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Bloomberg: Upcoming Xbox to use custom AMD processor
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article published on 8 April, 2013
Microsoft will use an AMD processor in its upcoming Xbox console, say sources, allowing the company to keep costs lower and giving developers an easier way to create games.
The Wii U and the upcoming PlayStation 4 both use AMD chips.
Reports claim the "Xbox will use an AMD system-on-a-chip that combines powerful "Jaguar" central processing units with graphics chips," moving away from ... [ read the full article ]
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10. April 2013 @ 18:26 |
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Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by Mysttic:
I look at the issue of no backwards compatibility as this: if it allows developers to orient on deving for PC games foremost and first to then be able to port over to a console version; I would presume it's a lot easier to dumb down a game than it is to have to program different variants of your code to have it compatible across all platforms. That will make the PC gaming market dominate again, and we won't be left with crappy ports with little heart waiting months for fixes leaving a sour taste in our mouths as we move on to PC exclusive titles. Don't get me wrong tho, I love my console gaming, it's no secret I a huge collector: but I think Sony and MS switch to x86 architecture was a very smart move. Too bad it's not 64-bit, but understandable when the majority of households are still using x86 PCs. Let this trend continue going to consoles forward and it'll be easier to be backward compatible for future generations to come.
The AMD APU being used is a 64bit processor. Not sure if operating systems to be used for those consoles is 64bit or not but the processor is capable of it.
As far as your other points about making it easier to port over games from PC I totally agree but still think if they are going to make this drastic change they should offer some good incentives to people that have a huge game library of the previous console. After all they will be saving all this money and time not having recode games for each console right?
So far the rumors have been $80 games and possibly always-on DRM...sounds like a great set of incentives!
If that is true then it means they are not passing on the cost savings to the customers that come from unifying the chip architecture to X86
Obviously...they do not specialize in passing savings along to begin with. After all, they charge $60 for XboX360 games...and the PC versions that are getting fewer sales go for $20-$40. Heck, I got Hitman Absolution, plus all the DLCs, plus sniper challenge, plus 3 other games for $35 on PC when Hitman Absolution by itself was selling for $60 on the 360!
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10. April 2013 @ 19:01 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Obviously...they do not specialize in passing savings along to begin with. After all, they charge $60 for XboX360 games...and the PC versions that are getting fewer sales go for $20-$40. Heck, I got Hitman Absolution, plus all the DLCs, plus sniper challenge, plus 3 other games for $35 on PC when Hitman Absolution by itself was selling for $60 on the 360!
Which is exactly why I am seriously considering abandoning XBOX all together. I really do not play the exclusives from any console aside from Nintendo and the games I do play are for PC anyway. Gaming PC connected to my TV seems the way to go.
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10. April 2013 @ 19:27 |
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Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Obviously...they do not specialize in passing savings along to begin with. After all, they charge $60 for XboX360 games...and the PC versions that are getting fewer sales go for $20-$40. Heck, I got Hitman Absolution, plus all the DLCs, plus sniper challenge, plus 3 other games for $35 on PC when Hitman Absolution by itself was selling for $60 on the 360!
Which is exactly why I am seriously considering abandoning XBOX all together. I really do not play the exclusives from any console aside from Nintendo and the games I do play are for PC anyway. Gaming PC connected to my TV seems the way to go.
I switched to PC-only about 18 months ago and don't regret it at all. I've got a nice 40" LED TV that serves good for both gaming and general use (I sit rather close...so it looks like a big screen to me). I prefer mouse and keyboard, but I also have my DS3 hooked up, as well as a racing wheel. Sometimes I miss GT5, but the last time I missed it enough to hook up the PS3, I only played for about an hour before I got bored of playing a game I had already beaten. The only real test I see coming is the new Grand Theft Auto...Rockstar is famous for delaying PC releases, sometimes not releasing for PC at all. But hey, that is a PS3/360 game, so it has nothing to do with the next gen!
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11. April 2013 @ 01:38 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Obviously...they do not specialize in passing savings along to begin with. After all, they charge $60 for XboX360 games...and the PC versions that are getting fewer sales go for $20-$40. Heck, I got Hitman Absolution, plus all the DLCs, plus sniper challenge, plus 3 other games for $35 on PC when Hitman Absolution by itself was selling for $60 on the 360!
Which is exactly why I am seriously considering abandoning XBOX all together. I really do not play the exclusives from any console aside from Nintendo and the games I do play are for PC anyway. Gaming PC connected to my TV seems the way to go.
I switched to PC-only about 18 months ago and don't regret it at all. I've got a nice 40" LED TV that serves good for both gaming and general use (I sit rather close...so it looks like a big screen to me). I prefer mouse and keyboard, but I also have my DS3 hooked up, as well as a racing wheel. Sometimes I miss GT5, but the last time I missed it enough to hook up the PS3, I only played for about an hour before I got bored of playing a game I had already beaten. The only real test I see coming is the new Grand Theft Auto...Rockstar is famous for delaying PC releases, sometimes not releasing for PC at all. But hey, that is a PS3/360 game, so it has nothing to do with the next gen!
I'll bet my bum that any GTA will eventually come out on PC. We all know that the console manufacturers do deals to make first sales and that won't stop anytime soon..
I'm with you guys, there may be a resurgence in PC gaming as far as I can tell. Somebody I know who was a diehard xbox fan has asked me to build a gaming HTPC mATX rig for him rather than buying the new xbox. He has a kickass 1080p projector... awesome, take my word for it.
Even the crew at Good Game claim they are still PC snobs at heart.
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11. April 2013 @ 04:38 |
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This 'always on' stuff is a funny one.
I don't think Microsoft are going to cut themselves off from every potential gaming owner without a net connection or who have poor ones.
Much more likely is the explanation I read yesterday.
It's to do with the next Xbox having expanded TV set-top box functions too.
That part will need a net connection at least some of the time.
This is a far more plausible explanation than the frankly ridiculous nonsense being spread about 'always on'.
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