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IDC: PC shipments see biggest decline, ever

article published on 10 April, 2013

IDC has released some shocking figures for the PC industry. According to the research firm, PC shipments fell 14 percent in the Q1, the biggest drop on record. Global units shipped fell to 76.3 million, almost double the drop IDC was expecting. For the most part, consumers completely ignored Windows 8, instead opting for smartphones and tablets. Enterprise customers chose to stick ... [ read the full article ]

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Mez
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13. April 2013 @ 08:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Jemborg, Apple used to have about 1-2% of the market and now it is doubled! That is a blazing comeback but their market share is insignificant.

I am one of the dopes that still use Microsoft mail. It has been upgraded to Outlook. Microsoft decided blind CC is too advanced for their users. I read up on it and maybe if I put the addresses in parentheses that may make them blind. I have written email apps more competent than the new Outlook.

What kind of joke is that? A bad one I guess. I may be forced to start using gmail more.
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cart0181
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13. April 2013 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mez:
Jemborg, Apple used to have about 1-2% of the market and now it is doubled! That is a blazing comeback but their market share is insignificant.

I am one of the dopes that still use Microsoft mail. It has been upgraded to Outlook. Microsoft decided blind CC is too advanced for their users. I read up on it and maybe if I put the addresses in parentheses that may make them blind. I have written email apps more competent than the new Outlook.

What kind of joke is that? A bad one I guess. I may be forced to start using gmail more.
The new Outlook.com is the best webmail I have ever seen by far. What would you prefer, gmail? lol

Oh, and you really should distinguish you are not using Outlook 360 or Outlook for desktop, which does support BCC.

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13. April 2013 @ 15:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mez:
Jemborg, Apple used to have about 1-2% of the market and now it is doubled! That is a blazing comeback but their market share is insignificant.
I guess so. You reckon the tablet market etc will boom (at the expense of desktops) but Apple have really lost headway there... Foxconn's parent company Ho Hai Precision has had a severe loss of earnings:
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.c...mand_for_iphone

And even Apple's share price has gone down. Forbes report the iPhone is no longer cool as your grandma wants one... but I can tell you not even your grandma wants one now, she wants a Galaxy Note because of her astigmatism. :D

As to gmail... I use it but I have tracking blockers up the wazoo blah blah and Adblock Plus/Edge preventing any ads from downloading anyway- for privacy and/or peace and to speed up my connection. Trying this one out atm Mez: DoNotTrackMe


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13. April 2013 @ 21:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cart0181:
Originally posted by Mez:

I am one of the dopes that still use Microsoft mail. It has been upgraded to Outlook. Microsoft decided blind CC is too advanced for their users. I read up on it and maybe if I put the addresses in parentheses that may make them blind. I have written email apps more competent than the new Outlook.

What kind of joke is that? A bad one I guess. I may be forced to start using gmail more.


The new Outlook.com is the best webmail I have ever seen by far. What would you prefer, gmail? lol

Oh, and you really should distinguish you are not using Outlook 360 or Outlook for desktop, which does support BCC.
So outlook.com is the best web email ever. What is so good about it? Since I use blind cc far more often than even a regular address it doesn't work for me. Plus the turds left 'blind cc' on the screen. Maybe they meant to have that feature and forgot. If I did something like that at my company I would be out the door.

I use addblock all the time, more for security than anything else.

Yes, the real Outlook is fine. I have no gripes there.

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14. April 2013 @ 02:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I like the interface. It is very well presented and clean, intuitively easy to use. As I said, it is the best I have seen in terms of webmail options currently. Gmail is pathetic by comparison in my opinion. That being said, I abhor the new "Mail" app in Win8. It wouldn't be so bad if you could create new folders to organize your incoming messages without going back out to the webmail server in a browser to do so. Also, there should have been some sort of support for importing POP messages from another computer. I strongly feel that functionality should be built into a new revamped version of WET. I do agree it is (past) time to phase out POP though.
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14. April 2013 @ 03:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mez:
Originally posted by cart0181:
Originally posted by Mez:

I am one of the dopes that still use Microsoft mail. It has been upgraded to Outlook. Microsoft decided blind CC is too advanced for their users. I read up on it and maybe if I put the addresses in parentheses that may make them blind. I have written email apps more competent than the new Outlook.

What kind of joke is that? A bad one I guess. I may be forced to start using gmail more.


The new Outlook.com is the best webmail I have ever seen by far. What would you prefer, gmail? lol

Oh, and you really should distinguish you are not using Outlook 360 or Outlook for desktop, which does support BCC.
So outlook.com is the best web email ever. What is so good about it? Since I use blind cc far more often than even a regular address it doesn't work for me. Plus the turds left 'blind cc' on the screen. Maybe they meant to have that feature and forgot. If I did something like that at my company I would be out the door.

I use addblock all the time, more for security than anything else.

Yes, the real Outlook is fine. I have no gripes there.
Oh, I checked it out and BCC is absolutely there. It was getting "covered up" by the contact list that drops down below the "regular" CC. To make the contact list go away so you can see the BCC field, just click somewhere in the blank space beneath the contact list drop down. Make sense? GLHF
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14. April 2013 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After a second read I got it. It is still a pain in the butt but far less painful than switching. Thanks! For my personnel mail I may average 1 email where I fill in the to a day, I may use cc once a month but will blind cc about 100 addresses a day. I always blind cc jokes and the like.

I do appreciate less crap on the screen. I really only want to use an email app to email and maybe use the calendar but nothing else. With the old hotmail the edit screen might re-size while I am typing an email and once re-sized by the bug it wouldn't re-size manually. It might only happen once a week but it would drive me up a wall because you could only see one line of your email at a time.
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15. April 2013 @ 16:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For every ONE person praising Win8 I see at least 10 complaining.

If you think it's good just give this a try.
Give a Win 8 computer to someone... Then try to do PHONE tech support with them.
Describe to them the keys and keystrokes needed to, oh, I don't know... Open the Printers folder or an elevated command prompt.

Win 8 is an unmitigated disaster and that disaster will not go away until Microsoft allows the Aero interface back on.



Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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15. April 2013 @ 17:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ThePastor:
For every ONE person praising Win8 I see at least 10 complaining.

If you think it's good just give this a try.
Give a Win 8 computer to someone... Then try to do PHONE tech support with them.
Describe to them the keys and keystrokes needed to, oh, I don't know... Open the Printers folder or an elevated command prompt.

Win 8 is an unmitigated disaster and that disaster will not go away until Microsoft allows the Aero interface back on.


Extremely good point actually!
Havent actually seen this mentioned in any review!

Not had a chance to do tech support on Windows 8 - mainly because any company I know have no intention of using Windows 8 or tablets - but its a real deal breaker!

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15. April 2013 @ 17:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Forget WIn8 I'm trying to run win 7 32 bit without the ramm cap, so far so good.
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29. April 2013 @ 03:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Forget WIn8 I'm trying to run win 7 32 bit without the ramm cap, so far so good.
OK, I'll bite. 4GB cap is inherent to 32-bit. It is not possible to go beyond that without switching to 64-bit.
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29. April 2013 @ 06:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cart0181:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Forget WIn8 I'm trying to run win 7 32 bit without the ramm cap, so far so good.
OK, I'll bite. 4GB cap is inherent to 32-bit. It is not possible to go beyond that without switching to 64-bit.
Na, a solution has existed for ages and it's easy to do but it's not employed because there are some drivers out there (old ones mainly) that don't take it into account so MS et al have not implemented it. I written about it somewhere else but can't find the links soz.

Anyway, it's why the nextbox will be x86 but have 8gigs.

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