Originally posted by DXR88:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by deucezulu22:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by deucezulu22:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?

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What's that suppose to mean?

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Flash memory,ect.

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Alright, but why just end at flash memory when you can make other memory advancements. I rather have all the doors open.

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Ya but blu ray is practically useless for backing up stuff on, so will this new disc system.

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what happens when silicone becomes the next crude oil? we're burning through the stuff just like it. Silicon is the substance that can turn a 3rd world county into a military super power all it needs are the right minds to forge it.

i think we need to stop looking at silicon as a magical way to make electronics, after all piss of the wrong parts of the world and your country may find itself paying 10 grand a kilobyte like its the 1960's.

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Originally posted by robertmro:

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It's a bad idea to develop old technology like this when solid state if the current and more dependable way to go.

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Ya but its costs 12 times more.

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Originally posted by Interestx:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Ya but its costs 12 times more.

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Some drives are expensive but flash sticks & the smaller solid state drives are falling pretty fast.

Ultimately I would expect the manufacturing processes to highly favour solid state (no moving parts & no highly delicate pieces verses a photo etching process which can be done in vast volumes......plus, as danl28 rightly says silicon is one of the most abundant elements on the planet.....oh and last I heard rare earths aren't so rare afterall, it's all about extratcing them as cheaply as possible and right now China is happy to play ball on that one).

The central fact in this remains though, optical media is a dying thing.
Blank disc sales for Blu-ray are not especially impressive - and I'd suggest guaranteed to stay that way as burner prices remain where they are and BD50 prices stay so expensive - I'll conceed BD25 prices can be reasonable, I know I've bought & used them, but set against the last lot of 2tb hard drives I bought there is no comnparison, hard drives all the way..
Blank Blu-ray XL sales are minute and at the prices they expect likely to stay that way too.

A bigger and more expensive disk?
Why would anyone invest in making them on any sort of large scale given the less than impressive recordable Blu-ray performance?

There is no movie boost to using a larger disc, one film in 1080p with lossless audio fits easily on a BD50 - or BD25 - and that is where the home market is likely to be for a very long time to come.
(Daydreams about 4K HD in the mass market included.)

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Originally posted by danl1248:

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by deucezulu22:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by deucezulu22:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?

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What's that suppose to mean?

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Flash memory,ect.

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Alright, but why just end at flash memory when you can make other memory advancements. I rather have all the doors open.

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Ya but blu ray is practically useless for backing up stuff on, so will this new disc system.

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what happens when silicone becomes the next crude oil? we're burning through the stuff just like it. Silicon is the substance that can turn a 3rd world county into a military super power all it needs are the right minds to forge it.

i think we need to stop looking at silicon as a magical way to make electronics, after all piss of the wrong parts of the world and your country may find itself paying 10 grand a kilobyte like its the 1960's.

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But silicon (not silicone) is the second most abundant element on earth. I wouldn't lose any sleep over a shortage of the stuff. Worry about rare earths & helium, if you must worry.

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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Originally posted by danl1248:

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by deucezulu22:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by deucezulu22:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?

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What's that suppose to mean?

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Flash memory,ect.

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Alright, but why just end at flash memory when you can make other memory advancements. I rather have all the doors open.

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Ya but blu ray is practically useless for backing up stuff on, so will this new disc system.

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what happens when silicone becomes the next crude oil? we're burning through the stuff just like it. Silicon is the substance that can turn a 3rd world county into a military super power all it needs are the right minds to forge it.

i think we need to stop looking at silicon as a magical way to make electronics, after all piss of the wrong parts of the world and your country may find itself paying 10 grand a kilobyte like its the 1960's.

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But silicon (not silicone) is the second most abundant element on earth. I wouldn't lose any sleep over a shortage of the stuff. Worry about rare earths & helium, if you must worry.

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abundance doesn't matter, what does matter is the rate of consumption. gold and oil used to be abundant too, now we squabble and murder each other over the stuff.

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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Originally posted by danl1248:

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by deucezulu22:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by deucezulu22:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Why? Is not silicone cheap enough?

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What's that suppose to mean?

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Flash memory,ect.

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Alright, but why just end at flash memory when you can make other memory advancements. I rather have all the doors open.

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Ya but blu ray is practically useless for backing up stuff on, so will this new disc system.

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what happens when silicone becomes the next crude oil? we're burning through the stuff just like it. Silicon is the substance that can turn a 3rd world county into a military super power all it needs are the right minds to forge it.

i think we need to stop looking at silicon as a magical way to make electronics, after all piss of the wrong parts of the world and your country may find itself paying 10 grand a kilobyte like its the 1960's.

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But silicon (not silicone) is the second most abundant element on earth. I wouldn't lose any sleep over a shortage of the stuff. Worry about rare earths & helium, if you must worry.

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abundance doesn't matter, what does matter is the rate of consumption. gold and oil used to be abundant too, now we squabble and murder each other over the stuff.

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Ya but neither were as abundant as silicone and at the rate stuff gets tossed/recycled I think we should be fine till nano carbon stuff takes off. ^^

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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cheap isn't exactly a plus for flash media besides until 64gb can be had for 5 bucks, ill keep archiving to Blue Ray. if i were to back up every thing i own it would be dame near 20 terrabytes at least. that would be a trunk full of flash drives you cant label because there too dame small.

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128GB flash = 70$
1.25TB Blu ray= 50$
2TB Hard drive= 100$

I like hard drive more >>

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Harddrives are no good for archiving for long periods of time, there's a reason companies still use tape drives to backup records.

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Meh if you use them as an archive that's rarely used they will last for 10 years or longer. Which is longer than my burnt DVD collection lasted :P

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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:

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i tryed a music cd otherday it was a copied cd from 2001 (its actually the album ma$e double up).it wasnt skipping much but it was distorted.made like a crackling sound when it was playing.

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