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Mega removes 3D gun design
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article published on 13 May, 2013
File locker service Mega has removed publicly available 3D gun designs from its service, following orders by founder Kim Dotcom.
The designs were made available by US-based company Defense Distributed, and can be used with certain 3D printers. The company successfully fired the world's first 3D printed gun recently, and made the design available on its website.
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13. May 2013 @ 19:09 |
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A gun with no bullets is not dangerous, why do people fear someone bringing an empty gun past a metal detector?
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ddp
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13. May 2013 @ 20:50 |
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when so-called gun paases thru metal detector without being detected then it is dangerous.
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elbald90
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14. May 2013 @ 01:59 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
when so-called gun paases thru metal detector without being detected then it is dangerous.
dangerous how? the ammo needed to make it effective as a weapon cant get through a metal detector effectively rendering it useless
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14. May 2013 @ 03:08 |
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a projectile doesn't need to be metal
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14. May 2013 @ 03:38 |
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Originally posted by elbald90:
Originally posted by ddp:
when so-called gun paases thru metal detector without being detected then it is dangerous.
dangerous how? the ammo needed to make it effective as a weapon cant get through a metal detector effectively rendering it useless
can order ammo through magazines with little or no background checks.plus someone points a gun at you ,you wont know if it loaded or not.
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Red_Forman
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14. May 2013 @ 05:51 |
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by elbald90:
Originally posted by ddp:
when so-called gun paases thru metal detector without being detected then it is dangerous.
dangerous how? the ammo needed to make it effective as a weapon cant get through a metal detector effectively rendering it useless
can order ammo through magazines with little or no background checks.plus someone points a gun at you ,you wont know if it loaded or not.
if that's the case, you're better of with realistic looking toy guns, rather then the silly toy looking real one.
I'll stick my foot up your ass.
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Red_Forman
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14. May 2013 @ 05:53 |
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Btw, somebody made a bitmap picture that contains all the data necessary to print it. Unlike movies or games, 3D piracy needs little space and can be hidden in anything.
I'll stick my foot up your ass.
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Interestx
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14. May 2013 @ 08:12 |
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Great, the world doesn't need any more guns.
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Bozobub
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14. May 2013 @ 11:20 |
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Originally posted by elbald90:
Originally posted by ddp:
when so-called gun paases thru metal detector without being detected then it is dangerous.
dangerous how? the ammo needed to make it effective as a weapon cant get through a metal detector effectively rendering it useless
Try reading up on caseless ammunition. While these rounds *may* not be feasible with the printed gun, with a ceramic bullet, they are quite difficult to detect.
If you can't understand why a gun that is impossible to detect with any kind of metal detector is inherently dangerous, then you should work for TSA =p .
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14. May 2013 @ 15:50 |
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Has anyone actually read up on this gun? It is not undetectable, this is by design. It also only holds/fires one bullet. Don't give in to emotion and hysteria.
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ddp
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14. May 2013 @ 22:10 |
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only need 1 bullet to kill a person.
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14. May 2013 @ 23:24 |
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Saying that these printers are too expensive for ordinary people (let's not mention organised crime hey) is not sensible remark, I only became aware in the last few months that 3d printing is the latest big craze and it's because they have been plummeting in price. Also, an invention of the year was a home-made device that could extrude the expensive plastic spool needed out of cheap base material. The thing that makes me feel slightly better is that the thing will only fire one round at a time. Let's hope home-made automatic weapons are a way away yet.
@ChiknLitl How is it "not undetectable" when everyone here says it is. You really must explain yourself if you want to be taken seriously... "by design" is a vague remark, we all know designs can be changed.
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Bozobub
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14. May 2013 @ 23:26 |
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It only has the metal blank that makes it detectable, if the person who prints the gun actually opts to install that very specific part.
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14. May 2013 @ 23:37 |
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Cheers Bub.
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15. May 2013 @ 00:29 |
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenbe...3d-printed-gun/
Read up on it. The pistol is as likely to explode as it is to actually fire! Nothing they made was illegal, they are a federally licensed firearms manufacturer. The only potential misstep was making the design available for download outside of the US.
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17. May 2013 @ 13:10 |
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The genie is out of the bottle.
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17. May 2013 @ 15:38 |
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It will be a scary day when 3d printers can fabricate things out of harder materials like metal!
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Bozobub
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17. May 2013 @ 15:45 |
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They already can; it's been around for quite a while. Simply google "metal 3d printer".
Hell, recently a 3D printer was used to "print" a rat kidney, which apparently works (at least to a point; it makes urine).
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17. May 2013 @ 20:37 |
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First, does anyone understand how X-rays work? They show the difference in DENSITY, not just showing metal versus not metal. The Glock and even the 3D printed gun look just exactly like what they are on an X-ray machine - i.e. GUNS. So the problem with "undetectable" is really just to the hand held scanners, which do only detect metal in a manner similar to mine detectors that scavengers use to find coins in the ground.
Second, you can't hijack a plane and fly it into the Capitol Dome with a gun that only has one bullet ... unless theres only one other person on the plane.
Third, as someone else noted, the genie is out of the bottle. Plenty of sites which are not under US govt control have the plans and anyone who wants them bad enough will be able to get them. This is a GOOD THING, because those people who are fearful of guns will no longer be able to pretend that they will ever be completely banned. Those of us who demand the right to self protection will get it and politicians will have to actually apply some thought to reducing crime rather than just blaming everything on guns.
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17. May 2013 @ 21:18 |
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Originally posted by ToadWiz:
First, does anyone understand how X-rays work? They show the difference in DENSITY, not just showing metal versus not metal. The Glock and even the 3D printed gun look just exactly like what they are on an X-ray machine - i.e. GUNS. So the problem with "undetectable" is really just to the hand held scanners, which do only detect metal in a manner similar to mine detectors that scavengers use to find coins in the ground.
Second, you can't hijack a plane and fly it into the Capitol Dome with a gun that only has one bullet ... unless theres only one other person on the plane.
Third, as someone else noted, the genie is out of the bottle. Plenty of sites which are not under US govt control have the plans and anyone who wants them bad enough will be able to get them. This is a GOOD THING, because those people who are fearful of guns will no longer be able to pretend that they will ever be completely banned. Those of us who demand the right to self protection will get it and politicians will have to actually apply some thought to reducing crime rather than just blaming everything on guns.
This is absolutely correct. Does anyone realize that a UN council has decided that the right to self defense is not a human right? They are using this as an excuse to have member countries outlaw hand guns. In the US we have the 2nd amendment that is continually under attack. If this printed gun issue takes off the arguments are moot and they will have to blame crime on high capacity sugared soda!
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18. May 2013 @ 08:50 |
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Not being American but a free Aussie I find the arguments against gun control moronic.
You don't need anything but a shotgun for self protection ...if that.
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18. May 2013 @ 12:57 |
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Well, at least there's symmetry, because I find the arguments in favor of gun control moronic. A survey of criminals in the US shows that 40% of them get their guns illegally. So what good is another law going to do? It's like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to buy cars.
Further you don't NEED a computer, or a car, or a shrimp to throw on the barbie, or anything else that is above the basics of food and shelter. People who think they have the right to tell others what they need are self-righteous, and as you noted, it's easier to be righteous than right.
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18. May 2013 @ 13:46 |
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Originally posted by Me:
Not being American but a free Aussie I find the arguments against gun control moronic.
You don't need anything but a shotgun for self protection ...if that.
Originally posted by ToadWiz:
Well, at least there's symmetry, because I find the arguments in favor of gun control moronic. A survey of criminals in the US shows that 40% of them get their guns illegally. So what good is another law going to do? It's like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to buy cars.
Further you don't NEED a computer, or a car, or a shrimp to throw on the barbie, or anything else that is above the basics of food and shelter. People who think they have the right to tell others what they need are self-righteous, and as you noted, it's easier to be righteous than right.
whatever
LATE EDIT: I should add... I live the reality of gun control in my country, whereas you live in some hyper-hysterical delusional paranoia of assumptions.
I should add I'm also a father of a beautiful three year old boy.
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18. May 2013 @ 17:15 |
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For the University program that I'm in, there's a big project (forget what its called) that basically spans over my 4th year where we have to design something from the ground up and present it with the ethics and economics and blah to whoever. Most projects usually involve using the 3D printers we have available. I asked one of my profs if designing a gun would be acceptable, and he said its typically "frowned upon".
Designing things like drones are ok though.
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19. May 2013 @ 06:46 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Me:
Not being American but a free Aussie I find the arguments against gun control moronic.
You don't need anything but a shotgun for self protection ...if that.
Originally posted by ToadWiz:
Well, at least there's symmetry, because I find the arguments in favor of gun control moronic. A survey of criminals in the US shows that 40% of them get their guns illegally. So what good is another law going to do? It's like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to buy cars.
Further you don't NEED a computer, or a car, or a shrimp to throw on the barbie, or anything else that is above the basics of food and shelter. People who think they have the right to tell others what they need are self-righteous, and as you noted, it's easier to be righteous than right.
whatever
LATE EDIT: I should add... I live the reality of gun control in my country, whereas you live in some hyper-hysterical delusional paranoia of assumptions.
I should add I'm also a father of a beautiful three year old boy.
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We've already been over this. It takes someone who is self righteous to demand that other people live as he chooses. Your signature confirms that it's easier to be righteous than right, and your unfounded and unproven assertions demonstrate that you'd rather be righteous than right.
Why are you so upset? You are the one who is ranting and near hysterical. I have no problem at all with you living however you want. Australia isn't my country and I'm no where near arrogant enough to try to tell you how Aussies should live. What it is about your side that believes it has a mandate to force your opinion on everyone else?
Still, if you are going to be this emotional, I hope you don't have access to guns.
I have two adult children that I am proud of and care at least as much about as you do for your son.
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