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Report: 1TB optical discs coming in 3 years
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article published on 23 November, 2012
According to a new report, Fujifilm will have 1TB optical discs by 2015.
The company has developed a new recording method that can reach 25GB per layer, with double sided discs between up to 20 layers.
Current Blu-rays offer the same capacity per layer (25GB) but only go as high as 100GB for special Blu-ray XL discs.
Fujifilm will look to commercialize the technology by 2015. The ... [ read the full article ]
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joebloe12
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24. November 2012 @ 01:15 |
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I wonder if it is that new holodisk technology?
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24. November 2012 @ 08:34 |
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I wonder about reliability...what would a small surface scratch do to a two-photon media?
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deucezulu22
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24. November 2012 @ 10:35 |
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Originally posted by joebloe12:
I wonder if it is that new holodisk technology?
I wonder that as will, been quite some time since I last heard about the holo. Good nonetheless, I loved advancements in new tech especially storage.
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24. November 2012 @ 10:37 |
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Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?
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deucezulu22
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24. November 2012 @ 10:49 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?
What's that suppose to mean?
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24. November 2012 @ 11:19 |
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Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?
What's that suppose to mean?
Flash memory,ect.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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deucezulu22
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24. November 2012 @ 12:29 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?
What's that suppose to mean?
Flash memory,ect.
Alright, but why just end at flash memory when you can make other memory advancements. I rather have all the doors open.
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24. November 2012 @ 12:32 |
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Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?
What's that suppose to mean?
Flash memory,ect.
Alright, but why just end at flash memory when you can make other memory advancements. I rather have all the doors open.
Ya but blu ray is practically useless for backing up stuff on, so will this new disc system.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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24. November 2012 @ 12:48 |
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Interesting but that's all; surely not commercially relevant anyway.
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24. November 2012 @ 12:56 |
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Yeah, I'm thinking "What's the purpose"?
I never even got a Bluray burner.
In order for it to be useful it would have to be very cheap, like CD, and you know it won't be. It will require a new $250 burner and each disk will cost $75, and 1/3 of the disks you burn won't work.
Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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24. November 2012 @ 15:07 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?
What's that suppose to mean?
Flash memory,ect.
Alright, but why just end at flash memory when you can make other memory advancements. I rather have all the doors open.
Ya but blu ray is practically useless for backing up stuff on, so will this new disc system.
what happens when silicone becomes the next crude oil? we're burning through the stuff just like it. Silicon is the substance that can turn a 3rd world county into a military super power all it needs are the right minds to forge it.
i think we need to stop looking at silicon as a magical way to make electronics, after all piss of the wrong parts of the world and your country may find itself paying 10 grand a kilobyte like its the 1960's.
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deucezulu22
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24. November 2012 @ 21:03 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Yeah, I'm thinking "What's the purpose"?
I never even got a Bluray burner.
In order for it to be useful it would have to be very cheap, like CD, and you know it won't be. It will require a new $250 burner and each disk will cost $75, and 1/3 of the disks you burn won't work.
You could say that about all new tech, however, in due time it gets cheaper.
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24. November 2012 @ 23:17 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?
What's that suppose to mean?
Flash memory,ect.
Alright, but why just end at flash memory when you can make other memory advancements. I rather have all the doors open.
Ya but blu ray is practically useless for backing up stuff on, so will this new disc system.
what happens when silicone becomes the next crude oil? we're burning through the stuff just like it. Silicon is the substance that can turn a 3rd world county into a military super power all it needs are the right minds to forge it.
i think we need to stop looking at silicon as a magical way to make electronics, after all piss of the wrong parts of the world and your country may find itself paying 10 grand a kilobyte like its the 1960's.
Meh graphite/carbon will replace it soon enough on that kind of grand scale.
Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by ThePastor:
Yeah, I'm thinking "What's the purpose"?
I never even got a Bluray burner.
In order for it to be useful it would have to be very cheap, like CD, and you know it won't be. It will require a new $250 burner and each disk will cost $75, and 1/3 of the disks you burn won't work.
You could say that about all new tech, however, in due time it gets cheaper.
The trouble is its not happening fast enough thus why old tech hard drives are almost better/cheaper for data storage.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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24. November 2012 @ 23:37 |
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1st dvd burners for computers were $1000+ when they 1st came out, now you can get them for about $30.
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Originally posted by ddp:
1st dvd burners for computers were $1000+ when they 1st came out, now you can get them for about $30.
True but unlike then you have data so large that its out paced disc based consumer development.
If you could get 50 25GB discs for 20$ a year ago there would not be an issue, sadly they are twice to trice that and not coming down any time soon to meet the demands of data hoarders :P.
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25. November 2012 @ 01:06 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
Yeah, I'm thinking "What's the purpose"?
I never even got a Bluray burner.
In order for it to be useful it would have to be very cheap, like CD, and you know it won't be. It will require a new $250 burner and each disk will cost $75, and 1/3 of the disks you burn won't work.
My hope is that the commercial industry will be able to use these to produce full TV seasons of programs on one disc, instead of requiring multiple Blu-rays.
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25. November 2012 @ 08:28 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?
Let's see...a blank bluray costs under a buck for 25GB...so no, flash memory isn't cheap enough...when it costs 2-3 times as much per GB it might be, but with the slow rate of price reduction and the possibility of 1TB+ optical disks, that might be a very long time.
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
My hope is that the commercial industry will be able to use these to produce full TV seasons of programs on one disc, instead of requiring multiple Blu-rays.
I was hoping that for Bluray...at least with older shows. Instead they upscaled everything to BD resolutions so they took just as much space. I'm guessing that these 1TB disks will be useful for 3D UltraHD content...and they will probably just upscale all the old stuff to 3D UltraHD so the 10-disk box set remains 10 disks.
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25. November 2012 @ 09:30 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?
Let's see...a blank bluray costs under a buck for 25GB...so no, flash memory isn't cheap enough...when it costs 2-3 times as much per GB it might be, but with the slow rate of price reduction and the possibility of 1TB+ optical disks, that might be a very long time.
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
My hope is that the commercial industry will be able to use these to produce full TV seasons of programs on one disc, instead of requiring multiple Blu-rays.
I was hoping that for Bluray...at least with older shows. Instead they upscaled everything to BD resolutions so they took just as much space. I'm guessing that these 1TB disks will be useful for 3D UltraHD content...and they will probably just upscale all the old stuff to 3D UltraHD so the 10-disk box set remains 10 disks.
Flash no normal hard drives yes. Still I just do not see the need for a new disc format.
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26. November 2012 @ 11:29 |
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This is about as likely as the commercial sale of CDs & DVDs with more than 1 or 2 layers.
That has been possible for years but nobody ever tried selling them (and the burners etc).
Outside of Japan who bothered with Blu-ray XL?
Hell, look at how Blu-ray as a recordable media has failed to attract users - and so misses out on the economies of scale which would be reflected in blank BD prices, BD 50 prices are laughable nevermind anything larger.
(and in case anyone is wondering I do have a BD burner but hardly ever use it, hard drives are just that much more convenient)
Personally I think optical media is dead, 16gb flash is dirt cheap, 32gb flash is cheap and getting cheaper and even the latest 64gb sticks are rapidly going the same way.
They're just too convenient.
Cheap, physically small, reliable, easy to use & offering huge storage.
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26. November 2012 @ 11:59 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
This is about as likely as the commercial sale of CDs & DVDs with more than 1 or 2 layers.
That has been possible for years but nobody ever tried selling them (and the burners etc).
Outside of Japan who bothered with Blu-ray XL?
Hell, look at how Blu-ray as a recordable media has failed to attract users - and so misses out on the economies of scale which would be reflected in blank BD prices, BD 50 prices are laughable nevermind anything larger.
(and in case anyone is wondering I do have a BD burner but hardly ever use it, hard drives are just that much more convenient)
Personally I think optical media is dead, 16gb flash is dirt cheap, 32gb flash is cheap and getting cheaper and even the latest 64gb sticks are rapidly going the same way.
They're just too convenient.
Cheap, physically small, reliable, easy to use & offering huge storage.
Perhaps but we still have another 10-15 years of normal physical storage for media so we will see at least 1 more optical disc format, maybe even 2 before streaming is the standard delivery method..
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29. November 2012 @ 18:32 |
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Keep the technology comming I say, I said I really wish I could fit a album on one floppy disk. I really wish I could put all my music on one CDR. I really wish I could get a full season on one DVD. I really wish I could get a full HD season on one Blu-Ray. I really wish I could get the complete series on one High Capacity Blu-Ray disk. I really wish I could put the complete series in UltraHD on one FUJIFILM disk..... I really wish I could put the complete interactive series in Holodeck (Star Trek) form on one disk, before I get to old and say thinks like who cares.....
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29. November 2012 @ 19:07 |
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cheap isn't exactly a plus for flash media besides until 64gb can be had for 5 bucks, ill keep archiving to Blue Ray. if i were to back up every thing i own it would be dame near 20 terrabytes at least. that would be a trunk full of flash drives you cant label because there too dame small.
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29. November 2012 @ 19:17 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
cheap isn't exactly a plus for flash media besides until 64gb can be had for 5 bucks, ill keep archiving to Blue Ray. if i were to back up every thing i own it would be dame near 20 terrabytes at least. that would be a trunk full of flash drives you cant label because there too dame small.
128GB flash = 70$
1.25TB Blu ray= 50$
2TB Hard drive= 100$
I like hard drive more >>
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29. November 2012 @ 19:37 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by DXR88:
cheap isn't exactly a plus for flash media besides until 64gb can be had for 5 bucks, ill keep archiving to Blue Ray. if i were to back up every thing i own it would be dame near 20 terrabytes at least. that would be a trunk full of flash drives you cant label because there too dame small.
128GB flash = 70$
1.25TB Blu ray= 50$
2TB Hard drive= 100$
I like hard drive more >>
Harddrives are no good for archiving for long periods of time, there's a reason companies still use tape drives to backup records.
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29. November 2012 @ 20:34 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by DXR88:
cheap isn't exactly a plus for flash media besides until 64gb can be had for 5 bucks, ill keep archiving to Blue Ray. if i were to back up every thing i own it would be dame near 20 terrabytes at least. that would be a trunk full of flash drives you cant label because there too dame small.
128GB flash = 70$
1.25TB Blu ray= 50$
2TB Hard drive= 100$
I like hard drive more >>
Harddrives are no good for archiving for long periods of time, there's a reason companies still use tape drives to backup records.
Meh if you use them as an archive that's rarely used they will last for 10 years or longer. Which is longer than my burnt DVD collection lasted :P
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