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backing up a pc game takes a really long time, why?
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18. July 2004 @ 11:27 |
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When I try to back-up my PC GAMES using A120% or BlindWrite and even CloneCD it takes a really long time. for instance, it (the pc game) was writing the image for 45min and it was only 1% done with A120% so I gave up, it also does this with BW anc CloneCD.
I have a pioneer 107d which is a 1 sheep burner and a IDE DVD-ROM
OH the game Im trying to back up is "BATTLEFIELD 1942"
THANKS TO ALL THAT RESPONDS!
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19. July 2004 @ 20:10 |
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I read this on BlindWrite:
Q : The extraction is SOOOO slow !
A : Some CDs contains bad sectors ( in purpose or not ) and the hardware used may do a big differences. There is no rules, but most of times the slow read will occurs on the first beginning part of the media, once this 5% percent of media extracted, the speed should be back to normal .. so patience, or try with different cd / dvd readers or writers to find one who manages the errors with a good speed.
Hope this help's Good luck!!
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19. July 2004 @ 20:31 |
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how much memory do you have
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20. July 2004 @ 05:09 |
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This isnt exactly the thread i wanted to post this in but its recent and goes with the topic so here it goes.
Ok so I was wondering why i couldnt seem to backup any of the games I have with the Safedisc 2 protection on them so I read some posts and found out that really what I need is a 2-sheep burner. I saw a post with a list of burners that are 2-sheep but when i went to www.newegg.com to see if I could buy one of these I couldnt find any burners on that list. Could someone please tell me where I can buy a 2-sheep burner and which one it is? Thanks
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20. July 2004 @ 06:02 |
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I have 512k of ram and 120gig of hard drive, but that shouldn't cause it to be slow, I can copy a dvd movie and audio cd's with out a problem and speed process is really fast, but not with pc games.
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20. July 2004 @ 06:14 |
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hey -legacy784- I beleive Plextor PX-708A is a 2sheep burner
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20. July 2004 @ 20:05 |
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OK I copied BF1942 in 2hrs 10min and 36sec. to AL120% image making wizard, it was a 750mb disc WOW! but I havn't burned yet, I also burned another game that was 330mb and that took 45min to burn to AL120% image making wizard (also havnt burnd that yet either) but they play on my virtual drive very well.
Will burn at a later time.
P.S. as the girls say, SIZE MATTERS ;)
Regards: Vanessa
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20. July 2004 @ 21:01 |
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It sounds like Battlefield 1942 is Safedisc 2/3. :p Anyways, if you got a DVD-ROM use that with Alcohol, it took me about 10 minutes to backup my Safedisc 2/3 version of Painkiller. :p
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21. July 2004 @ 05:58 |
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how many MB is painkiller, anyway's Im not gonna delete the image until I burn, then Ill retry to use my pioneer to see the difference in the speed between both.
What drives do you wotk with?
Regards to all: Vanessa
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IAIHMB
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21. July 2004 @ 06:16 |
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My DVD-ROM and writer is a HP DVD Writer 400c. It seems like DVD-ROMs usually read faster and more accurately than CD-ROMs. :P The Painkiller play disc is around 650MB.
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21. July 2004 @ 06:54 |
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legacy784 most lite on CD burners will do most (not all but most copy protection out there) I personally like to make back ups of all the PC games I purchase because of some bad experiences I had lately.
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21. July 2004 @ 07:07 |
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Manners when you try to copy your pc game do you use clonyxxl to tell you what settings to set clone cd at before you try to read the game to the harddrive ? with pc games you have to set clone cd to skip bad secctors etc its been a wile since i backed any up so cant remember it all plus my cd rom was shit at trying to read games to the harddrive had same problem has you took ages have to use my sons pc he"s got a toshiba cd rom top bullocks at reading disk"s try clonyxxl first to make sure you"ve got clone cd set up correct..
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21. July 2004 @ 07:39 |
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@IAIHMB, I used my dvd-rom to copy this game but still took 2hrs, but it worked.
@killalot don't know if I should trust someone with a name like that (just kidding, don't get madd) I don't have clonyxxl is it free? I have more time than money, but will check into it.
Regards once again: assenaV
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21. July 2004 @ 07:46 |
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If the game is Safedisc 2/3 it will always take a long time to copy, and in some drives the original disk won't even play. Search for "Painkiller Copy Protection" and you will find some horror stories. :P
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21. July 2004 @ 07:48 |
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Yes its free not sure were you get it from and the name Killalot my lad made me have it, its of Robot Wars good program ok
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21. July 2004 @ 10:20 |
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He MADEyou have that name? very demanding friend.
Is Robot Wars game?
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22. July 2004 @ 06:51 |
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Are you from the U.S.A Manners if yes Robot Wars is a tv program same as Battle Bots i think its called that over in a America its where Robots fight it out in a arena ok.............
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22. July 2004 @ 19:22 |
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I am from the US and I have seen the show ok.....
I havnt seen the show in long time though.
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22. July 2004 @ 19:58 |
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For SafeDisc protected games it may help to speed things up by enabling "fast error skip" with Alcohol 120% :)
I just did Painkiller using both my Plextor Premium and PX-708A with BlindWrite 5 (my preferred program).
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22. July 2004 @ 20:19 |
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this is a test
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22. July 2004 @ 20:23 |
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test
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23. July 2004 @ 06:27 |
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I think I have "fast error skip" enabled. I will have to check, I just dont want to wait another 2hrs. But if it must be done in the name of science then it must be done.
I will check back in and see if it was any faster.
regards: Vanessa
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23. July 2004 @ 10:28 |
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I just read back through the thread and need to clarify a couple things.
The whole peocess of backing up a PC game takes well over two hours no matter which program you use, correct?
But you can back up DVD movies in the normal amount of time (30-45 minutes for the rip/compress and 15 minutes to burn)?
With the PC games, is there a time difference between using the ROM or burner when ripping?
Just to cover basics, is DMA enabled for both the drive? I imagine it is if backing up DVDs goes fine but you never know.
Any packet writing apps such as InCD, DLA or Drag To Disc installed? Again, it's a long shot since the DVD process goes fine.
Are you using the default settings in A120/BW5/Clone when backing up your games?
What is the specific make/model of your ROM? The main page for the Copy Wizard in A120 should list it.
If you plan on regularly backing up PC games I'd highly suggest adding a good 2-sheep burner to your arsenal for the simple fact that it is becoming near impossible to dupe the newer protections with a 1-sheep burner anymore. The Lite-On 52327S and the Asus 5232AS are both very competent 2-sheep burners and can be had for around $30 apiece. If you want the best out there the Plextor Premium ($80 but so worth it) is arguably the best drive out there for backing up PC games - it has a special write method that does a sublime job on SecuRom backups and this write method is supported in BW5 (using BW5 Tweaker).
Here's a link to BW5 Tweaker and A-Ray Scanner (the best scanner out there now):
http://www.aray-software.com/
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23. July 2004 @ 14:37 |
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yes it took 2hrs with AL120% for 750mb BF1942 but with the other programs I didn't let it finish since BlindWrite was at 1.5% around an hour.
I can back up movies with ease in reasonable time frame, 30-45 min, whole process.
Ive noticed the pioneer was faster than my dvd-rom when being ripped so I think I'll stick with that.
The bases are loaded with DMA enabled (can't say that with the Diamonbacks)
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Any packet writing apps such as InCD, DLA or Drag To Disc installed
Nope! should I have somthing like this?
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Are you using the default settings in A120/BW5/Clone when backing up your games?
yes I am using the default setting
1.Skip reading errors. checked
2.Fast skipp error blocks. checked
rest are unchecked with image making wizard AL120%
BW I have touched nothing. BW tweaker I will check out
As for my dvd-rom it say's IDE DVD-ROM 16x(2.0)
Like I said before "More time than money"
Regards: Vanessa
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23. July 2004 @ 14:58 |
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If you are using Alcohol 120% use the Safedisc 2/3 profile. After about 6% you won't get anymore bad sector errors and all will be good. :P
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