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High fidelity Pono portable music player crushes Kickstarter funding goals in less than a day
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article published on 12 March, 2014
Pono, the high-fidelity portable music player, has already surpassed its Kickstarter goal.
The player had a goal of $800,000 which was reached in under 24 hours, and 6,476 backers have contributed $2,112,066.
Pono Players will cost $399 when they launch at retail in October, but 100 lucky backers got it for $199 and all other Kickstarter backers can get it for $299.
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13. March 2014 @ 03:50 |
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It looks like a pile of do do to me!
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zxe
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13. March 2014 @ 06:39 |
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have to say nothing new, nice blurb, but not really saying anything
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ivymike
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13. March 2014 @ 07:03 |
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It IS something new when an online music store actually sells Hi-Def FLAC song tracks for digital download. How many other music stores do you know of that do that???
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rocky38
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13. March 2014 @ 07:41 |
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...for those special occasions....
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scorpNZ
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13. March 2014 @ 17:05 |
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Interesting the spec edition has your choice of signed unit by a number of artists,neil young it seems is the founder of pono music,i hope this unit succeeds however it will require a lot more storage space than currently provided that & an fm tuner & i'd buy one at a later date,
"64GB of internal memory and a removable 64GB microSD card included (128GB total)"
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13. March 2014 @ 17:44 |
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Originally posted by scorpNZ:
...i hope this unit succeeds however it will require a lot more storage space than currently provided that & an fm tuner & i'd buy one at a later date,
"64GB of internal memory and a removable 64GB microSD card included (128GB total)"
Good specs don't necessarily mean success. i.e. Zune.
That being said, I'm still rockin' my 120GB Zune, but I admit it's getting long in the tooth. I absolutely refuse to buy an iPod to replace it, but this Pono look like a nice upgrade.
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ivymike
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13. March 2014 @ 18:01 |
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There was an earlier news article here on AfterDawn about 128 Gb MicroSD cards......Hopefully they will be compatible with the Pono. If not would be a big no-no.
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13. March 2014 @ 20:14 |
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Yeah,64GB is not very much room for FLAC tracks..
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13. March 2014 @ 21:39 |
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So what puts this thing above other currently available audiophile players?
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13. March 2014 @ 22:59 |
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Doubles as a High Fidelity door stop.
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13. March 2014 @ 23:41 |
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Originally posted by ivymike:
It IS something new when an online music store actually sells Hi-Def FLAC song tracks for digital download. How many other music stores do you know of that do that???
It comes down to that I guess. You should be able to buy the tracks for any device that can play it.
$300-400 and I actually find it a bit uggers.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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xtago
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14. March 2014 @ 10:14 |
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it needs to do other formats.
so far the sony walkman is the best I've seen so far.
this has the 2 outputs which would be good, but with only 1 format and mem card only there's not much going for it.
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14. March 2014 @ 10:24 |
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Surely it does other formats.
I think the real point is the Hi-Def FLAC store.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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14. March 2014 @ 11:54 |
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Originally posted by Dragon3000:
It looks like a pile of do do to me!
Why so many haters? There are a lot of ppl that actually like quality hi-def high quality music, instead of all of the lossy 192kbps crap that u download. It's not like its a Samsung!
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14. March 2014 @ 13:37 |
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This is an audiophile device, you are not going to find an FM tuner or any stupid BS like that. There is a large demand in the audiophile community and at this price point it is a great deal for those specs. There are plenty other companies offering similar devices that will compete with this, but not to the extent that Pono has taken it. They should be able to sell a few hundred thousand to people that will actually use it for it's intended high end purpose. And surely many more than that will buy it because it looks unique but will only load it with shitty mp3's, lol
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14. March 2014 @ 15:47 |
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They really need to do something about the shape, for a port device i would'a thought flat would be more sensible than a triangle in your top pocket or wherever ,it would've been better to have a recess incorporated into the rear for a hinged stand type thingy ,instead it looks like it's more for bench/desktop etc display,portable it may be practical it ain't especially if you want to use it while working & you want to listen to music thru a headset i.e a building site,outdoors etc
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14. March 2014 @ 16:41 |
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Originally posted by xtago:
it needs to do other formats.
It play: FLAC, ALAC, mp3, mp3S, WAV, AIFF, AAC.
Originally posted by xtago:
..this has the 2 outputs which would be good, but with only 1 format and mem card only there's not much going for it.
It miss an USB port.
When they made a FLAC-Player with speakers ["It could sound better that Bose"] :) ♥ ♪ ♬ ♫ ♡ ♥ & change their stupid triangular shape: I'll probably buy one. (Oh & please NO-Yellow).
Others 8 FLAC Players:
http://www.techshout.com/features/2012/27/best-flac-players/
Other FLAC sources:
http://www.musiczeit.com/
http://zunior.com/
http://www.linnrecords.com/catalogue.aspx?format=studio
I just happy that the NEX series from Pioneer DJ-VJ player & the Euroradio network already are supporting the FLAC Format.
BUT:
1.- FLAC still a loss-less Digital-compressed format at 50% to 60% (-2x) of his original source & decompressed back to his original source.
Unless http://www.ponomusic.com/ do it directly from the Master-recording one song at the time it can be "convinced". Any other option: I just skeptical a 100%.
2.- Audio engineers, citing scientific studies that found NO audible difference between a CD Format at 16-bit/44.1kHz and FLAC Format at 24-bit/192kHz formats.
3.- I don't think people will re-buy their music on Vinyls or CD's again, like it happen with the VHS -> DVD -> BR formats !?
4.- "Probably" very few people will start buying only new music on FLAC.
P.S.
I think the New FLAC hype. is just a FAD just like it was the -7x Digital compressed MP3's. or MP3 players long time ago; or the laughable conversion of 2D movies to 3D.
Just saying.
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The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. March 2014 @ 20:41
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14. March 2014 @ 20:58 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Just saying.
Interesting and thanks for the links.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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Mez
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14. March 2014 @ 21:07 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Originally posted by xtago:
it needs to do other formats.
It play: FLAC, ALAC, mp3, mp3S, WAV, AIFF, AAC.
Originally posted by xtago:
..this has the 2 outputs which would be good, but with only 1 format and mem card only there's not much going for it.
It miss an USB port.
When they made a FLAC-Player with speakers ["It could sound better that Bose"] :) ♥ ♪ ♬ ♫ ♡ ♥ & change their stupid triangular shape: I'll probably buy one. (Oh & please NO-Yellow).
Others 8 FLAC Players:
http://www.techshout.com/features/2012/27/best-flac-players/
Other FLAC sources:
http://www.musiczeit.com/
http://zunior.com/
http://www.linnrecords.com/catalogue.aspx?format=studio
I just happy that the NEX series from Pioneer DJ-VJ player & the Euroradio network already are supporting the FLAC Format.
BUT:
1.- FLAC still a loss-less Digital-compressed format at 50% to 60% (-2x) of his original source & decompressed back to his original source.
Unless http://www.ponomusic.com/ do it directly from the Master-recording one song at the time it can be "convinced". Any other option: I just skeptical a 100%.
2.- Audio engineers, citing scientific studies that found NO audible difference between a CD Format at 16-bit/44.1kHz and FLAC Format at 24-bit/192kHz formats.
3.- I don't think people will re-buy their music on Vinyls or CD's again, like it happen with the VHS -> DVD -> BR formats !?
4.- "Probably" very few people will start buying only new music on FLAC.
P.S.
I think the New FLAC hype. is just a FAD just like it was the -7x Digital compressed MP3's. or MP3 players long time ago; or the laughable conversion of 2D movies to 3D.
Just saying.
I agree. People can spend their money anyway they want and there are pleanty of people that like to believe they can tell the difference between lossless and a well made lossy but none that I have met are willing to blind test. I know one who claims he can tell wave from flac and prefers wave. Lossless, will faithfully reproduce up to 20,000 hz. High end mps faithfully reproduce up to 19,500 hz. Even if you could hear either of them which you can't unless you are a teenager, is like claiming you can taste a 2% less salt in a bowl of chile. These people are technically ignorant and prefer to stay that way.
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14. March 2014 @ 22:57 |
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Your friend is not telling the difference between format types more likely the bitrate,If anyone really wants a headache about sound perception take a gander at the link,personally it's all greek to me all i know is an mp3 of any kb rate sux,flac rocks & multi channels the best if you want real depth as tho you were there
http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/acoustics/pitch.htm
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Tarsellis
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15. March 2014 @ 13:46 |
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FLAC doesn't do you squat when the master is over-compressed and crap anyways. Nice advertising, fail function. Until the studios start changing how things are mastered, and start using more than two channels, then we'll still be stuck with noise for mass consumption, instead of music for private listening.
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15. March 2014 @ 17:29 |
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Originally posted by Tarsellis:
FLAC doesn't do you squat when the master is over-compressed and crap anyways. Nice advertising, fail function. Until the studios start changing how things are mastered, and start using more than two channels, then we'll still be stuck with noise for mass consumption, instead of music for private listening.
Agree:
But music is like Hollywood Movies. Low budget studios for shitty music and Big budget studios with shitty Audio engineers making the Master-Recordings.
Very few Master-Recording albums have a great sound (Out of 10K albums, I can count them with my fingers) and we can hear it on printed Vinyls or CD's first batch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 15. March 2014 @ 18:26
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16. March 2014 @ 00:09 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Very few Master-Recording albums have a great sound (Out of 10K albums, I can count them with my fingers) and we can hear it on printed Vinyls or CD's first batch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
Dammit! I actually like some of those artists on the end list.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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Mez
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16. March 2014 @ 19:35 |
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Originally posted by Tarsellis:
FLAC doesn't do you squat when the master is over-compressed and crap anyways. Nice advertising, fail function. Until the studios start changing how things are mastered, and start using more than two channels, then we'll still be stuck with noise for mass consumption, instead of music for private listening.
They compress the music so it can be played louder. Most music lovers prefer louder music because you can hear the highs and lows better so it actually does sound better. Better is different so some consider that tainted. I don't get bent out of shape about it. Some liken this to some subversive plot. They ougt to try selling both versions for some of the more popular recordings.
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Mez
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16. March 2014 @ 19:40 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Originally posted by Tarsellis:
FLAC doesn't do you squat when the master is over-compressed and crap anyways. Nice advertising, fail function. Until the studios start changing how things are mastered, and start using more than two channels, then we'll still be stuck with noise for mass consumption, instead of music for private listening.
Agree:
But music is like Hollywood Movies. Low budget studios for shitty music and Big budget studios with shitty Audio engineers making the Master-Recordings.
Very few Master-Recording albums have a great sound (Out of 10K albums, I can count them with my fingers) and we can hear it on printed Vinyls or CD's first batch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
Mrguss, what do you consider great sound? Music is about as subjective as any art. I don't think a dot on a canvas is art but many do.
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