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will burning dvd slow down your computer or use a crap load of memory???
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Royman
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25. July 2004 @ 10:49 |
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i took most of your advice and am going to use dvdshrink and nero to start backing up some of my movies but before i go crazy i needed to know what it does to your computer and harddrive because i just got a brand new computer from newegg.com like 5 days ago and i dont want it ruined so please help me ASAP
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25. July 2004 @ 11:53 |
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dont worry it wont ruin your computer in any way .
burning dvds takes up most of your computers resources , so my advice is while its recoding and burning dvds go and put the kettle on .
on average to recode and then burn a dvd it takes about half an hour from start to finish .
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25. July 2004 @ 13:19 |
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This could pose a problem. Two burners on the same ide cable.
The one thing you'll have to keep an eye on is your HD space. Shrink will leave either a video_ts file or a ISO image on your local disk(default settings). So when your done you can just delete them(make sure you empty your recycle bin and or run a disk clean up).
Last, for me ... Using Shrink w/ Nero, using deep analysis, backing up a DVD-9 ... start to finish is around 45min to an hour.
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25. July 2004 @ 13:28 |
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Good practice is to not do anything with the PC when Burning. Also with all the adding/deleting of large files (4Gb+)keep the Hard Disk Defragged every few weeks, stops the buffer going mad.
Shrink isn't too bad - do a CTRL ALT DELETE and look for Shrink. Right click and set the priority to low. That way you can browse the net or whatever and it will use CPU idle time. If you don't the PC it will switch to full CPU load.
I don't know what I am doing.
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25. July 2004 @ 13:36 |
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buxton,
First you say this:
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Good practice is to not do anything with the PC when Burning.
Yes indeed it's good practice. But then why would you suggest this?
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Shrink isn't too bad - do a CTRL ALT DELETE and look for Shrink. Right click and set the priority to low. That way you can browse the net or whatever and it will use CPU idle time.
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buxton
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25. July 2004 @ 13:42 |
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Because burning to DVD and then using resources can cause the buffer to go erratic - that can arse the DVD up. Costs money. In theory you can use the PC when burning - if I am backing up data to CD I use the PC - but never with DVD's.
Using the PC when Shrink is running will do nothing more than slow it down a bit - as long as the process priority is set to low you can run Media Player or Winamp or load a browser and it wont kill the PC.
In fact looking at your specs if that P4 is a HT CPU you can set one of the logical CPU's to shrink and the other to another process.
I don't know what I am doing.
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25. July 2004 @ 13:49 |
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Using the PC when Shrink is running will do nothing more than slow it down a bit - as long as the process priority is set to low you can run Media Player or Winamp or load a browser and it wont kill the PC.
So your saying when shrink is going through the analyizing and encoding process ... using the pc won't hurt anything other than slow the process down?
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In fact looking at your specs if that P4 is a HT CPU you can set one of the logical CPU's to shrink and the other to another process.
Mine isn't HT, but I can do other thing while backing up. I just don't anymore. Best practice ... leave your pc alone when backing up dvds.
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buxton
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25. July 2004 @ 13:55 |
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If your PC is upto scratch it shouldn't make that much difference. I can run TMPGEnc and use the PC and it doesn't alter the encoding time at all.
Same with Shrink or DVD2One - obviously not using the PC will speed it up - but watch the overall time to complete a process - then load in Winamp and set an MP3 playing - the time doesn't really change. If it suddenly shot up by 20 mins I wouldn't do it.
However if you don't set the priority to Low you can't do anything with the PC as the software hogs all your CPU. It's just boring to sit and wait 20 mins for it to do it's thing, may as well browse the net or put a tune on.
I don't know what I am doing.
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25. July 2004 @ 13:58 |
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the best advice from people who know is no matter how fast your pc is leave alone while recoding and burning.
happy burning owd lads and lasses :o)
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25. July 2004 @ 14:00 |
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ps. royman , using DVD Shrink and Nero should get you off to a good start .
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25. July 2004 @ 15:07 |
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Mayhaps just an additional 5 words when burning ?
?STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER !?
The end result ?
Fewer coasters -
Pete
I do, even with my old decrepit PC
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buxton
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25. July 2004 @ 15:42 |
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Clearly it's a matter of preference - my PC is fast enough to run Shrink/DVD2ONE/TmpgEnc/Mainconcept etc etc and browse the net, play MP3's or all three.
Mainconcept will do a DivX to DVD in 50-60mins. All I have is a 2.2Ghz AMD Athlon!
I just counted my DVD's - 53 burns - not one coaster - and I use cheap Bulkpaq media - £6.99 for 25.
I am not saying everyone should run 40 apps when doing conversions or burns. He wanted to know if it will damage his PC - all I am saying is no it wont.
Right now I am converting a 90min file to DVD in Mainconcept. It has been running for 35mins and will be done in 26mins.
Also running, Opera, Zone Alarm, Bit Tornado, Yahoo Messenger and Winamp! It just doesn't effect it to the point were I worry. That's 61mins - it isn't gonna complete any quicker if I close all those apps. In fact it feels quicker as I am not sitting here watching a counter tick down.
I don't know what I am doing.
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25. July 2004 @ 16:11 |
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buxton,
You're defiantly on a winning streak - my suggestion is -
1. Go to the track and bet the bank -
2., Buy Lottery tickets, allot of them -
3. Go play with wild women, you don't need protection - you're too lucky -
4. Drive fast on a rain slicked street and slide and slide and slide - (God, I'm jealous -)
5. Go sky diving, allot - You don't need a backup parachute - You be da man !!!
As the song says, "When you're hot, you're hot !"
Enjoy,
Pete
I just don't want to be there when eventually he crashes and burns -
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Royman
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25. July 2004 @ 18:09 |
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thanks for all your help i have already burned two dvds successfully with decryptor,shrink, and nero
the ultimate gaming machine:
AMD Athlon 2800+
Corsair 1GB RAM
Seagate 120 GB HD
ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
AMD NFORCE2 A7N8X-E DELUXE
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz 5.1 channel sound card
NEC 2500a DVD+/-RW
ROSEWILL CDRW DVD COMBO DRIVE
SONY FLOPPY DRIVE
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26. July 2004 @ 05:49 |
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your welcome .
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Royman
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26. July 2004 @ 07:47 |
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but whats wrong with my burners?
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ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
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NEC 2500a DVD+/-RW
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26. July 2004 @ 07:58 |
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Don't look now!
I see a little smoke in here.
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buxton
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26. July 2004 @ 09:19 |
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You're defiantly on a winning streak - my suggestion is
1. Go to the track and bet the bank -
2. Buy Lottery tickets, allot of them -
3. Go play with wild women, you don't need protection - you're too lucky -
4. Drive fast on a rain slicked street and slide and slide and slide - (God, I'm jealous -)
5. Go sky diving, allot - You don't need a backup parachute - You be da man !!!
What's that supposed to mean - I am full of shit?
If your PC can't handle the simple task of a Browser, Yahoo, Winamp, BT and the conversion of a DivX file then my advise is to stop wasting money on pre-built Compaqs and build your own - that's if you can tear yourself away from ridiculing people who are on here trying to offer advice to someone.
For the record here is my mystical phantom PC that apparently can do things no other PC can.
Athlon XP1800@2.2Ghz 200Fsb
512Mb PC3200 - Dual DDR
ABIT NF7 v2.0 nForce2
Sony DVD ROM
Pioneer 107
Promise IDE100 controller
WD40Gb
WD80Gb
Windows2000Pro SP4
ATI Radeon 9800Pro
SB LIVE Value
And thats about it - feel free to steal the specs as I have clearly stumbled upon a magical combination.
Hey look this has nothing to do with the original post can I be a Senior Member?
I don't know what I am doing.
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but whats wrong with my burners?
Royman,
Sometimes having two burners on the same ide cable can cause errors. For some it works, if your burning successfully I wouldn't worry about it.
@buxton,
My pc is more than capable of multi-tasking. Again it's best practice ... that's all. Just like for me ... I recommend burning at 4x or 2.4x not 8x. And the thing is, if it works for you ... right on, don't change a thing. But there are alot of people who have tired and ended up with coasters.
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26. July 2004 @ 11:06 |
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I know what you mean - but if the guy above was to look at the original post the user was worried it would damage his PC. I was just making the point that you can do all kinds of crap at the same time - Windows isn't as bad as people seem to think it is. I was trying to reassure the guy that his system can handle it.
I also made it clear that I don't use the PC when I am burning DVD's only CD's and even then only sometimes, gotta keep those buffers full.
I really didn't need someone coming on trying to make out I am all mouth and no substance. I wasn't converting and doing all the other shit I had running to make me sound all that - that's just what I always do, convert as a background task, minimize and forget about it.
Clearly in the post above he didn't see it that way - and comments like that don't solve anything.
I can take a joke - but that got a bit personal. Or maybe his intentions were fair, I dunno.
I don't know what I am doing.
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26. July 2004 @ 14:10 |
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but if the guy above was to look at the original post the user was worried it would damage his PC
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Actually I can read buxton, that question was answered in the very next post.
That subject was closed - Until - You thought it a wise thing to council Newbies to apparently run as many applications as they could i.e.
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Shrink isn't too bad - do a CTRL ALT DELETE and look for Shrink. Right click and set the priority to low. That way you can browse the net or whatever and it will use CPU idle time. If you don't the PC it will switch to full CPU load.
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In theory you can use the PC when burning
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Using the PC when Shrink is running will do nothing more than slow it down a bit - as long as the process priority is set to low you can run Media Player or Winamp or load a browser and it wont kill the PC.
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In fact looking at your specs if that P4 is a HT CPU you can set one of the logical CPU's to shrink and the other to another process.
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If your PC is upto scratch it shouldn't make that much difference. I can run TMPGEnc and use the PC and it doesn't alter the encoding time at all.
Same with Shrink or DVD2One - obviously not using the PC will speed it up - but watch the overall time to complete a process - then load in Winamp and set an MP3 playing - the time doesn't really change.
However if you don't set the priority to Low you can't do anything with the PC as the software hogs all your CPU. It's just boring to sit and wait 20 mins for it to do it's thing, may as well browse the net or put a tune on.
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my PC is fast enough to run Shrink/DVD2ONE/TmpgEnc/Mainconcept etc etc and browse the net, play MP3's or all three.
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Also running, Opera, Zone Alarm, Bit Tornado, Yahoo Messenger and Winamp! It just doesn't effect it to the point were I worry. That's 61mins - it isn't gonna complete any quicker if I close all those apps. In fact it feels quicker as I am not sitting here watching a counter tick down
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I was just making the point that you can do all kinds of crap at the same time
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I also made it clear that I don't use the PC when I am burning DVD's
Actually buxton, you didn't make it clear - it was lightly mentioned between all of the things you deemed fine to do while encoding, re-encoding and burning DVD's - Not burning you say ? It was taken by inference -
And then you go over the edge by recommending "el Cheapo" media to Newbies - Now THAT won't cause anyone a problem will it ?
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I just counted my DVD's - 53 burns - not one coaster - and I use cheap Bulkpaq media - £6.99 for 25.
You have absolutely no idea what damage you have done by holding yourself up as an expert in DVD media. An expert you say ? Yes, that's what pple who come here think they're speaking with - and you certainly don't qualify as any type of knowledgeable individual in the matters of DVD media - You are a balloon filled with an overabundance of hot air -
You might spend some of that multi-tasking time you have in learning to read - where, for the love of God did you come up with this crap -
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I really didn't need someone coming on trying to make out I am all mouth and no substance. I wasn't converting and doing all the other shit I had running to make me sound all that -
Hey Arsehole, I said you were lucky ? LUCKY !! I said you were on a winning streak, LUCKY, you brain-dead idiot, where did you get this crap you?re accusing me of saying ? Just wondering, have you been doing drugs ? You have been doing things that have caused others, many, many others difficulty in their endeavors to backup their first DVD. You?ve been doing those things with nary a problem. LUCKY, ya . . . . . what did you say about yourself ? Oooohhh yea, here it is -
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I am all mouth and no substance.
Thank you, I would never have thought to say that about you -
I can only pray that not that many new comers will see these recommendations of yours because for everyone that follows your lead we'll spend hours and hours trying to help them get themselves sorted out.
Why would I say that, you ask ? Because I have posted thousands of posts doing just that - and you have what ? 100 major contributions ? What experience you must have in the field of media and DVD processing - makes my piddling 650 + DVD backups seem inconsequential.
Take it down a notch there buxton, trying to convince new comers that they can do backups as a side-line because it shouldn?t really interrupt their normal multi-tasking isn't the way to go, trust me - do it yourself - don't suggest to others it is a fine thing to do -
and please, learn to read the words that are written and not some Walt Disney dialogue you have running around in your head before you answer - it looks like you haven't been paying attention -
Then again, maybe you haven't -
And ScubaPete said that !
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26. July 2004 @ 14:46 |
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Good practice is to not do anything with the PC when Burning. Also with all the adding/deleting of large files (4Gb+)keep the Hard Disk Defragged every few weeks, stops the buffer going mad.
MY STANCE ON BURNING DVD's - DOES THAT NOT MAKE IT CLEAR.
Because burning to DVD and then using resources can cause the buffer to go erratic - that can arse the DVD up. Costs money. In theory you can use the PC when burning - if I am backing up data to CD I use the PC - but never with DVD's.
OR THAT.
Clearly it's a matter of preference - my PC is fast enough to run Shrink/DVD2ONE/TmpgEnc/Mainconcept etc etc and browse the net, play MP3's or all three.
DOES THAT IN ANY WAY TELL SOMEONE TO DO WHAT I SAY?
I just counted my DVD's - 53 burns - not one coaster - and I use cheap Bulkpaq media - £6.99 for 25
IS THAT A RECCOMENDATION? AND HOW EXACTLY IS THAT ME BLOWING MY OWN TRUMPET ON MY PROFFESIONAL STATUS AS FAR AS DVD MEDIA GOES - I AM GIVING YOU A STATEMENT OF FACT - IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT FAIR ENOUGH IT A FREE COUNTRY.
The Thread was closed was it? Deemed by who? You? This was already running before you jumped in and started throwing insults! I wasn't even speaking to you - I was giving an honest answer to an innocent question. You say you you would never have thought to call me "Mouth and no Substance" READ those 5 points you posted, posted I might add with NO justification, that's exctly what you were infering. What made you take that line out of the blue I have no idea. And you say I am on drugs, thanks for that one as well.
Anyone would think I was on here flaming and causing agro.
All the other bits I wrote because Flip218 asked me
Quote "So your saying when shrink is going through the analyizing and encoding process ... using the pc won't hurt anything other than slow the process down?"
Once again, another conversation that had nothing to do with you. If I am so wrong then why does Shrink offer the option of running in "Low Priority Mode" - of what use do you suppose that is other than allowing you to do other things when an application is running.
And then just to clarify what I said I put
I am not saying everyone should run 40 apps when doing conversions or burns. He wanted to know if it will damage his PC - all I am saying is no it wont.
Is that an incorrect statement.
Were did I get all that crap I am accusing you of saying - I copied and pasted your post. You typed it, not me.
I then tried to be a bit diplomatic and posted
"I can take a joke - but that got a bit personal. Or maybe his intentions were fair, I dunno."
As in maybe I misread were you were coming from, it seemed personal, but maybe I read you wrong! Going of your final reply I was right first time, it was an unprovoked personal attack. LUCK! Luck has sod all to do with it. It simply works fine on my PC - what do you want an appology?
You don't agree with my methods, fine, don't do it. At no point did I say he should do it, it was an honest attempt to show someone new to PC's that he will not do damage to his PC and they are quite robust.
"I can only pray that not that many new comers will see these recommendations of yours because for everyone that follows your lead we'll spend hours and hours trying to help them get themselves sorted out."
Well they wont, because at no point in anything I typed did I ever use the pretext "I reccomend you do this" Yeah I may only have 100 posts - go through them, see how many thanks I have, see how many people have got their issue sorted, see how many said thanks for the advice. YOU are the only one that has a problem - even the other three/four posters to this thread didn't seem to take it the way you did.
If I am so wrong about what you jumped in and posted feel free to say what you were getting at, if it wasn't personal towards me fine - I am wrong - However it came across that way and you made no attempt to say that's not what you were infering.
I think I made it quite clear that when I burn DVD's I dont use the PC - and don't reccomend you do.
I also made it clear that you can encode DivX whilst running another application - sorry but I would rather browse the net than watch a counter ticking down.
So you dove in and called me an Arshole, Braindead Drug user for no reason - what a nice man.
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So you dove in and called me an Arshole, Braindead Drug user for no reason - what a nice man.
You certainly have difficulty reading words in the order that they were written -
That quote was in response to your tirade about a good-humored post - that was a statement to someone who has no idea that when someone says they are LUCKY, it is what they mean. By saying you were Lucky, that you were on a winning streak did not translate to -
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someone coming on trying to make out I am all mouth and no substance. I wasn't converting and doing all the other shit I had running to make me sound all that
No you don't have to say, "I RECOMMEND this or that." - posting here, in these forums, pple assume you are an expert.
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I just counted my DVD's - 53 burns - not one coaster - and I use cheap Bulkpaq media - £6.99 for 25
Is a recommendation, PERIOD !
My impression is that you are extremely paranoid, thinking everyone is out to get you - Anyone reading my original post would see nothing in it at all. No name calling, no personal attacks. Before you took off on me there was no hostility anywhere. I question your sanity and your grasp of reality. No one called you a drug user, jokingly a yes or no query was made - How you converted that into a slanderous statement again, you have me at a loss -
I think this has gone far enough -
As we say in Scubaland,
Sea Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa -
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26. July 2004 @ 17:01 |
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