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Can I edit after copying with Shrink?
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itsmekev
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14. July 2004 @ 23:45 |
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Suppose I used Shrink to copy a movie to my HD, including a few extras. After watching various VTS (using PowerDVD) I decide that I'm not interested in those extras and I want to get rid of them before burning to blank DVD.
Instead of copying the movie again with Shrink and not choosing those particular extras, can I simply delete from my HD, before burning, all the VTS above 01 (VTS_02, etc) including *.bup and *.info, that belong to these VTS, or will I cause a big mess?
Thanks.
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Veblin
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15. July 2004 @ 01:21 |
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I guess big mess.
Also, if you do it again using Shrink and don't add those extras, you will get less compression or maybe no compression on the main title, which will give to better quality.
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brobear
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15. July 2004 @ 04:38 |
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I would agree with Veblin, a mess. Unless you get all the informational files and audio files you end up with a screwed up set of files.
A program such as DVDReMake or some of the freeware may be more what you want for editing out files. Shrink is a great program with editing capabilities. Since you have the original video whay not watch it and make the decision and edit with Shrink. Otherwise, spring for an editing program.
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15. July 2004 @ 08:44 |
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good point veblin, even if you could, which is conceivable (maybe?), why would you want to? You're gonna be dealing with compressed files. Just to save 30 minutes? Your schedule must be really tight! Quality will be less, why not re-author 1st and then re-compress?
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15. July 2004 @ 11:06 |
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If the complete disc is still on your hard drive you can reopen them in Shrink and reauthor.
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pa104inf
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15. July 2004 @ 11:26 |
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I have backed up stuff for my brother who doesn't have a burner and wanted his DVD back as quickly as possible. I copy the DVD to the harddrive using a custom setting of 9999 so it will finish quickly. I let the machine do this while I am at work in the morning and by lunch time I am able to return the DVD back to him. During lunch I look at the output of DVDSHRINK and modify the settings and compress the files. I then create a DVD and give the backup to my brother. If you copy the original to the harddrive exactly as it is on the DVD, dvdshrink will treat the harddrive version exactly like the DVD disk version. I should point out that you can manipulate what you want copied to the harddrive (removing subtitles, etc.) and DVDSHRINK will still let you work with the harddrive version.
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15. July 2004 @ 11:35 |
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itsmekev's statement was "Suppose I used Shrink to copy a movie to my HD, including a few extras." indicating he has already re-authored to some extent. This is not the same situation as ripping the entire disc to his HD, which of course you could use over and over again. If he were to use those files(if he could) he would be dealing with already compressed files, which would lower video quality as opposed to using unauthored files from a full disc copy.
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 12:00 |
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As a rule of thumb - what would you suggest is the minimum compression rate that one should use with Shrink?
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15. July 2004 @ 12:12 |
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Hard to answer, I don't know what other apps you have or what your standards are. Personally I wouldn't go over 15% or 20% leaving your dvd at 80 to 85%. A lot go up to 50% and you will still have decent backups..
I have other apps i choose to use with more than 15% compression, Nero's recode, Pinnacle's InstantCopy 8, Intervideo's DVDCOpy 2, and the granddaddy of them all, for extremely long movies, DVDRebuilder/CCE.
For people new to the backup scene, I recommend Nero ultra 6, a complete video/audio package for 49.00 at eagletronics, normally costs 99.00.
It's a matter of choice. Re-authoring in shrink eliminates menu function, I prefer to keep that. I like some extras, not all. In the end, it's what makes you happy.
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 12:20 |
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What is the best way to keep some extras and not lose the menu?
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15. July 2004 @ 12:25 |
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All the progs I mentioned will do this, sorry, can't be done in shrink.
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 12:39 |
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All the progs you mentioned would allow "re-authoring" and still keep functioning menu?
If so - maybe it's time to switch...
Are they as easy as Shrink? Any of them is freebie?
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brobear
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15. July 2004 @ 12:46 |
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When they get the new version of DVD Shrink out, 3.2, you should be able to use it easily for compression up to 25%. I went to about 33% with the 3.2b4 Beta and it worked well. Anything above 30% I would suggest a program like CCE like BigO said. They still didn't put in functional menus with editing, so I go with the software list proposed by BigO.
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15. July 2004 @ 13:06 |
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You can get the trial version Nero's ultra 6 which has recode. Recode works almost exactly like shrink while retaining menu function and has better quality. You have to reinstall the trial version every month, but it will give you an idea of how wonderful this package is. Again, well worth 49.00.
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ddlooping
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15. July 2004 @ 14:05 |
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Hi all,
I would just like to add, Nero does not retain functioning menus when re-authoring.
What it does is give the option to convert titles to a static image when using its "full-disc" mode.
It's still a better option than DVD Shrink "Still-Pictures". ;)
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 14:20 |
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Maybe the upcoming Shrink version (3.2) will do the trick... :-)
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ddlooping
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15. July 2004 @ 14:44 |
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It won't I'm affraid.
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 15:08 |
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By the way, I take it that I can use the Still Pictures mode on specific extras while leaving the others intact (even if compressed). So essentially I'd be able to use the menu to watch the extras I left intact (and skip the Sill ones).
Am I right?
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ddlooping
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15. July 2004 @ 15:19 |
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Yes you are. ;)
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15. July 2004 @ 15:38 |
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itsmekev, I would like to add that yes, recode does substitute a static image for the extra, but I prefer that over choosing that link and the menu having nowhere to go and then the DVD ejecting or if in a changer, switching to the next disc, as happens with many other programs.
So essentially, for all practical purposes, you are still retaining menu function after re-authoring and it gives your link somewhere to go, if only to tell you that particular video has been removed.
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 16:05 |
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Quote: recode does substitute a static image for the extra, but I prefer that over choosing that link and the menu having nowhere to go...
What do you prefer over what? :-)
You prefer Shrink (with Still Pictures) over Nero (pic inserted) or vice versa?
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 16:19 |
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By the way, I assume Shrink is not powerful enough to allow cutting out credits or embedded studio logos and
removing warning/rating screens.
If so - any suggestion for one that would do the trick?
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15. July 2004 @ 16:21 |
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lol, I prefer Nero 10 to 1 over shrink, right now. The new shrink remains to be seen, altho I hear they've hit a big snag.
after re-authoring and it gives your link somewhere to go, if only to tell you that particular video has been removed. Does that not tell you I'm talking about Nero?
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15. July 2004 @ 16:26 |
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any suggestion for one that would do the trick? I have told you repeatedly recode will do "the trick".
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 16:26 |
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Hey, I'm not too bright, only tall, so you have to say/write it slow...
Besides, I'm a newbie, and I'm allowed silly questions.
Nero 10 did you say?
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