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Comcast wants to mandate monthly bandwidth caps for all
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article published on 16 May, 2014
According to Comcast executive David Cohen, the U.S.' largest cable and Internet provider is looking to make bandwidth caps mandatory for every customer within the next five years.
Within the time frame, Cohen says he expects the company to move completely to the controversial "usage-based model."
"I would also predict that the vast majority of our customers would never be caught in ... [ read the full article ]
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ivymike
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16. May 2014 @ 22:53 |
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Time for me to look for a different ISP.....
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16. May 2014 @ 23:37 |
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WTF Comcast?? Your customers pay for pipe speed and not what is sent down that pipe. Bandwidth is not a consumable item like water or gas or electricity. It is just an open pipe for speed of data transfer to content on the internet which you do not control. Why these ISPs cannot get that through their thick skull is beyond me.
I can say for sure that any house that is a gamer that downloads games digitally will go over that cap by downloading 1 game and seeing as consoles and PCs are going digital and media content is going streaming even 5GB will not be enough. Bandwidth caps are a joke and ISPs pushing them are nothing but greedy a-holes because they think they can charge you for content that is not theirs. It is like selling a water hose but only allowing so much water to go through it before you have to pay a fee. The hose maker does not supply the water, just the pipe to allow the water to flow.
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Clam_Up
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17. May 2014 @ 00:06 |
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Just a little clarification here: bandwidth is a measure of speed, not quantity. All ISPs that I know of have implemented bandwidth caps, measured in bits per second, since forever. That's really nothing new.
The article is really referring to a data cap, or a limit of overall data allowed.
It's a pet peeve of mine. It's kind of like misrepresenting a light year to be a measure of time rather than what it really is: a measure of distance.
When laws allow unlimited ownership of ideas, it is to a society as iron fusion is to the core of a star.
When verified realities lead us to anger, we must learn to reevaluate our beliefs.
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MagengarZ
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17. May 2014 @ 03:06 |
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Comcast can go F themselves. There will be ways around it.
I hope TWC (the lesser of two evils) turns down Comcast
and tells them to go eat s#1t.
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Motomatt
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17. May 2014 @ 08:25 |
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How about a refund every month on all the stupid channels they make me pay for that I don't watch.. Comcast go f yourself..greedy pricks.
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17. May 2014 @ 12:20 |
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Originally posted by Motomatt:
How about a refund every month on all the stupid channels they make me pay for that I don't watch.. Comcast go f yourself..greedy pricks.
Nope...they have a government enforced monopoly and they are going to use it. Charge Netflix to stream to you, then charge you extra for going over your cap by watching Netflix, then charge you for 150 channels when you only watch 5, 3 of which you could get with rabbit ears. The fact is that they can get away with it because they have a monopoly in most areas, and even if they don't buy TWC, TWC will probably do the same thing because they have monopolies in most areas too. Of course anywhere that you can get FiOS or Google Fiber, or some other service TWC and Comcast will drop rates, increase or eliminate the caps, and then talk about how much competition is hurting them in spite of still making a killing.
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Motomatt
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17. May 2014 @ 13:07 |
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I just figured since they were buying time Warner for 42 billion they could throw a few bucks my way for the services I don't use.
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17. May 2014 @ 13:55 |
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Originally posted by Motomatt:
I just figured since they were buying time Warner for 42 billion they could throw a few bucks my way for the services I don't use.
You got that backwards...you have to throw in some of the 42 billion.
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Motomatt
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17. May 2014 @ 14:16 |
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I do every month. Almost 160$ for 5 channels and a internet connection that works sometimes.
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17. May 2014 @ 15:28 |
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Originally posted by Motomatt:
I do every month. Almost 160$ for 5 channels and a internet connection that works sometimes.
Yes...but they want to do this buyout without affecting their current profit margins.
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mightyzog
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18. May 2014 @ 16:02 |
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Being a time warner customer... If the merger happens, I'm glad that Fios is already installed in my house. All these douchebags can go "F" themselves. I have no loyalty and am ready to switch.
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18. May 2014 @ 16:24 |
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Originally posted by Clam_Up:
Just a little clarification here: bandwidth is a measure of speed, not quantity. All ISPs that I know of have implemented bandwidth caps, measured in bits per second, since forever. That's really nothing new.
The article is really referring to a data cap, or a limit of overall data allowed.
It's a pet peeve of mine. It's kind of like misrepresenting a light year to be a measure of time rather than what it really is: a measure of distance.
Not to them thus it either means the totality of the service or data cap.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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brianp480
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18. May 2014 @ 16:34 |
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ComCRAP blows. Everyone knows this. However, bandwidth caps are not a big deal. This will not affect 95% of their customers what so ever. Myself, I have Uverse and use the shit out of the internet...I've never once hit the cap. I have the choice of Comcrap, WOW, Uverse and satellite. WOW has no caps, but their t.v. service sucks...even the "Ultra Service" I wouldn't have Comcrap if it was the last company on earth. As a business, they are pure evil. Satellite is nice tv picture but slow and expensive internet. Uverse is beautiful tv picture, no lag between channels and very user friendly. Their internet has a cap and isn't the fastest...I have 24 mb/s. My kids game with it and I download movies etc. Works fine. I'm sorry, I'll sacrifice some speed any day of the week, as long as I don't have to have Comcrap!!!
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ivymike
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18. May 2014 @ 20:13 |
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I guess my days of downloading Blu-Ray movies off of Usenet are over, LOL.
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MagengarZ
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19. May 2014 @ 01:12 |
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Originally posted by ivymike:
I guess my days of downloading Blu-Ray movies off of Usenet are over, LOL.
Ditto; but I don't use those netflix-type sites.
I get my flix off trrent.
Now on That note, my question is: would this
komcast invasion affect my Uploads (I also share
stuff back to trrent)
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19. May 2014 @ 17:30 |
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Originally posted by brianp480:
ComCRAP blows. Everyone knows this. However, bandwidth caps are not a big deal. This will not affect 95% of their customers what so ever. Myself, I have Uverse and use the shit out of the internet...I've never once hit the cap. I have the choice of Comcrap, WOW, Uverse and satellite. WOW has no caps, but their t.v. service sucks...even the "Ultra Service" I wouldn't have Comcrap if it was the last company on earth. As a business, they are pure evil. Satellite is nice tv picture but slow and expensive internet. Uverse is beautiful tv picture, no lag between channels and very user friendly. Their internet has a cap and isn't the fastest...I have 24 mb/s. My kids game with it and I download movies etc. Works fine. I'm sorry, I'll sacrifice some speed any day of the week, as long as I don't have to have Comcrap!!!
Uverse has a 250GB monthly cap...and yes, I am guessing that with only 24mbps it is rather difficult to go over that (netflix can't even run at high quality with such low speeds). But all of comcast's caps have been under 20GB...that's pretty easy to go over. Heck my phone has a 12GB cap and I am usually at 75% before the 17th of the month (with cycle resetting on the 2nd). Why? Netflix and remote desktop. And no...these services are not excessive when you consider that a single bluray can be 50GB and a gamer can easily download that many games from the Xbox/Playstation stores in a single month (and then use a lot more data playing online, while someone else in the house is watching netflix).
Data caps are always sold as, "95% don't go over this much"...this is perhaps the worst part, as it is based on past data of casual users. Technology doesn't stop. Video gets bigger, software gets bigger, devices get faster, and mobile devices get bigger screens. The cost of operating an ISP (at least in terms of $/GB) drops and drops while bills go up and up, and now they even charge services like Netflix to do the ISP a favor by integrating their networks in order to lower the overhead costs of the ISPs...and yet they still want limits to make sure no one customer costs them more than 2% of that they are charging! It is Ma Bell all over again.
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hearme0
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20. May 2014 @ 23:52 |
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Originally posted by ivymike:
Time for me to look for a different ISP.....
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
300 or even 600 is more than enough for ANYONE (some essential exceptions of course) on a monthly basis.
Get a job, or a girlfriend and stop pirating shit like a leech and playing online video games all day while living rent-free at your mommy's house and perhaps you won't exceed the as-is MASSIVE limit.
Or perhaps you're just complaining to complain and making a stance against Comcast for doing this........which I doubt as it's been in place for a long time for many people and few complaints have been made. I know, I live in an area such as this.
Keep this in mind.......if this move from Comcast angers or offends you.....it's likely because you're a rampant pirate that really doesn't ever "buy" anything.
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MagengarZ
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21. May 2014 @ 01:17 |
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Originally posted by hearme0:
Originally posted by ivymike:
Time for me to look for a different ISP.....
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
300 or even 600 is more than enough for ANYONE (some essential exceptions of course) on a monthly basis.
Get a job, or a girlfriend and stop pirating shit like a leech and playing online video games all day while living rent-free at your mommy's house and perhaps you won't exceed the as-is MASSIVE limit.
Or perhaps you're just complaining to complain and making a stance against Comcast for doing this........which I doubt as it's been in place for a long time for many people and few complaints have been made. I know, I live in an area such as this.
Keep this in mind.......if this move from Comcast angers or offends you.....it's likely because you're a rampant pirate that really doesn't ever "buy" anything.
LOL! I admit, I have to agree with THAT!
In fact, every cable company that has existed, while providing Internet service (usually in their cable TV bundles) has always capped bandwidth from the get-go...
Credit that to the foresight of evolving data technology in the form of home electronics connecting wired or wirelessly to the internet in some way. And it's happening already, with lazy home bodies playing games online, Sexting online, sending emails, sharing torrent files, streaming movies, Xbox live online, cellular and mobile pads online, even granny's vibrator downloading the latest and greatest titilations from the net,
you name it, all that stuff going on in a single home at one time will certainly use up lotsa bandwidth.
And ISPs have to keep up with all that mad traffic!
I could be wrong, but that's what it all looks like to me.
So then, this Comcast thing is nothing new. I just look at them as a greedy company looking to take over the internet/cable TV industry. Sooner or later two or more companies will buy one another out, merge, become one giant company, and will
conquer all and of course cap bandwidth to avoid server overload, and to protect us all from (some new stupid trendy buzzword)
"Electronic Pollution"... just wait and see.
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21. May 2014 @ 08:03 |
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Originally posted by hearme0:
Originally posted by ivymike:
Time for me to look for a different ISP.....
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
300 or even 600 is more than enough for ANYONE (some essential exceptions of course) on a monthly basis.
Get a job, or a girlfriend and stop pirating shit like a leech and playing online video games all day while living rent-free at your mommy's house and perhaps you won't exceed the as-is MASSIVE limit.
Or perhaps you're just complaining to complain and making a stance against Comcast for doing this........which I doubt as it's been in place for a long time for many people and few complaints have been made. I know, I live in an area such as this.
Keep this in mind.......if this move from Comcast angers or offends you.....it's likely because you're a rampant pirate that really doesn't ever "buy" anything.
Nope, add a family of 2+ MMO plus streaming film plus streaming music all that adds up very quickly, unless you keep your kids off the net you are doomed to hit their magical limit and pay more money.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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MagengarZ
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21. May 2014 @ 08:21 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by hearme0:
Originally posted by ivymike:
Time for me to look for a different ISP.....
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
300 or even 600 is more than enough for ANYONE (some essential exceptions of course) on a monthly basis.
Get a job, or a girlfriend and stop pirating shit like a leech and playing online video games all day while living rent-free at your mommy's house and perhaps you won't exceed the as-is MASSIVE limit.
Or perhaps you're just complaining to complain and making a stance against Comcast for doing this........which I doubt as it's been in place for a long time for many people and few complaints have been made. I know, I live in an area such as this.
Keep this in mind.......if this move from Comcast angers or offends you.....it's likely because you're a rampant pirate that really doesn't ever "buy" anything.
Nope, add a family of 2+ MMO plus streaming film plus streaming music all that adds up very quickly, unless you keep your kids off the net you are doomed to hit their magical limit and pay more money.
BOOM! So it seems I was right about a few things.
That's the thriller-killer right there: so many kids in the home online...... definite data eaters.
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21. May 2014 @ 08:38 |
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Originally posted by MagengarZ:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by hearme0:
Originally posted by ivymike:
Time for me to look for a different ISP.....
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
300 or even 600 is more than enough for ANYONE (some essential exceptions of course) on a monthly basis.
Get a job, or a girlfriend and stop pirating shit like a leech and playing online video games all day while living rent-free at your mommy's house and perhaps you won't exceed the as-is MASSIVE limit.
Or perhaps you're just complaining to complain and making a stance against Comcast for doing this........which I doubt as it's been in place for a long time for many people and few complaints have been made. I know, I live in an area such as this.
Keep this in mind.......if this move from Comcast angers or offends you.....it's likely because you're a rampant pirate that really doesn't ever "buy" anything.
Nope, add a family of 2+ MMO plus streaming film plus streaming music all that adds up very quickly, unless you keep your kids off the net you are doomed to hit their magical limit and pay more money.
BOOM! So it seems I was right about a few things.
That's the thriller-killer right there: so many kids in the home online...... definite data eaters.
Sure the nerds use it more but thats only because we know how to use it and Comcast hates that. Ussssssssss....one of uusssss...... er sorry...
"Us" aside kids eat data like mad you have more than 1 and they use the net more than you you'll be paying out your ass just to keep the internet going.
So metered rates and data caps should be illegal.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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MagengarZ
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21. May 2014 @ 09:46 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by MagengarZ:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by hearme0:
Originally posted by ivymike:
Time for me to look for a different ISP.....
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
300 or even 600 is more than enough for ANYONE (some essential exceptions of course) on a monthly basis.
Get a job, or a girlfriend and stop pirating shit like a leech and playing online video games all day while living rent-free at your mommy's house and perhaps you won't exceed the as-is MASSIVE limit.
Or perhaps you're just complaining to complain and making a stance against Comcast for doing this........which I doubt as it's been in place for a long time for many people and few complaints have been made. I know, I live in an area such as this.
Keep this in mind.......if this move from Comcast angers or offends you.....it's likely because you're a rampant pirate that really doesn't ever "buy" anything.
Nope, add a family of 2+ MMO plus streaming film plus streaming music all that adds up very quickly, unless you keep your kids off the net you are doomed to hit their magical limit and pay more money.
BOOM! So it seems I was right about a few things.
That's the thriller-killer right there: so many kids in the home online...... definite data eaters.
Sure the nerds use it more but thats only because we know how to use it and Comcast hates that. Ussssssssss....one of uusssss...... er sorry...
"Us" aside kids eat data like mad you have more than 1 and they use the net more than you you'll be paying out your ass just to keep the internet going.
So metered rates and data caps should be illegal.
I'm glad I don't have any kids.
However.... I have 3 roommates. One is on facebook most of the day, and her boyfriend plays Xbox all evening, and her mom is on facebook playing games online all night.
And I go online whenever I can. Yeah, we're 4 bigazz 'kids'! lol
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21. May 2014 @ 09:55 |
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Originally posted by MagengarZ:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by MagengarZ:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by hearme0:
Originally posted by ivymike:
Time for me to look for a different ISP.....
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
300 or even 600 is more than enough for ANYONE (some essential exceptions of course) on a monthly basis.
Get a job, or a girlfriend and stop pirating shit like a leech and playing online video games all day while living rent-free at your mommy's house and perhaps you won't exceed the as-is MASSIVE limit.
Or perhaps you're just complaining to complain and making a stance against Comcast for doing this........which I doubt as it's been in place for a long time for many people and few complaints have been made. I know, I live in an area such as this.
Keep this in mind.......if this move from Comcast angers or offends you.....it's likely because you're a rampant pirate that really doesn't ever "buy" anything.
Nope, add a family of 2+ MMO plus streaming film plus streaming music all that adds up very quickly, unless you keep your kids off the net you are doomed to hit their magical limit and pay more money.
BOOM! So it seems I was right about a few things.
That's the thriller-killer right there: so many kids in the home online...... definite data eaters.
Sure the nerds use it more but thats only because we know how to use it and Comcast hates that. Ussssssssss....one of uusssss...... er sorry...
"Us" aside kids eat data like mad you have more than 1 and they use the net more than you you'll be paying out your ass just to keep the internet going.
So metered rates and data caps should be illegal.
I'm glad I don't have any kids.
However.... I have 3 roommates. One is on facebook most of the day, and her boyfriend plays Xbox all evening, and her mom is on facebook playing games online all night.
And I go online whenever I can. Yeah, we're 4 bigazz 'kids'! lol
Thats why I don't have kids either, besides I am too immature and crazy(mostly crazy) to have kids.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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dfordcraw
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23. May 2014 @ 10:19 |
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A bandwidth cap will make it very difficult to back up much data over the web. The proposed caps will not even cover the back up a single hard drive of modest size.
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MagengarZ
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23. May 2014 @ 15:33 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by MagengarZ:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by MagengarZ:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by hearme0:
Originally posted by ivymike:
Time for me to look for a different ISP.....
WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
300 or even 600 is more than enough for ANYONE (some essential exceptions of course) on a monthly basis.
Get a job, or a girlfriend and stop pirating shit like a leech and playing online video games all day while living rent-free at your mommy's house and perhaps you won't exceed the as-is MASSIVE limit.
Or perhaps you're just complaining to complain and making a stance against Comcast for doing this........which I doubt as it's been in place for a long time for many people and few complaints have been made. I know, I live in an area such as this.
Keep this in mind.......if this move from Comcast angers or offends you.....it's likely because you're a rampant pirate that really doesn't ever "buy" anything.
Nope, add a family of 2+ MMO plus streaming film plus streaming music all that adds up very quickly, unless you keep your kids off the net you are doomed to hit their magical limit and pay more money.
BOOM! So it seems I was right about a few things.
That's the thriller-killer right there: so many kids in the home online...... definite data eaters.
Sure the nerds use it more but thats only because we know how to use it and Comcast hates that. Ussssssssss....one of uusssss...... er sorry...
"Us" aside kids eat data like mad you have more than 1 and they use the net more than you you'll be paying out your ass just to keep the internet going.
So metered rates and data caps should be illegal.
I'm glad I don't have any kids.
However.... I have 3 roommates. One is on facebook most of the day, and her boyfriend plays Xbox all evening, and her mom is on facebook playing games online all night.
And I go online whenever I can. Yeah, we're 4 bigazz 'kids'! lol
Thats why I don't have kids either, besides I am too immature and crazy(mostly crazy) to have kids.
You're not immature nor crazy... you made what you felt was a wise decision. You'll have kids someday when you feel you are ready to start a family, because that choice will come from your heart and not from 'either head'. lol
But that goes to show what this current and future generations are faced with, as far as having additional members in the household connecting online in some electronic form.
As long as this electronic data exchange technology continues to grow and evolve, most everything will be done online and more bandwidth will be in high demand...
...perhaps to a point when folks in the same house will hardly
get to see each other; because the kids are in their rooms online,
or boyfriend's up all night in the other room playing Xbox while the girlfriend is stuck all alone Waiting for him to finally shut the game off and come to bed, or Dad's in the den doing his business reports online, or mom's in the kitchen downloading cookbooks and recipes.
Jeez, as if That isn't happening already! lol
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