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Review: Nvidia SHIELD Tablet LTE and SHIELD Wireless Controller

article published on 7 August, 2014

After making an ill-received tablet last year and a better-received gaming handheld, Nvidia has come back with a vengeance combining the two with the new Shield Tablet. The device, which is a full Android tablet at its core, can double as a gaming console, adding much more functionality than standalone devices can offer. Nvidia, which rules the PC video card market, knows gaming and has ... [ read the full article ]

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hearme0
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7. August 2014 @ 15:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This thing is a wasteful piece of crap! There are barely any Android games that are worth using a controller and most are played out in a few short weeks. The specs suck! Nothing new or innovative and I'd bet my ass that Nvidia requires an actual Nvidia card on PC to stream, whereas most requirements show a need for EITHER Nvidia or AMD and a minimum model of card to be used for BOTH. Nvidia trying to remain relevant .......clearly they're desperate. AMD is better!
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Bozobub
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7. August 2014 @ 22:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dude, calm down.

Yes, it requires a specific minimum-level nVidia card to stream PC games. It says so right in the article:
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hint: it must have a Nvidia GeForce 650 or higher
It's not like they hide the requirement.

The specs ARE damn good, from what's put forth here; "destroys the competition" is pretty definite. And guess what? Sure, many Android games are kinda "meh", I agree, but the emulation possibilities are very impressive. I already regularly play PS1 and PSP games quite handily (at full speed, yet) on my stinking Galaxy S3, which has nowhere near the hardware chops this thing has.

Furthermore, the game streaming capability will certainly attract a good number of players. I know quite a few people (although I'm not one of them) who play most of their PC games with a controller, rather than mouse/kb; several of them have already expressed interest to me in the new Shield tablet.

Sure, nVidia is aiming at a niche market with this device. So what? That niche will love the thing. If you aren't one of those people, just don't buy one. I won't either, for that matter, but I can certainly see how this new version (as opposed to the previous ones, which didn't quite make it IMO) can appeal to some folks.

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kutulu1
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10. August 2014 @ 21:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Bozobub:
Dude, calm down.

Yes, it requires a specific minimum-level nVidia card to stream PC games. It says so right in the article:
Quote:
hint: it must have a Nvidia GeForce 650 or higher
It's not like they hide the requirement.

The specs ARE damn good, from what's put forth here; "destroys the competition" is pretty definite. And guess what? Sure, many Android games are kinda "meh", I agree, but the emulation possibilities are very impressive. I already regularly play PS1 and PSP games quite handily (at full speed, yet) on my stinking Galaxy S3, which has nowhere near the hardware chops this thing has.

Furthermore, the game streaming capability will certainly attract a good number of players. I know quite a few people (although I'm not one of them) who play most of their PC games with a controller, rather than mouse/kb; several of them have already expressed interest to me in the new Shield tablet.

Sure, nVidia is aiming at a niche market with this device. So what? That niche will love the thing. If you aren't one of those people, just don't buy one. I won't either, for that matter, but I can certainly see how this new version (as opposed to the previous ones, which didn't quite make it IMO) can appeal to some folks.
Who would want to emulate PS1 and PSP games when there is already a portable that does that natively now; PSP....lol
Bozobub
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11. August 2014 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's a very silly question; how about, "Someone who doesn't own, or care to pay for a PS1/PSP?" for just one possible answer? The emulation market is actually rather strong. What, you thought ePSXe/FPSe (PS1) and PPSSPP (PSP) came to Android just for giggles..?

And that's just 2 of the systems there are excellent Android emulators for. You can also find:
- Nintendo GB/GB Color/GBA/DS.
- Sega Genesis/Master System.
- Colecovision.
- And so on.

Furthermore, you can also find Commodore 64, Amiga, Amstrad, and other early (or for Amiga, "early-ish" lol) PC emulators, for even more games and other emulation fun.

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hearme0
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11. August 2014 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Bozobub:
Dude, calm down.

Yes, it requires a specific minimum-level nVidia card to stream PC games. It says so right in the article:
Quote:
hint: it must have a Nvidia GeForce 650 or higher
It's not like they hide the requirement.

The specs ARE damn good, from what's put forth here; "destroys the competition" is pretty definite. And guess what? Sure, many Android games are kinda "meh", I agree, but the emulation possibilities are very impressive. I already regularly play PS1 and PSP games quite handily (at full speed, yet) on my stinking Galaxy S3, which has nowhere near the hardware chops this thing has.

Furthermore, the game streaming capability will certainly attract a good number of players. I know quite a few people (although I'm not one of them) who play most of their PC games with a controller, rather than mouse/kb; several of them have already expressed interest to me in the new Shield tablet.

Sure, nVidia is aiming at a niche market with this device. So what? That niche will love the thing. If you aren't one of those people, just don't buy one. I won't either, for that matter, but I can certainly see how this new version (as opposed to the previous ones, which didn't quite make it IMO) can appeal to some folks.
Seriously?!?!?!? Are you seriously clarifying? Look, 9.9 times out of 10 when manfrs call for "650 or higher" IT USUALLY AND ALMOST ALWAYS MEANS the "class of card" and you know this so don't take it so literally. Most techs will naturally assume that it is a 650 OR EQUIVALENT or higher regardless of the brand so reducing a streaming feature to those with NVidias only is not a good biz decision.

As for specs, this thing is run-of-the-mill and they are subpar at best. It's nothing new but if you like the specs then by all means..........waste your money.

Your mounted defense of this shows you're ready to buy!
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Bozobub
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11. August 2014 @ 17:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow, dude.

First off, nVidia has ALWAYS required an nVidia card for this function, for this product line. It's not a new thing. And
"it must have a Nvidia GeForce 650 or higher" is a VERY specific requirement! They'd say "or the equivalent", otherwise, as this also directly limits their potential market for the device, as you note yourself.

Second, the specs are pretty decent for the current wave of tablets have been announced recently, and quite good compared to the last wave, and that's before the graphics hardware is considered. The numbers simply don't support your rant.

Third, no, I WON'T be buying one of these, nor do I care to, or any tablet, actually. I do all of my gaming on an old-ish (but still competent, so far) desktop and a gaming laptop. I simply don't need another gaming platform, and any tablet functions, so far, I can accomplish quite easily on my Galaxy S3. In fact, I also emulate various game systems on all 3 of my current devices, and won't need a more powerful/alternate device for a long time =) . Furthermore, I only enjoy playing very specific games with a controller (mouse+kb FTW), and my graphics card is a 560 Ti, both of which also pretty much put the kibosh on the Shield for me.

My observation, as I clearly stated, was that for the marketing niche nVidia is directly addressing with the new Shield tablet, it has reasonably compelling specs, that nVidia has also been updating pretty aggressively, and so far, you have not presented a particularly convincing - or, sad to say, coherent - argument to the contrary.

So, yes, relax. I'm willing to listen, but frothing at the mouth simply is not debate.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. August 2014 @ 17:29

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