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UK porn regulator says Tube sites are changing everything
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 25 October, 2012
Tube sites irk both regulators and porn giants.
These so called "Tube" sites allow users to upload content to the services, and view content free of charge. This is certainly a change for Internet porn that is causing major headaches for the industry, and regulators are also finding it difficult to keep up.
The Authority For Television On Demand (Atvod) in the UK has the power to close ... [ read the full article ]
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LeeC22
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25. October 2012 @ 11:06 |
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Perhaps if backward countries like the UK, didn't consider pornography to be unsuitable for consenting adults to watch, there wouldn't be a problem.
Sky subscribers already pay to watch porn that has an explicit rating, on par with tea at the vicar's house. So I doubt they would have any complaints at paying, if they could get decent quality stuff. But when people can't pay for it, even if they want to, what option do they have?
The porn industry should direct its attention, to getting countries to change their attitude towards pornography... we've moved on from the 19th century, it's time TV caught up.
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Interestx
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25. October 2012 @ 12:42 |
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I'm no big porn consumer but isn't it obvious by now that the net has proven that the world is full of exhibitionists only too willing to put any sort of porno on the net for free.
Some good some bad.
Such is life.
Tough luck 'industry'.
The days of you picking up (& sometimes coercing & drugging) unfortunate young girls & desperate hard-up women are over and there's nothing they nor anyone else can do about it.
The next step is to admit reality (including admitting in puritan Britain the fact that a lot of 'normal' couples like to watch porn together & it enhances their love-life) - and then go after the minority of genuinely abusive b**tards who think they can get away with it.
(oh and Sky's pay porn.....ought to be prosecuted under the trades description act, it isn't)
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25. October 2012 @ 12:58 |
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There are smutty movies on the Internet - zounds.
Those professional fornicators and their depraved audience are beyond redemption.
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25. October 2012 @ 16:05 |
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Originally posted by LeeC22:
Perhaps if backward countries like the UK, didn't consider pornography to be unsuitable for consenting adults to watch, there wouldn't be a problem.
Sky subscribers already pay to watch porn that has an explicit rating, on par with tea at the vicar's house. So I doubt they would have any complaints at paying, if they could get decent quality stuff. But when people can't pay for it, even if they want to, what option do they have?
The porn industry should direct its attention, to getting countries to change their attitude towards pornography... we've moved on from the 19th century, it's time TV caught up.
actually we have move backwards a tad.perhaps you should see what porn was more than a hundred years ago.it might just surprise you.
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25. October 2012 @ 16:25 |
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The way I look at it is: In my teen days I pay for Magazines, videos, etc. Now on days since I fornicate once a day, why I have to keep giving my money to the porn industry? I call it: WE ARE EVEN! :)))
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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26. October 2012 @ 17:32 |
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Too bad!!!!!!!!
Porn is legal prostitution under a veil so who cares!
Tube sites rock! Nothin' beats a spontaneous urge to rub one out and simply dial up a specific porn attribute. Whether it be a certain girl, position or story.
Cause ya' know?.............the story is everything! They're such A-list type actors.
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26. October 2012 @ 18:45 |
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Originally posted by attar:
There are smutty movies on the Internet - zounds.
Those professional fornicators and their depraved audience are beyond redemption.
There's porn on the Internet? Looks like I had better unplug my router, before it makes its way into my virgin network...
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Vato
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26. October 2012 @ 20:06 |
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Originally posted by phobet:
Originally posted by attar:
There are smutty movies on the Internet - zounds.
Those professional fornicators and their depraved audience are beyond redemption.
There's porn on the Internet? Looks like I had better unplug my router, before it makes its way into my virgin network...
lol , too late. Your intwewebz connection, along with your computer have both been violated by the filth of the world. Oh the shame!!!! lol
Anything in the time and era will suffer in sales because like someone said above (if you can look at it for free on the interwebz) why would you want to pay for it > <
It's like saying if someone gave you a free car. Would you go to the shop and want to pay for one.....no right!
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27. October 2012 @ 03:02 |
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Originally posted by Vato:
Originally posted by phobet:
Originally posted by attar:
There are smutty movies on the Internet - zounds.
Those professional fornicators and their depraved audience are beyond redemption.
There's porn on the Internet? Looks like I had better unplug my router, before it makes its way into my virgin network...
lol , too late. Your intwewebz connection, along with your computer have both been violated by the filth of the world. Oh the shame!!!! lol
Anything in the time and era will suffer in sales because like someone said above (if you can look at it for free on the interwebz) why would you want to pay for it > <
It's like saying if someone gave you a free car. Would you go to the shop and want to pay for one.....no right!
I kinda blame that mindset on Napster. There has *always* been free porn available on the Internet, even before the Internet became mainstream (anyone remember the Mosaic browser, or gopher, for that matter?). You had to know what you were doing. It was there, if you knew how to find it. After a while, it was like "Porn? Meh...". It became more of an intellectual challenge, then anything else. Napster changed all that, with bringing "free" music to the masses. You didn't have to know anything about the Internet, other then how to type in a URL into your browser, to download the Napster install file. People really didn't see it as stealing, as they got the program for free. So now, those very same people expect great Internet content. Oh, and by the way, it should also be free. The mindset is definitely warped. They fail to see the amount of effort it takes to produce *any* content. I think that's why the "Free to Play (F2P)" games are so popular. You can still play, and spend absolutely *no* money. You only spend money when you want to change or improve your gaming experience. It really plays to that mindset.
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27. October 2012 @ 12:29 |
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Much like the way of movies, Porn has gotten bad over the years. The acting is baaadd! I'm sorry, but if the actors don't seem like they're enjoying it, it isn't good porn. Generate good stuff, and people will pay for it. Ethical people anyway ;) Free is a very good way to view/test something before shelling out your hard earned money!!!
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Interestx
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27. October 2012 @ 13:55 |
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Originally posted by phobet:
So now, those very same people expect great Internet content. Oh, and by the way, it should also be free. The mindset is definitely warped.
They fail to see the amount of effort it takes to produce *any* content. I think that's why the "Free to Play (F2P)" games are so popular.
You can still play, and spend absolutely *no* money.
You only spend money when you want to change or improve your gaming experience.
.....except that what you describe isn't a totally 'free' thing at all.
It is merely an altered pricing structure which reflects the new reality.
People can still charge for their wares & rightly expect a fair reward, the point is that it usually takes a little imagination & effort to offer a product the consumer will happily pay for.
It's called 'added value'; giving the sold product features and extras that the on-line free version does not and cannot have.
What they cannot do is expect that in every instance what they sell will always and without exception be 'legitimately consumed'.....in otherwords people will share.
As they have always done.
It's just that now that equates to more sharing than before.....but it is a lie to pretend that this means nobody can ever make a decent living or profit from their work.
When so much content was already bought, paid for and very well rewarded for long ago (most music & films fit this bill) the warped mentality is surely the one that reckons a high price tag is always appropriate and that high margins are sustainable regardless of tech advances & mass-market movements?
Media producers trying to reverse time or attack their consumers over the new 'free' (to a point) paradigm are fighting a losing & utterly pointless (not to mention idiotic & vindictive) battle which can only do them harm in the longer term.
As for porn the amatuer producers crowded out those who claim they produced a much higher quality product.....well, isn't that the market deciding?
(besides being laughable BS)
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27. October 2012 @ 19:38 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
Originally posted by phobet:
So now, those very same people expect great Internet content. Oh, and by the way, it should also be free. The mindset is definitely warped.
They fail to see the amount of effort it takes to produce *any* content. I think that's why the "Free to Play (F2P)" games are so popular.
You can still play, and spend absolutely *no* money.
You only spend money when you want to change or improve your gaming experience.
.....except that what you describe isn't a totally 'free' thing at all.
It is merely an altered pricing structure which reflects the new reality.
Actually, it's totally free. You don't even need a credit card to join. Of course, there are things in place that may prevent you from doing certain things. Starting a guild, or experiencing end game content (raids, etc). Maybe you want a faster mount, or more bag slots for the stuff you'll find during your adventures. But if your interests don't go in that direction, your play time is totally cost free.
Of course, if you find the game content compelling, then you may upgrade to that paid subscription model, or pay for those mounts/slots/etc.
But it's not *required* that you pay to enjoy the major part of the game content.
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Interestx
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27. October 2012 @ 21:49 |
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Well I'll just point out again that you are not describing something "totally free" there at all.
Parts are but the complete product is not, as you admit.
This is where people can make a living & get fair reward for their efforts.....but it's also worth pointing out that nobody is 'just' entitled to become a 'rock star'.
Those that can sell will (and still do) those that can't don't.
It is a noteable feature of the debate that companies producing poor games can be relied upon to lie (I suspect to their less informed shareholders as much as anyone else) that sharing (they call it piracy) took all their earnings.
It's a crock.
The problem most of those making anti-sharing comments have to address is that the content which is shared is - by far - the stuff which is popular & which already sells enormously.
This applies to games, music & film - & books too now.
Therefore the notion that nobody is willing to pay & contribute is, in most cases, erroneous......and in fact usually just the standard nonsense touted by a parasitic industry with a long history of cheating artists.
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28. October 2012 @ 00:34 |
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It pleases me to no end that Spankwire, PornHub, and their ilk are giving the UK's porn regulators fits. Keep it up!
As if anything really works to verify age online, besides giving credit info (which is a submoronic thing to do). What, 12-year-olds can't select a different birthday, when asked..?! lol
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28. October 2012 @ 13:57 |
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Nature indeed finds a way.
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Interestx
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28. October 2012 @ 21:07 |
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The joke is in the UK we were told for decades that easy access to so-called 'hard porn' depraved & corrupted people.
The net & widespread easy access to real porn has been around for at least 10yrs.....did the UK sex crime numbers rise or fall?
(*hint*..............
.......................they didn't rise)
So much for the 'traditional' puritan nonsense.
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Bozobub
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28. October 2012 @ 21:17 |
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Apparently you didn't ship ALL the Puritans over here ^^'.
It must be those overly tight head-buckles...
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28. October 2012 @ 22:58 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
Well I'll just point out again that you are not describing something "totally free" there at all.
Parts are but the complete product is not, as you admit.
Again, my point is that you can play while spending absolutely no money, whatsoever. Totally free. Nada spent. Zilch. This serves to reel those people in that have come to expect great content, for little or no cost to themselves.
The players can choose to spend their hard earned cash to change their gaming experience. But it's not required, and it's not a barrier for entry. You can still play...wait for it...almost there...for free, totally.
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