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New Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit tool released

article published on 24 June, 2013

Malwarebytes has released a beta of its new Anti-Exploit tool, a result of its acquisition of ZeroVulnerabilityLabs' ExploitShield application. Anti-Exploit is not an anti-virus or anti-malware tool. Instead, Anti-Exploit runs in the background and monitors some popular applications, preventing vulnerabilities in the software from being exploited. This could be, for example, an attempt ... [ read the full article ]

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cart0181
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24. June 2013 @ 00:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Great, another application to run in the background!
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Bozobub
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24. June 2013 @ 01:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So, in other words, they made a standalone heuristic protection application? Interesting, if so, but many security suites (Comodo, for example, or Norton) already have this functionality.
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24. June 2013 @ 01:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Bozobub:
So, in other words, they made a standalone heuristic protection application? Interesting, if so, but many security suites (Comodo, for example, or Norton) already have this functionality.
No, I believe this is different. A heuristic protection application looks for 'virus-like behaviors' in software. This looks for out-dated software already installed on your computer that contains known vulnerabilities to exploitation.
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24. June 2013 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From the description, no, that's NOT what this software does. Click the link and see for yourself.
cart0181
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25. June 2013 @ 00:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good. I'm glad you got your question answered for yourself. I assume you now know how this product is different from what Norton does.
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25. June 2013 @ 02:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this product is nothing like norton. i got it running and you dont even know its there.how much good it does remains to be seen.only had it for a day.
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2. July 2013 @ 22:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It sounds good to me. This year the hacking world has changed. AV is becoming passé. Routines that can alter a viral signature have been on hacking download servers for over a year. Each time malware is injected into your computer it has a different signature than all the same malware that had been injected from that server. Even if a malware is identified, it is no help finding the malware on a different computer. Only a new order of heuristic security software can protect your server. Mind you, I still keep AV up and running since a club can kill you as well as a bullet.


I will try it. It will be less useful for me because I sandbox everything. Still I want to see what it catches. I have seen a huge decrease in last ditch thwarted attacks since I started using Comodo. I browse using a heavy weight sandbox (sandboxie). Which prevents the browser from being altered while browsing. You do get an error message warning you can?t modify your browsed while it is sandboxed. I was getting attacked at least once an hour and AD was one of the least respectable sites I browse. For a week I was getting attacked on Hotmail. This is how a site like Hotmail got hacked. Apparently it is maintained by many different contractors. The attacks were coming when I downloaded an attachment. What they do is infect any page they can with FTP login stealing code. See linkstealing credentials

When they use that information to infect more web pages. Along with stealing FTP information they will attack your computer with malicious scripts, hidden links and the worst injection frames.
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http://blog.unmaskparasites.com/2012/08...ame-injections/

Since then hackers have moved to brute force hacking of blog sites. Sites that use Wordpress and Joomla blog engines. These have default admin IDs and are

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What does this mean to you? More and more sites will be getting hacked. When they do your computer will be attacked by ever increasingly efficient malware. This is the new wave of infections that has been going on for some time. They don't use a virus. The malware doesn't replicate by a computer getting infected. They infect web sites. This software will try to prevent a keylogger attaching itsself to your browser. Key loggers are great to steal all sorts of Personal Information (PI).
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2. July 2013 @ 23:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
god,mez,i feel sorry for you.i dont know where you surf but ive never in 10+ years on the net even come close to the experiences youve had.seriously man,lighten up.if youve actually had experience with these things first hand fine.if not,get off the conspiracy theory websites for your own good.
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2. July 2013 @ 23:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cart0181:
Good. I'm glad you got your question answered for yourself. I assume you now know how this product is different from what Norton does.

Yes, this product IS like Norton (and Comodo, and every security software that has a real-time heuristics module). No, it isn't like the entire programs, just the relevant modules.

Nor is a (properly-written) heuristics protection module something that only looks for "virus-like" behavior. Anyone who has ever put Comodo's "Defense+" module on the "Paranoid" setting knows this, to their unending irritation; I'm pretty sure that accessing the keyboard and/or display is not necessarily a hallmark of malware - lol...

An exercise for you: Please explain how this program will operate, if it doesn't use a heuristic ruleset. It won't be using a definition database, so, er..? Maybe magic wands and pixie dust?

Unlike you, apparently, I clicked the link before I ever posted my opinion. Funny how that works.

This utility *may* be worth using, in addition to w/e heuristic protection you already have (similar to using both AdAware and Spybot on the same system to clean up spyware), it may not (like running two AVs at the same time is often a bad idea). But the fact remains, it's duplicating a function many people already have in place on their systems.

Edit --> I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, Mez, but there's more than one way already to break sandbox protection. No security is perfect.

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cart0181
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13. July 2013 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Unlike you, apparently, I clicked the link before I ever posted my opinion. Funny how that works.
edited by ddp. And what I posted wasn't an opinion. It was an attempt to help you understand what the software does.

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An exercise for you: Please explain how this program will operate, if it doesn't use a heuristic ruleset. It won't be using a definition database, so, er..? Maybe magic wands and pixie dust?
It's a shame you don't understand how this software works. I'm not going to explain it for you.

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ddp
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13. July 2013 @ 13:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
post edited as per forum rules.
Bozobub
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14. July 2013 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry, but no. This app is merely a specialized heuristics module, nothing more. Just about everything it does, less specialized programs already do. The advantage it seems to have is that most other, more generalized apps would need to be set to an elevated security level (with the annoying flood of pop-ups that would entail) to provide the same level of protection for the specific programs MAE protects.

It's a shame you don't understand how this software works; glad I was able to explain it to you.

Note: The transparent ploy, "I know the answer, I just won't tell YOU! " doesn't work for 6-year-olds. How about learning to debate like an adult?

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ddp
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14. July 2013 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
play nice.
Bozobub
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14. July 2013 @ 19:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry, ddp, I'll drop it, but that mess rubs me the wrong way ^^' .
ddp
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14. July 2013 @ 20:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you can continue but just don't go hyper as just the net compared to face to face.
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Bozobub
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14. July 2013 @ 21:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heh. Frankly, I'm exactly as snarky when I feel someone has responded unfairly or insultingly in real life. Not saying that's always wise, mind you =x !
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