work with ISO files, you need to learn about emulators. Daemon is a free one. Shrink is one of the programs that will recognize and use ISO without an emulator. Shrink will recognize an ISO loaded in an emulator with open disc. As I said before, Open Disc and open disc image are different commands and you appear to have mixed them up. Search here at AD and on the net for Daemon and emulators. Even the Nero program has an emulator.
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