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Magicman7
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17. July 2004 @ 11:58 |
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I have recently purchased a DVD burner and now attempting to make 1st back up movie dvd copy. I have read threads and software guides before I finally posted this. I attempted to first to use shrink to reduce and edit files to reach the 4.7 dvd capacity. Shrink analysis went good however when attempting to encode and send to decrypter for burn (as option on shrink)my computer shuts off. I am using a ancient system as shown in signature. I then used decrypter to save files onto hard drive but shrink would not open files. Now using decrypter to save image of file and now to the question... Will Shrink allow you to recognize, open, and shrink the size of a image from decrypter???
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karen2003
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17. July 2004 @ 12:07 |
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You should be able to use the option to open a disc image in Shrink -- go to "File" and then choose "Open Disc Image" and point it to the .iso file that you saved in Decrypter. I've never done it this way, but I assume it works the same as usual after it finds the .iso file. If you want to burn with Decrypter, make sure Shrink makes another, compressed .iso file because Decrypter doesn't burn <video_ts> folders.
A word of warning, though -- with your system, you're going to run into serious space problems. Also if your hard drive is formatted FAT32, which it may very well be on your system, you won't be able to have files larger than 4gb, which is smaller than Shrink makes them by default. I wonder if that's why you're getting errors? Is there any way you could add another hard drive to your system?
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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karen2003
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17. July 2004 @ 12:09 |
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P.S. If you have both the original .iso file from Decrypter PLUS you're trying to have Shrink compress it, well, you're already using ALL your hard drive's free capacity if all you have is 10gb left!!
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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Magicman7
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17. July 2004 @ 12:24 |
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Im going to update my signature... I created account/sig yesterday and have made changes to system... I made back up copy of my D: drive using burner and completely formatted drive and used ntfs file system... So now I do have 20G hard drive and ntfs... using 2000 also... So basically I will be able to use shrink to compress and delete files from image made with decrypter - then I will use shrink to make a second compresed image which is where I had original problem in the encoding process... I really need to figure this out or hopefully shrink will work since I deactivated make low priority... closed all programs and have my max drive space... one more question while suing the k62 processor it takes me like 1hour+ to take off the rce protection and make files on hard drive... Im sure it will take another hour+ to burn... How fast can a p4 do the job?
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karen2003
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17. July 2004 @ 12:51 |
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With my computer set-up (described in my signature), on a DVD-5 (non-dual-layer store-bought DVD) it takes Shrink 5 to 10 minutes to rip/encode and it takes my burner a maximum of 15 minutes to burn (that's with 4x discs -- with the 2.4x discs I used to have, it took 25 minutes). So a total of <25 minutes start to finish. On a DVD-9 (dual-layer store-bought DVD), I often rip to my hard drive with Decrypter, then have Shrink "open files" instead of "open disc" -- this was just to save wear & tear on my DVD burner, but since I just bought a DVD-ROM reader, I might not need to do this any more. Anyway, depending on how large the original DVD is, it can take Shrink 10-20 minutes to encode if I'm not having it do deep analysis; but whenever the compression level goes below 90%, I have Shrink do deep analysis because the final quality is so much better, especially on heavily compressed movies (I have great back-ups with 50% compression, all because of having Shrink do the deep analysis -- I can't tell the difference between the original and my back-up on my 27" and 32" TVs). When Shrink does deep analysis, it takes a lot longer -- usually around an hour total, but if the original DVD is very large (say, 8-9gb) AND I'm multi-tasking (word processing seems to affect it the most), it can take 2 to 2-1/2 hours. Then add 15 minutes to burn.
As for your procedure, sounds like it can work even on a cramped hard drive. You'll definitely have to keep ripping, then burning, then deleting the burned files. I like to rip a bunch of DVDs one after another, then burn them one after another, then delete all the files, but I had to buy a new hard drive to be able to do this.
Anyway keep us posted & come back with any questions!
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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brobear
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18. July 2004 @ 02:44 |
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To the problem of Magicman7. You are recording at the bare minimum and possibly below in concern to system resources. So it will be a slow bumpy road. I often say to have 10 to 15GB HD space free for DVD recording with the high figure best. In my book, 1GHz CPU is as low as a user should go for DVD video recording. But, we use what we have. However software producers say a minimum of 500 MHz and 128 MB of RAM with 10 GB free HD space. 256 should be the min RAM, and preferrably 500 MB or better. Most older PCs only go to 512MB.
As for a DVD9 dual layer disc. They are expensive, might as well buy 2 copies of the movie. Until they get the price down, only the rich are going to play with those. With the dual layer you only need to rip and use a burner program to record. Have to have a dual layer burner and software though.
The 4.7GB DVD5 is what everyone is useing, thus the need for transcoding programs to shrink the content to fit. BTW a 4.7 only holds about 4.3GB.
Another little recognized problem is the file system. Older units had FAT32 while the new has NTFS (New Technology File System). Self explanatory. File size is limited in FAT32 and the files are large for Video, especially in ISO. So ISO is not a good rip choice for older systems. The new Shrink 3.2 (not out yet) may help with split ISO.
About HDs, older systems can only handle a 137 GB partition. A larger HD has to be partitioned to this size or below. A 200GB would have to be partitioned to something like 2 100GB partitions. The new XP (with SP1) requires more system resources, but can handle the larger HDs. One of my drives is a newer 250GB unit with a single partition. And the only half full part is a myth. Just leave enough free space for the programming to work.
The min speed for recording is a HD at 5400 rpm. 7500 is preferred and 10,000 rpm is very good.
To lighten the load on the system it is probably best to do one function at a time. So using DVD Decrypter to rip is probably best. Rip in File Mode. Then use Shrink to transcode the file and let Nero burn.
Anybody saying Shrink does a good job at 50%, I want to see the disk. Every one I've done in testing looks somewhat fuzzy and at low magnification the pixels are distorted and they really come apart in action scenes. 30% and below will give a decent picture. 20% is where most users switch to a more elaborate encoding process using a program like CCE. CCE Basic is affordable at $58. There are some freeware programs to. It just takes more time and more buttons to push for the better quality.
Now to a word or two on ripping. For editing one normally uses DVD Decrypter in the File mode. With DVD Shrink you would choose Open Files.
When ripping with ISO files you get an ISO file (whole movie) and an MDS file. The MDS is used for recording by the transcoding program. An emulator program such as the free Daemon is used to load the program. A simulated ROM drive is created and you choose Open Disc with Shrink and open the simulated drive as you would a real one. Thats how you load an ISO. Most programs recognize a Video_TS folder with files or a disc drive, not an ISO file unless loaded in an emulator. You have to make the programs think the ISO is a disc in a drive.
Using the Shrink program you have the choice of creating an ISO image to the HD. With the trancoded ISO you can use DVD Decrypter to burn. So, there are different ways to use ISO.
Trying to use a computer while doing video recording is just asking for problems. Everyone who knows much about the process kicks in the record and walks away. All programs running in the background should be turned off and disconnect from the net.
Good luck with the recording. As I said, with low resources, keep the processes as isolated as possible. Rip in the file mode to keep from having file size problems. And remember to clear memory and make sure you have all the free space you can.
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karen2003
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18. July 2004 @ 02:59 |
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OK Brobear, since I was the only one who answered Magicman7, you must think that I "threw him a load"??? What on earth are you talking about? Everything I wrote, I have done many many times (and I learned how to do them from these forums!!).
You mentioned dual-layer DVDs to burn with -- I did not talk about them at all. "Dual-layer store-bought DVD" means just that -- a DVD like in the "West Wing" series or a lot of movies that are DVD-9's and so won't fit on one disc without compression. I'm not telling him to go buy a dual-layer disc (he doesn't have a dual-layer burner!!) and I don't think he took it that way.
Please tell me what you think I told Magicman7 wrong.
He asked how long the process was on a p4 system, which he saw I had in my signature line, and I told him, and I just re-read my posts and there's nothing in there that's incorrect. I'm always willing to learn, but geez, to tell him he "got such a load thrown at him" and write, sarcastically, "Boy, some of the things you hear nowadays" in your opening line -- what the hell did I do to deserve such rudeness? Sounds like you just took my "store-bought DVD" to mean I was telling him to go buy dual-layer discs for his nonexistent dual-layer burner? That's not what I said or meant.
Correct me when I'm wrong, but don't be so arrogant and rude as to "correct" me when you've misunderstood something I wrote.
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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karen2003
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18. July 2004 @ 03:11 |
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P.S. Regarding Shrink looking good at 50% (using deep analysis, as I originally wrote) -- as lots of people have pointed out on these forums, how a compressed picture looks is very subjective. Some have pointed out that they put 2 or 3 movies on one DVD-R disc (compressing each movie twice in Shrink and doing the deep analysis both times) and it looks fine to them even on a big-screen TV. I told Magicman7 that at 50% compression, the DVD-R's (actually DVD+R's in my case) look great to me on my 27" and 32" TVs -- which they do. It's perfectly fine for you to disagree with me on this, but he asked for my experience and I told him. And several on these forums would agree with me on that too. YOU don't have to, obviously.
And notice how I didn't write "Magicman7, ignore Brobear, he's throwing you a load" with either of my replies to you. :-)
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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brobear
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18. July 2004 @ 03:43 |
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DVD-9: One form of DVD discs that means a single-sided dual-layer DVD disc. DVD-9 can hold approximately 7.95 gigabytes of data, even though marketers like to use the 8.5GB value instead, but this is misleading and is calculated by using so-called "Japanese gigabytes" which means that gigabyte is calculated as 1,000 megabytes, but in real computer terminology, gigabyte is 1,024 megabytes.
Just so that is clear about the definition and what a disc will hold.
You did not bring the dual format recording up. Your assisting Newbies is admirable.
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colw
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18. July 2004 @ 04:01 |
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Brobear - just an observation.
I use a fairly low end system - p3-800, 256ram, Win2000 (kept lean and mean).
Use DVD Shrink and Nero for most compilations - (DVD DeCryptor as backup or experimentiation).
With Shrink without Deep Analysis I can normally rip and encode most movies in less than 30 minutes - sometimes 15 or less.
Burning time with Nero is generally 13 to 15 minutes.
Do not use deep analysis as I have not found it it necessary - with over 300 succesful burns, I have not found it necessary and movie quality is great.
With a clean, lean machine and reasonable media, DVD burning is a very simple, uncomplicated process.
Unfortunate that many Newbies do not read the guides or use the search function before encountering problems.
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brobear
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18. July 2004 @ 04:05 |
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In DVD Shrink under File on the tool bar the option Open Disc Image will use an ISO file stored on the HD. Shrink will not use Disc to pick up an ISO file unless it is loaded in an emulator. Shrink will write an ISO image which can be burned by DVD Decrypter in ISO Write mode.
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karen2003
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18. July 2004 @ 04:19 |
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Hi Brobear, I didn't get "in a huff" (hmmm, if I were a guy would that expression even be used?). FYI, I am anal about keeping records and so I keep detailed records of the time it takes to back up each DVD (in an Excel spreadsheet, no less). So the times I gave Magicman7 were correct -- they were right out of my spreadsheets.
Just as examples -- yesterday I backed up "The Deep End of the Ocean" -- it was only 3,938mb so didn't need any compression and it took Shrink 6 minutes and 10 seconds to do the ripping/encoding, then it took RecordNow 14 minutes to burn. Total time 20 minutes and 10 seconds. I also backed up a CSI multi-episode disc that was 7,844mb and DID require compression at 57.0%. I had Shrink do a deep analysis on that one and it took 1 hour, 40 minutes, then 15 minutes to burn, total 1 hour and 55 minutes. BTW, since I replaced my USB 1.1 connection with USB 2.0, 1:55 is about the max the process takes even with deep analysis, unless I'm doing lots of multi-tasking at the same time.
And the two I did yesterday, I didn't rip to my hard drive first with Decrypter since I wanted to try out my new DVD-ROM drive. But even when I HAVE taken that extra step, the whole process only increases by 10-20 minutes max as Decrypter copies the files to the hard drive really fast.
BTW, all I was doing was replying to a specific question that Magicman7 asked about how long the process took with a P4 computer, which he saw I had from my signature line. And I just re-read the times I reported and they were correct -- no typos.
I'm sure you know all systems work differently -- I didn't think mine was working all that fast, given some times that others have reported. Maybe yours is just slower than mine for some reason -- although your system is much more advanced. But the speeds I quoted were correct.
One last thing -- if I used incorrect terminology when I wrote "store-bought DVD" to refer to, um, store-bought DVDs like "CSI" or "The Deep End of the Ocean," then I stand corrected.
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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karen2003
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18. July 2004 @ 04:24 |
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P.S. I NEVER multi-task while burning, only sometimes while ripping/encoding (which increases times). You're right, it might have sounded like I was saying I multi-task while burning.
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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You appear to know what you're doing. Are you doing movie only or are you copying the whole disk? Times are affected by the size of the file to be ripped and encoded. The use of deep analysis is also a factor in the time as you are aware. Anything over 10% compression and deep analysis needs to be used for better quality. One can record at higher levels without deep analysis and get a watchable video. I'm talking about quality resembling the original. BTW, none of the transcoder programs available can be as good as the original. CCE comes closer, but that is a complicated program that takes a fair amount of system resources and times are in the hours usually.
An uncluttered computer always works better than a handicapped one, so keep it lean and mean.
Good luck and good burning.
Just so you know. The version 3.2 of DVD Shrink should be out soon. They're still tweaking it. It is supposed to be friendlier to older systems. It also has some quality settings that make it better for use with the larger movies in the 6 to 7GB range.
The Beta I have did okay at 40%, but at 50% under light magnification the pixels were noticably flickering and the condition in action scenes were worse. Shrink is friendlier to problems and not as visible to the naked eye. What appears as a fuzzy video would break up on another program.
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Karen,
It is not even a good idea to multi-task while ripping. Programs can change system requirements and affect the rip. Word processing might not be so bad, but a lot of programs aren't so light in demand. It is really best for superior results to just leave the PC be when it is doing the video recording process.
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karen2003
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18. July 2004 @ 04:39 |
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I guess what I objected to was being told I was giving someone "a load." I WAS the only one who had responded to Magicman7 at the time you first responded, so your post about "a load" did seem directed at me (or my posts). And you edited your original post to write "no way" about my times (and yes, that seems rude to me too) -- but my times WERE correct, as hopefully you've seen now with my later posts. I don't know why my system works faster than yours. Given our specs, it shouldn't.
RE: multi-tasking while ripping/encoding -- I'll keep that in mind, I had no idea ripping/encoding was sensitive like burning. I have another computer that I sometimes use while my main computer is doing video-related stuff, but my main files are on my main computer and it's a pain to keep moving them.
I HAVE read posts about Shrink not being great with high levels of compression. That just hasn't been my experience. I suspect that I am less picky than some. You specifically mentioned an action movie showing high levels of pixelation etc. with high compression in Shrink. Maybe the high quality I have noticed has been the result of my DVDs not having lots of action like LoTR & the like. I haven't yet backed up "The Matrix," for example -- maybe that back-up will be less successful (i.e., lower quality) because the original has so much action.
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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karen2003
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I don't know if this makes a difference, but I have DVD43 running too, which means the discs come up "not encrypted" when I open Shrink or Decrypter (I assume because DVD43 has decrypted them). But the times I stated ARE correct, as I've said how many times now?
You DO have me curious as to why my rip/encode times are better than yours when you have a better computer. But my times are obviously not impossible because I'm getting them; I log in my spreadsheet the exact time that Shrink (or Decrypter) gives me as their time to finish.
Yes, some of the DVDs are short, e.g. one of them that I did yesterday (and that I mentioned in an earlier post), "The Deep End of the Ocean," came up as just 4,033mb in Decrypter. I closed Decrypter, opened Shrink, took out any files I didn't need (e.g., French subtitles or whatever -- I don't log this info in my spreadsheet), and Shrink ripped/encoded the now-3,939mb DVD to my hard drive in 6 minutes, 10 seconds. But as I wrote in my 8:19 a.m. post, yesterday I also did a CSI multi-episode disc that came up as 7,844mb yesterday and it took much longer. So of course it depends on the original disc. Are you saying you never get rip/encode times below, say, 10 minutes even on DVD-5's? (Another piece of info, if it helps -- I didn't log this yesterday, but today when I was backing up another short DVD, the rip time in Shrink went to just under 13,000kb/s. So yes, it's going very very fast. That was in my new DVD-ROM drive if that makes a difference.
You wrote, "Do you want me to get ddlooping, who works closely in the development of DVD Shrink and writes guides for it, to come to this thread and say you can't do a normally encrypted disc in the times you stated." Um, are you saying I'm making this up? Why on earth would I do that? I'm just reporting the times I get. They MUST be possible because I'm getting them. And I can't be the only one.
As I said, you DO have me curious as to why my rip/encode times on DVD-5's are so fast, so yes, please check with others so we can get some explanation (if there is one). But I also find it a little, I don't know, bothersome that you seem to be having such a hard time believing my times. Just because your system is different, doesn't mean my times are impossible.
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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Here is how you use Shrink and Burn with Decryter using the ISO file method. The guides are here at AD and additional info can be found at Doom9.org and DVDShrink.info.
With DVD Shrink:
Choose what you are going to rip.
Under Edit > Preference > File I/O uncheck Enable burning with Nero. Click OK to close window.
Click Backup.
In Backup DVD window > Target Device choose ISO Disc Image under Select Target Device. That sends the ISO to the hard drive. Keep track of where the PC sends the file. Either create a folder and browse (click little folder icons to browse) to send it there or note the location. You have to find it in DVD Decrypter.
If all went well there is an ISO image on the HD. Open DVD Decrypter and choose ISO Write under Mode. Locate the file (click little folder icons to browse) With a disc in drive and burner drive selected and burn checked, Hit the button, take a break and let it burn.
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With that Magicman7 has the info and should be able to make his own decisions.
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Forgot. If you have Roxio and the Drag to Disk, exit when you use a DVD recording program. Also, use a RW disc to save wasting your + or -R discs, you may or may not be able to view RW on your home entertainment center, but it will play on the PC to let you know you have the process right.
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18. July 2004 @ 08:34 |
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Sorry Brobear, but you misunderstood again (and I apologize if I wasn't clear). Lately, I've been opening Decrypter JUST TO SEE HOW BIG THE DVD'S ARE. Since I don't know enough about .bup, .ifo, .VOB files etc., I don't know how to get rid of audio files I don't need (e.g. subtitles in languages I don't speak), so I don't use Decrypter for ANYTHING except checking the DVD size. I then close Decrypter, open Shrink, and use it to rip/encode.
Again, to clarify, when I say I use Decrypter, it's open for about 5 seconds. I DON'T USE it to rip/encode, I just use it to check the DVD size.
You asked, "How long does it take to Decrypt the file with DVD Decrypter before you import the file to DVD Shrink?" The answer is zero seconds because Decrypter isn't decrypting anything, it's just giving me a piece of info. So no, I'm NOT "using a pre-ripped short file that doesn't have to be compressed." The times I gave don't include Decrypter decrypting times because Decrypter isn't decrypting. If you want to add the 5 seconds that it took for me to see how big the file was, which was my only reason for opening Decrypter, then OK, add those 5 seconds.
In the past, before I got my DVD-ROM reader, I used to sometimes have Decrypter copy all the files to my hard drive and then I would use Shrink to compress those files. This was, as I said in an earlier post, to save wear and tear on my DVD burner. But now that I have my DVD-ROM drive, I don't have to do this.
RE: DVD43, I got it because several people on these forums recommended it for the odd case that Shrink or Decrypter can't open. Maybe you don't like it, OK, that's your choice.
Um, I don't need to go back and read the guide, why are you telling me that? Actually why has this thing gotten you so angry at me? Someone asked me about my times, I told him, you wrote "no way" and have now posted how many times basically telling me you don't believe my times. This is just bizarre. Systems work differently, mine seems to be faster than yours for some reason. Go figure. I have no idea why. But this isn't a contest to see who can rip/encode/burn the fastest.
You wrote, "This is a futile attempt by you to defend what you said." Huh??? Again, why are you so angry? I have nothing to defend, I'm not defending anything. I DO understand the methods and terminology, thanks to everything I've learned in these forums the past few months. I didn't tell Magicman7 anything incorrect (except maybe the .iso thing, but I specifically wrote that I hadn't ever done it that way).
So, to summarize, the times that I wrote are correct, unless you want to add the 5 seconds it takes for me to check how big the DVD is in Decrypter. (Maybe I can check the size in Shrink too -- Decrypter just shows it clearly down at the bottom, so that's why I've used it.) I'm NOT ripping and re-ripping. My system just seems to be faster than yours. Again, I don't know why. I also don't know why it matters and why you've gotten so angry?
You wrote, "You did succeed in explaining why your times were faster than mine, you didn't add up all the time from first starting with the disk until you got the finished product. You ripped and then reripped and encoded from the HD, which is a redundant process and you didn't count the first rip." No, I didn't rip and re-rip. I guess I wasn't clear enough for you to understand and I do apologize for that. And you wrote, "Or so you said as I quoted, or do you want to change that now." No, I'm not changing anything. You misunderstood. My times are my times, plus 5 seconds if you wish.
Brobear, why on earth are you so angry???? Would someone else please jump in and let me know if there's something I've done that I should apologize for? I've never gotten anyone else on these boards so angry so I'm at a bit of a loss.
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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