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Can I edit after copying with Shrink?
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ddlooping
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15. July 2004 @ 16:26 |
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...altho I hear they've hit a big snag, no, not really. ;)
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 16:32 |
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Easy, Bigo - easy.
We never discussed cutting out credits or embedded studio logos and removing warning/rating screens. Only now I learn from you (thank you, Master) that Nero is the answer to all my questions (including ending world hunger, fixing the ozone hole, etc).
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15. July 2004 @ 16:36 |
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I missed the credits part, never tried that. I'm pretty tall myself, unfortunately I have the weight to go with it.
no need to call me master, sir big O will do.
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 16:39 |
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Bigo - your (subtle) apology is accepted, although a box of chocolates (cash will do too) is recommended.
If you need my address - just PM me... ;-)
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15. July 2004 @ 16:44 |
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I was unaware that I apologized or that I have anything to apologize for. All I'm doing is trying to assist you in making a competent backup.
Speaking of, why don't you do this, it's a free trial, download it, use it, then ask questions. You have enough to go on now.
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 16:55 |
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My dear Bigo - allow me to ask questions as much and as often as I like, and please don't send me to my room only because I ask another question. I appreciate your help, I really do, but please don't treat me like your student.
As to the "apology" - I was kidding. Essentially you wrote previously that you answered my questions before
"I have told you repeatedly recode will do "the trick" only to come later (after I replied) with I missed the credits part, never tried that...
Again, thanks for your help, and don't take life (and this forum) too seriously.
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brobear
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15. July 2004 @ 16:56 |
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BigO
You in another one of those what if situations? What if my dog ran away, my girlfriend left, the mailman went with her, and will Decrypter fry the eggs for breakfast?
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15. July 2004 @ 17:23 |
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brobear, you hit the nail on the head!
ya know, ya try to help someone, you reply to post after post and they still come back with question after question and they haven't even tried any of your suggestions which, by the way may have answered some of their later queries.
Now, I'm being reprimanded when, if I hadn't said anything, wouldn't even be in this situation.
itsmekkev, no.1- anyone that knows me I don't take much of anything too seriously, except maybe, Tennessee football.
no.2 if I or anyone else for that matter,got responses like the last one I received from you by other people looking for help, no one ever would get any assistence.
No.3-no one told you to go to your room, until you try some advice you were given, you'll never know what the hell you're doing and be able to ask relevant and intelligent questions. J. Christ, learn to re-author, then worry about "credits". What a mistake that was , I actually didn't specify on how to edit credits, what was I thinking, of course you had no where to turn!
no. 4- I never took you on as my protege' or student, I only tried to assist, obviously that was a mistake.
no.5- You have made 12 posts in this thread alone and as far as I know you haven't done one thing with recode or any other app but shrink.
You can ask all the questions as "much and as often" as you like, but this member has had his fill of you and your antics! Don't thank me on one end and reprimand me on the other. In fact, just don't thank me at all!
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 17:58 |
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Bigo,
For your info - I not only ask questions but do my homework as well. I already copied, reauthored, edited and burned (successfully) a few movies. Once in a while I'd come back with another question, and I don't see any harm with it. Especially that this area is new to me and I'm excited about expanding my horizons.
It's a forum, my friend, and no one is bugging you personally for answers. You had enough - take a rest, or just ignore the questions. After all no one is knocking on your door or bombarding your email.
Your help is not requested anymore and your attitude surely not appreciated. As to thanks that you don't want - your wish is happily respected.
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15. July 2004 @ 18:04 |
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You're totally wrong there, I get plenty of emails and PM's asking for help, only difference is they appreciate someone's time, you don't. You're obviously never wrong.
As far as your homework goes, I still maintain you've done absolutely nil in recode.
As far as taking a break, I will, from you!
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 18:13 |
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This message was edited (to blank) by me... :-)
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 18:38 |
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I just sent a message to Bigo, in which I expressed my regrets for the somewhat unpleasant exchange, and apologized for my part.
I hope that with this the small "incident" came to conclusion, and we'll go back to our sacred mission of burning...
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itsmekev
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15. July 2004 @ 22:03 |
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Bigo,
Thanks again for your PM in which you referred me to your short guide to Nero Recode.
Although it was intuitive to use, I didn't know that with Nero and DVD43Free (installed on my machine) I could import the movie directly to my HD, so first I used Decrypter to copy the movie to my HD, etc. Now I know better.
I left intact the menu (backed up the whole movie and inserted pics in place of a few extras). However, when I played the movie on my pc (PowerDVD) I could see the menu but it wasn't clickable. I wonder if I did something wrong or when I burn it it'll be operational on DVD player.
How do you feel about backing up large movies (larger than 6GB)? Do you also believe that Decrypter and Copy2One is the best combo, and not Shrink (or Recode)? For instance I'd like to back up Lonsome Dove and the movie itself is almost 8GB! What's the best way to achieve most favorable compression? Should I use Recode?
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15. July 2004 @ 22:56 |
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1st off, the standalone 2.0 version of DVD43 is not free, only version 1.4, which requires installation of patin couffin. If you decide to purchase, I recommend Anydvd, same principle, a little better app. You are not actually burning to your HD, only to a temporary folder which I delete as soon as I am done. This is a good method for limited space.
Some people don't like to burn "on the fly" and if so, decrypter works admirably for the rip, do so in file mode to use with recode. If I'm doing no re-authoring, I use anydvd, if I am, I use decrypter.
On larger movies I prefer InstantCopy 8 and DVDCopy 2. Both have extremely good pic quality. Copy 2 is fast, very fast, IC 8 is more consistant, as sometimes you can experience white pixelation problems in the video with Copy 2.. Not often, but sometimes. On the other hand, it's re-authoring is better than IC 8, so it's kind of a trade off. One factor is IC 8-25.00, DVDCopy 2-79.00.
For extremely long movies, the clear winner (no arguments on this one) is DVDRebuilder/CCE, it is picture perfect. The drawback, 3-4 hours to backup a movie. It is not a beginner app, but once set up it is truly one click in the simplified method. It has no editing, most of us use DVDremake to re-author before going into RB/CCE. CCE-58.00 DRM-25.00 pro-40.00
These are my favorites and not the opinion of everyone else. Only what I have seen in my experience with DVD backup.
Finally,if you feel you have erred in recode use a RW, thus no coasters, if the burn fails.
Good luck....
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brobear
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16. July 2004 @ 00:00 |
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Some excellent choices there BigO. Intervideo appears to have gotten the pixel problem repaired a bit from the earlier versions. When a pixel problem does show up, they are more noticable than some apps, but are not the white giants of old.
DVDCopy2 is more touchy about background 'noise' than most. It is best suited for the new movies and good condition discs. It suffers from poor input, such as old movies with dots and flashes and the discs that have been abused and scratched. For those I use Recode2, its not as good a picture, but the program is more forgiving. I don't have the IC8.
So my favorites are DVDCopy2 and the Recode2. Members of your top rated list. I'm just getting into the CCE, so you're one up on me there.
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16. July 2004 @ 05:20 |
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You will love it, as far as IC 8, you don't need it, you have plenty. I have a disease, softwareitis,
As of now, no cure, maybe one day.....
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brobear
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16. July 2004 @ 07:29 |
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Thats more socially accepted than toyitis. At least you have a social disease. I am considered slightly antisocial or childish. Did ya catch that social thing Verne?
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itsmekev
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16. July 2004 @ 08:40 |
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I've got too large movies (movie itself 8GB) and I'd rather split to 2 DVD than lose quality with aggressive compression. Is DVDCopy 2 my best choice?
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16. July 2004 @ 09:14 |
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If you split the movie, it won't matter. 8g divided by 2 = 4g, no compression at all! Rebuider/CCE really comes thru in this kind of situation. Still IC 8 and DVDCopy 2 have a really good pic at 50% compression, you might want to burn one with a RW, if you don't like it, no big deal. You might be surprised.
I have taken long movies with a lot of extras and made it a 2 disc set. Example, the new Peter Pan- I really liked the menu set up for the extras, so I disabled all the extras and burnt the movie, then diabled the movie and burnt all the extras. i did this in Nero' recode.
I put it in a 2-disc case and made a cover in nero's DVD cover app. I then customized the cover, added special collector's edition- 2 disc set and voila- a perfect 2 disc set copy.
I like my backups to look as good as the original, so I go thru the added trouble and expense of cases and covers with photo paper and a printer.
I get the cases on ebay for about 4.00-7.00/100 plus shipping. That's for double or single. Wal Mart has Kodak photo paper(soft gloss) for 15.00 per 50 pack. Ritek G04's at meritline for .52ea./100 with free shipping. Total, less than 2.00 for a perfect backup!
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16. July 2004 @ 12:25 |
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You can go even farther. Use gloss photo labels. Scan the disc and make a photo copy on the label and paste that on there. The disc even looks like the original. I've got some pretty old and as long as you don't abuse them, the labels stay on great. I use Fellowes.
Don't know if anybody would pay the bucks for it, but DVD X Copy Platinum is the easiest program I ever used to split to two discs. I archived a disc on two for no compression.
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16. July 2004 @ 12:41 |
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Big O. Thanks to your posts sometime way back, I have been using DVD Decrypter and Nero Recode 2 (to re-author). It works fantastic, and the quality is great! Maybe I forgot to say it, but thank you.
Life is good!
GrandpaBruce - Vietnam Vet - 1970 - 1971
Computer: Intel Core i7-920 Nehalim;Asus P6T Deluxe V2
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itsmekev
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16. July 2004 @ 13:03 |
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Bigo, I know how to copy and put on one disc the title and on another disc the extras (Shrink will do the job easily). However, how do I split a movie (8GB long) in two, where the movie itself is 7.9GB. Hopefully it can be done without having to resort to heavy duty prog like Rebuider/CCE.
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16. July 2004 @ 14:19 |
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yes, you can. This is done under remake a dvd in recode. It would take a while to write down this method. Do this, go to the nero homepage and download the nero manuel for recode. It is in a zip file so you will need a prog to handle the file. Most PC's come with one(i think lol), I like winrar, it has a trial period.
You can also view it at the site if you wish and just copy this section. What I did was to download all nero manuels and put them in a zip file in a folder on my desktop, that way, they are handy whenever I need them.
Anyway, follow the method in the manuel, use RW's and if you hit a snag, holler, and I'll help you through it. The manuel has pics and is easy to follow. There is so much stuff in nero 6, I haven't used half of it, What a great program!
@grandpa BTW, you are most welcome, sir grandpa(I was told to respect my elders lol)
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itsmekev
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16. July 2004 @ 15:25 |
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When I use the guide which instructs us how to use Nero for burning (posted on AD at http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/burning_dvd_with_nero.cfm) Nero simply copies the re-authored files to the disc (although it indicates that it's burning them to the disc while in process). Consequently I end up with info. bup. and VOB files, just like I had them on my HD. When I try to play the movie I get the message that this format isn't supported. When I use Shrink and Nero together - no problems, everything goes by the book and I can play the movie anywhere.
I wonder if the guide is mistaken, or is it me (as usual) who got it all wrong...
BTW, thanks for your reply regarding splitting the very large movie with Remake of Nero. I'll check it out and I know how to use zip or rar files. I'm newbie only here, on this form, but I'm not a complete rookie when it comes to 'puters and other things in life... :-)
By the way, I just got DVDCopoy - think this one will do the trick of splitting the large movie?
Thanks for your help.
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16. July 2004 @ 15:38 |
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No, but it'll do a better job of transcoding a video.
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