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The anti-piracy 'Copyright Alert System' coming within weeks

article published on 20 October, 2012

According to the Center for Copyright Information, the controversial "Copyright Alert System" will hit the U.S. within weeks. "Over the course of the next two months, each participating ISP expects to begin rolling out its version of the CAS," added the Center. The CCI has worked with major ISPs and the media companies to come up with the system which progressively sends out warnings ... [ read the full article ]

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20. October 2012 @ 10:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh dear, I'm quaking in my boots!! More BS scare tactics from Hollywood. This is like the stupid FBI warning on DVD's that nobody pays attention to. "F" them and the horse they rode in on!

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20. October 2012 @ 12:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Piracy is their own damn fault with region codes on discs etc.
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20. October 2012 @ 12:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I love that they use "You wouldn't steal a car" No I wouldn't but making an exact duplicate of that car so the owner gets to keep the original is not the same thing now is it.

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20. October 2012 @ 12:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok so what is stopping people from renting from redbox or from blockbuster and just decrypting there dvd's to mpeg4 and to other formats nothing thats what this is so retarded if you didn't region code everything and release movies first in countrys like japan and the u.k you wouldn't have this problem to begin with
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20. October 2012 @ 13:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by megadunderhead:
Ok so what is stopping people from renting from redbox or from blockbuster and just decrypting there dvd's to mpeg4 and to other formats nothing thats what this is so retarded if you didn't region code everything and release movies first in countrys like japan and the u.k you wouldn't have this problem to begin with
I can't tell you how many friends of mine rent from Netflix and copy DVD's then compress to H.264 format in a MKV container. I know others who lend their owned DVD's to their family and friends to copy............of course I would never think of doing anything like that especially after viewing the scary steal a car BS or reading the FBI warning!

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20. October 2012 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What I do know is this is one of the better approaches they've taken; not that it will work. If hollywood wants to earn more $ for their movies, here's a freaking thought, stop making crap movies. Stop over-budgeting for effects. Stop paying actors as much as they want. Seriously...
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20. October 2012 @ 16:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by megadunderhead:
Ok so what is stopping people from renting from redbox or from blockbuster and just decrypting there dvd's to mpeg4 and to other formats nothing thats what this is so retarded if you didn't region code everything and release movies first in countrys like japan and the u.k you wouldn't have this problem to begin with
You only say that because it's backed up by years of traffic data showing file sharing falls precipitously whenever consumers are offered a reasonable alternative. But other than the facts what do you have on your side? ;)

Not that I need to pirate anything or that there's much of anything out I'd consider worth the effort anyway. But if you want me to watch your movie I'm right here on Netflix. If your movie is worth paying extra to see I'll catch it in the theater or wait until one of my buddies with a 9-foot screen rents it an invites me over.

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20. October 2012 @ 18:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Honestly after reading the article its not going to change anything because the people that still want to access the media freely they will.


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20. October 2012 @ 19:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The only reason why people pirate anything at all.

Is generally because of money.

They either don't have the money to buy something in the first place.

Or

They do have money and do buy 1 DVD Bluray etc at $20 but still want all 20 new releases anyway so buy 1 and pirate all the rest because they can't afford the $2000 it'd really cost to get all 20 movies.

The streaming services can be good I have spotify I probably wouldn't bother with a movie/tv show streaming service as I'm generally not bothered to watch TV or movies in general anyway even if it was free.


The real problem though is you can't expect to make a $100 million dollar movie pay 100 people's salaries for the year and only get $20 back for it, it's not going to work and people just won't bother doing movies if that ends up being the case.

Even the people who do movies/tv shows/videos for youtube and get 5,000+ views get paid money for putting them up.
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20. October 2012 @ 21:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The real problem is that governments and internet providers actually go along with this crap.

That said, this is almost a step in the right direction. Instead of some single mother getting sued for a million bucks for sharing a CD, she gets a warning letter and starts using a proxy, VPN, etc...or maybe she just stops sharing the CD...and then some other band gets the free distribution that the original band would have gotten. The industry is designed so that artists don't make money on album sales anyway...they make money on the live shows, and piracy increases attendance at those shows. Heck, some artists have even gone to giving away their new albums on their websites (essentially the same as piracy, except they are paying for the bandwidth)...others have given the material to fan groups and let them distribute it. Heck, NiN even released all their concert footage from an entire tour to their fans who made a bluray out of it...free to the public, and the best advertising for a live show since the news media bothered to cover protests against Marilyn Manson concerts.


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20. October 2012 @ 23:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bobiroc:
I love that they use "You wouldn't steal a car" No I wouldn't but making an exact duplicate of that car so the owner gets to keep the original is not the same thing now is it.
if that car was my backup car and they told me i couldnt use it.....gone in 60 seconds.
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21. October 2012 @ 02:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bobiroc:
I love that they use "You wouldn't steal a car" No I wouldn't but making an exact duplicate of that car so the owner gets to keep the original is not the same thing now is it.
i was gonna steal my own car from the impound yard in 2007.

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21. October 2012 @ 13:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can't wait to see the reactions from people who start receiving these warning letters in error. Especially from those who torrent legitimate open source and free software.
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21. October 2012 @ 19:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And why on earth would anyone use Hide My Ip? It has the worst rating ever, not to mention you get tricked into paying additional monthly fees or no unlock code for you! HideMyAss might be a bit more, but if you want to pay for software, Hide My IP would NOT be the one I'd choose.
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22. October 2012 @ 04:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not going to work, theres still alot of media available in places like TPB, that are not available in legal places.
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22. October 2012 @ 15:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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The only reason why people pirate anything at all.

Is generally because of money.

They either don't have the money to buy something in the first place.

I disagree.
I would say that one very popular reason to watch un-authorized content is convenience.
The tools for un-authorized media viewing are FAR, FAR superior to any streaming or DRM method out there.


Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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22. October 2012 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Never stole a car in my entire life,but maybe a few hubcaps when I was a teenager.

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22. October 2012 @ 17:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
someone should come out with a list of ISP's that are not participating in this. I will be dropping comcast as soon as this launches


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25. October 2012 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Anyone know if this will be able to track SSL downloads via newsgroups?? I'm under the impression that they are encrypted so ISP's can only see the size of the transfers but have no idea what is being transferred??
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25. October 2012 @ 11:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by matty420:
Anyone know if this will be able to track SSL downloads via newsgroups?? I'm under the impression that they are encrypted so ISP's can only see the size of the transfers but have no idea what is being transferred??
SSL is not immune from DPI. VPN is.

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25. October 2012 @ 11:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by pippincp:
Originally posted by matty420:
Anyone know if this will be able to track SSL downloads via newsgroups?? I'm under the impression that they are encrypted so ISP's can only see the size of the transfers but have no idea what is being transferred??
SSL is not immune from DPI. VPN is.
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25. October 2012 @ 12:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can Google or see the top 5 recommendations here (based on that users site). Always best to shop around.

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There's always HideIPVPN

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