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Guide: Legally converting your DVD/Blu-ray discs to digital copies in the cloud with VUDU

article published on 8 June, 2013

Last year, VUDU launched its "disc-to-digital" initiative, giving disc owners a chance to have access to a digital copy of their movie in the cloud, for a nominal price. Originally, the program was only available at Wal-Mart stores (Wal-Mart owns VUDU) and users had to bring their discs to a store to have the "conversion" done. The price is $2 for an SD digital copy of a DVD or $5 to ... [ read the full article ]

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DK1979
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8. June 2013 @ 19:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yea if i wanted anything like this i wouldn't have bought the original discs and just used something like Netflix.
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8. June 2013 @ 20:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If I wanted to convert the disc's I PAID for. Then I would convert them. I refuse to pay for something that should be an inherent right. I would be more ok with this, if I could download the movies DRM free. I offline must be a possibility for me...

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8. June 2013 @ 21:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What a scam...pay for what you already own so they can shut it down in a year and you are left with nothing.
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8. June 2013 @ 21:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Bleh. I'll just rip any BDs myself, thenkyew. Way to NOT offer a viable alternative to piracy, sorry, thanks for playing.
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8. June 2013 @ 23:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No mention of what happens if vudu goes belly up,i suspect you loose what you paid for,not that most of us here would care ain't that right boy's we got it sussed rip 'em & store 'em ourselves,either that or sign up multiple mega.com accounts to get heaps of online storage

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8. June 2013 @ 23:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
VUDU is owned by Wal-Mart and backed by all the major studios. Not going anywhere.

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9. June 2013 @ 00:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
all great companies eventually go bye bye.
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9. June 2013 @ 01:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cool concept... if it was free...

also, I second what DK1979 said. Netflix picture quality is crap depending on what you are watching.
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9. June 2013 @ 07:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by flyingpen:
If I wanted to convert the disc's I PAID for. Then I would convert them. I refuse to pay for something that should be an inherent right. I would be more ok with this, if I could download the movies DRM free. I offline must be a possibility for me...
I agree, totally. This is an absolute nonsense. FREE digital copies for what you already own are always legal. However, scamming people is NOT!

But they'll make some money out of this, that's for sure. Many people just don't know how to perform these kind of tasks and, sadly, some of them will pay. Maybe they'll even think this service is "cheap". Definitely, ignorance is no bliss.

"You know, it seems that quotes on the internet are becoming less and less reliable." -Abraham Lincoln.

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9. June 2013 @ 10:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i respectfully disagree.i think this is a reasonable alternative for converting to a digital formate.its not free but of coarse they have to make a profit somehow.nothing in this world is free. however in contrast if they offer mandatory managed copy on the disc i kinda don't see the point.at lest they are starting to get the idea that we want more options.
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9. June 2013 @ 18:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by supersaiyaman:
i respectfully disagree.i think this is a reasonable alternative for converting to a digital formate.its not free but of coarse they have to make a profit somehow.nothing in this world is free. however in contrast if they offer mandatory managed copy on the disc i kinda don't see the point.at lest they are starting to get the idea that we want more options.
If you already own it and payed for it, its not a reasonable alternative to charge you for something that is a consumer right. individuals like you that support this crap and think you need to give them what little you have to add to their over-inflated paychecks is how we got to this point in the first place.

I'll stick my foot up your ass.
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9. June 2013 @ 20:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
VUDU is owned by Wal-Mart and backed by all the major studios. Not going anywhere.
that explains how they managed to get the movie industry onside on the idea & perhaps a %

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10. June 2013 @ 00:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
At least here in the USA, it is actually illegal to make backups for your own use...no one dares go after anyone for doing it...but it is still technically illegal. Ever wonder why netflix pays for licensing when they could simply buy a bunch of copies of the disk and only allow that many streams of that movie at once, while it is perfectly legal to rent out dvd players with disks in them over the internet? That's probably why these companies figure they can get away with charging people for crap like this...because they figure people are afraid of the laws they have paid for.

It would be one thing if they were charging a fee for the bandwidth...even making a profit on it...but the fact that they charge more for a HD copy of a DVD than they do for a HD copy of a bluray (when the user owns the license to view the film in both cases)...that proves it is just a scam.

Oh, and just because it is backed by WalMart and the studios, that does not mean it will be around forever. If you want proof, go ahead and read the agreement you are presented with when you sign up...I have not read it, but I can guarantee that it either states that they can shut down the service at any time, or that they can change the terms of service at any time...and there is probably also a clause to stop class action.
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10. June 2013 @ 22:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by supersaiyaman:
i respectfully disagree.i think this is a reasonable alternative for converting to a digital formate.its not free but of coarse they have to make a profit somehow.nothing in this world is free. however in contrast if they offer mandatory managed copy on the disc i kinda don't see the point.at lest they are starting to get the idea that we want more options.
It's not for me but I can see the point as an option. Andre' suggesting that it's not that unreasonable a price and I tend to agree with him when I add up the costs and time and convenience.

But my problem is that I hardly ever watch a movie twice. There's just not enough time. And I only try to keep copies of movies/TV shows nowadays that are rare or hard to get. Apart from kids stuff which you know gets a thrashing. VUDU is unlikely to keep rare stuff so I can forget those old DVDs of The Thunderbirds for instance.

Originally posted by scorpNZ:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
VUDU is owned by Wal-Mart and backed by all the major studios. Not going anywhere.
that explains how they managed to get the movie industry onside on the idea & perhaps a %
The service will be dumped if it doesn't contribute to the company profits in the long run no matter how big Wal-Mart is. Read the EULA... I'm willing to bet you have to supply your own lube too.

EDIT: I'm quite aware that EULA's are NOT binding legally.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

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11. June 2013 @ 13:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by supersaiyaman:
i respectfully disagree.i think this is a reasonable alternative for converting to a digital formate.its not free but of coarse they have to make a profit somehow.nothing in this world is free. however in contrast if they offer mandatory managed copy on the disc i kinda don't see the point.at lest they are starting to get the idea that we want more options.
Thank you. I am certainly capable of ripping and converting myself, but the time and hassle involved, not to mention if it bombs out halfway through... this is worth it.

Everyone needs to dump the entitlement mentality. I own movies on VHS but that doesn't mean I should expect a DVD, Blu-Ray or digital copy because I own one format over the other. That would be like saying I own the Xbox 360 version so I should get the PS3 version of the game free.
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Originally posted by SProdigy:
That would be like saying I own the Xbox 360 version so I should get the PS3 version of the game free.
You should. If it does not involve the cost of physical media.



"You know, it seems that quotes on the internet are becoming less and less reliable." -Abraham Lincoln.
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20. June 2013 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KillerBug:
it is still technically illegal.
only if it is protected by encryption, granted is nearly all of them, but i'll occasionally see one that has no css. ;)
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21. June 2013 @ 07:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tend to agree with little pieces of what everyone is saying. I have an iPhone that I watch digital copies on while at work. I have converted over 250 movies from HD sources and now when I buy a blu-ray I usually buy the ones with digital copies included, unless it is a digital copy from VUDU. I tried to use this service in the past when I bought a BR that had this as the digital copy choice. First of all, the service is a pain in the ass to use. I dont like anything that I have to stream in the first place as bandwidth is precious. I wish some of these companies would understand this. Most digital copies are for people to use while away from home and away from wifi.

That being said I can understand why someone would use a service like this. This service is geared more towards the tech novices and grandma and grandpa who dont even know what a digital copy is. I would never expect an after dawn community member to use a service like this. I would expect this community to use whatever personal video converter that they use to convert their own sources ( BR, DVD, or video files) to whatever format they want without having restrictive DRM.

The one thing I hate about digital copies included with physical media is the fact that they have an expiration date. I recently bought an old BR at Walmart in the 7.99 bin and it came with a digital copy, or so I thought. Apparently video files are like food and they expire after a certain amount of time, so be sure to read the back of the case and look for expiration date if it matters to you. Why a digital file has an expiration date is beyond stupid.
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21. June 2013 @ 08:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NSA is monitoring this thread, you people are conspiring to do something wrong, don't know what yet, but Big Brother is watching.
six60six
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21. June 2013 @ 15:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mightyzog:
recently bought an old BR at Walmart in the 7.99 bin and it came with a digital copy, or so I thought. Apparently video files are like food and they expire after a certain amount of time, so be sure to read the back of the case and look for expiration date if it matters to you. Why a digital file has an expiration date is beyond stupid.

one day i went and added a bunch of digital copies at once, and noticed some had expired. after contacting support with my complaint, they emailed me new codes. still pretty lame that anything like can expire (or go out of print, for that matter).
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mightyzog
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21. June 2013 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Some companies will do that for your. I know for a fact that Sony will not. Tried emailing their customer service and they sent me back am email saying, that you should read the back of the case before you buy. Cheap A-Holes. However universal was a little more generous and did email a new code.
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