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Help me out Again, Backup Weird Results
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DarkBlade
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29. July 2004 @ 12:29 |
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Hi I have this problem now hope I get some help.
I have bought the Ritek G-04 DVD-R like advised on my other post.
But I have this problem now that never had before.
When I backup the DVD on DVD Shrink 3.1, and I burn it when I put on my DVD player It comes as VCD and doesn?t play, (my DVD player plays VCD just in case you may ask)
Not If I backup and burn with Nero 6.3 and do DVD-Video, my DVD player says CdRom and doest play, the only way can burn and play is if I use ImgTool then it plays the DVD.
But now while watching the DVD I get the screen going black and sound on the Background. Why is that?
It doest go black always on the same place, and never had problem before with the other backups.
So to recap why does Shrink 3.1 burn as VCD, and Why Nero burn as Cdrom, plus why the screen goes black while playing the DVD.
When i had the cheap DVD-R i never had this problem either with Nero or Shrink 3.1, weird files burn. but had to many DVD-r Damage due to the cheap DVD's
When I back up do you guy use Enable video preview or you un-tick does that makes any difference?
If you want have a look at my previews post.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/96177
Many thanks for looking
(BodyBag You Know It Make Sence)
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DarkBlade
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29. July 2004 @ 12:34 |
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sorry couple more things forgot to add.
I always let the original DVD to play for a bit before using DVD Shrink 3.1, I use PowerDVD.
What speed should I burn the DVD? Or makes no difference?
Thanks
(BodyBag You Know It Make Sence)
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DarkBlade
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29. July 2004 @ 21:43 |
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anyone out there?
(BodyBag You Know It Make Sence)
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29. July 2004 @ 21:46 |
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Is your burner's firmware up to date?
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DarkBlade
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29. July 2004 @ 22:17 |
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hi thanks finally a reply ;-)
no and my is a dvd burner is OPTORITE DVD RW DD0203,and dont know nothing about how to firmware, or were to get the files or whatever they are.
but i dint had this black screen problem with the other DVD-r only errors on burning them, but they did burn i have no problems on the TV.
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29. July 2004 @ 22:57 |
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So the only thing you did was change media? Well here's a firmware update from optorite.com
http://www.optorite.com/_english/web/1_product/3_download.php?hID=8
Next I would get the new Shrink v3.2(don't think this is your prob, but at least you'll get the newest version). Also uninstall and re-install Nero after you've done the firmware update for your burner.
Is this an external or internal burner?
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DarkBlade
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30. July 2004 @ 09:57 |
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Hi i have an internal burner.
the firmware bit looks a bit hard, doing thing on DOS i am not good on it.
but why would i need to mess with the firmware?
it burn without a problem.
i think that the backup DVD-r Overheats to fast
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DarkBlade
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30. July 2004 @ 11:54 |
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i cant belive no one can help me out, with more advise
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30. July 2004 @ 20:35 |
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i cant belive no one can help me out, with more advise
DarkBlade,
You need a little reminder. We are all here on our free time. My last post was at 11:57 PST(my time), and I get up at 4 am. And if you haven't noticed there are alot of thread on afterdawn, your may have been overlooked. Just look at my first post, I answered almost 10 hours later ... so have a lil patience.
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the firmware bit looks a bit hard, doing thing on DOS i am not good on it.
The firmware is off the optorite website, which means it's been tested for your drive and one they recommend. It's not a hack firmware flash. And isn't there instructions?
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but why would i need to mess with the firmware?
Because it makes sure your burner is up to date. For my TDK 840G, I had to update my firmware to make it more compatible with different media.
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i think that the backup DVD-r Overheats to fast
Oh boy!! What makes you think this?
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colw
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30. July 2004 @ 21:31 |
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DarkBlade
You were provided with very sound advice by Flip and chose to ignore it.
We cannot help people who are not prepared to help themselves.
People are willing to assist if you can clearly explain what your problems are and respond to requests for further information.
Demanding responses to unclear questions without trying suggested solutions will get you nowhere.
Your own diagnosis - i think that the backup DVD-r Overheats to fast does not make sense unless you are having heat related problems with your system.
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DarkBlade
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31. July 2004 @ 09:27 |
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hi sorry but i need to get this backups out of the way.
"i think that the backup DVD-r Overheats to fast"
when i play it on my home DVD player
"And isn't there instructions?"
nop or maybe only this in a read me file
1. Please upgarde your BIOS on REAL DOS mode, not VIRTUAL DOS.
2. Command: dvflash dv2.bin /f
MAKES NO SENCE TO ME.
"You were provided with very sound advice by Flip and chose to ignore it. "
i dint ignore it, is just cant understand that it not really related to my problem.
my original problems you guys telling me its all to do with firmware?
So to recap why does Shrink 3.1 burn as VCD, and Why Nero burn as Cdrom, plus why the screen goes black while playing the DVD.
what i dont understand is that never had this problems until i startet using the New DVD-r.
is like when i used the other DVD-r Nero never burn and they i tested on my Home DVD player cdrom format and Shrink never burn a VCD format.
"Your own diagnosis - i think that the backup DVD-r Overheats to fast does not make sense unless you are having heat related problems with your system. "
the DVD that i burn when i play on my HOME DVD not pc DVD player, is Always burning.
sorry to rush you guys, is just i dont know if i should post here or advance expert area.
i will wait with out complaning for a reply. ;-0)
just dont want this post to go to page 5 were no one looks at it.
if someone knows how i can update the firmware in a easy way, could you please explain me, because the read me file makes no sence to me.
once again PEACE.
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31. July 2004 @ 17:54 |
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DarkBlade,
Can you post that "read me" file on how to do the firmware upgrade?
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colw
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31. July 2004 @ 22:14 |
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DarkBlade
Flip has asked you to PM him re firmware upgrade instructions.
Firmware upgrades can often resolve problems that people are having with their burners so it is a good option where all else fails.
Getting back to your initial problems - I see that you have completely uninstalled and reinstalled Nero - thats fine - have you checked your Nero settings following re-installation???
For example on my version of Nero Express there is a question - Which recorder would you like to use - a drop down box provides four options:
1. Image recorder DVD
2. Image recorder CD-R/RW
3. H: Pioneer DVD-RW (DVD)
4. H: Pioneer DVD-RW (CD-R/RW)
(Reference to Pioneer due to burner installed).
For DVD burning option 3 (H: Pioneer DVD-RW (DVD)is the chosen setting.
It may be worth your while to check similar settings on your system.
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DarkBlade
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1. August 2004 @ 03:10 |
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hi thanks for the replys.
this is what it says on the Read me File
1. Please upgarde your BIOS on REAL DOS mode, not VIRTUAL DOS.
2. Command: dvflash dv2.bin /f
and there is a DVFLASH. application (51.5kb) and a DV2 bin file (917kb)
Nothing else.
i download this firmware from the Above Link.
regarding Nero yes it is the right driver selected.
i can burn music without a problem, and playing them on my Home Stereo.
i have Nero Nero StartSmart but dont use the wizard i go straight to the normal Nero interface.
thanks for Looking
(BodyBag You Know It Make Sence)
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colw
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1. August 2004 @ 04:01 |
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Just an after thought - music will burn fine with:
DVD-RW (CD-R/RW) selected.
For DVD you need to have:
DVD-RW (DVD) selected.
May not be your problem but worth double checking.
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colw
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1. August 2004 @ 04:31 |
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One other thought - are you using a OEM version of Nero??
Some OEM versions do not incorporate the Burn DVD - Video files option - this could lead to probs if you are trying other settings.
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DarkBlade
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1. August 2004 @ 05:57 |
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colw thx for posting.
no i am using the full version.
"Some OEM versions do not incorporate the Burn DVD - Video files option - this could lead to probs if you are trying other settings."
i have Video files option,i have use it before to burn without a problem, but with this new DVD-r disc somehow doest burn the Files to play on the Home DVD, they come as Cdrom.
and Shrink makes them VCD's
i am trying to Burn VOD after getting the files for the original DVD with Shrink.
they Only Burn and Play on my Home DVD with ImgTool, but i get the TV screen to go black and sound at the background, and dont know whats creating this!
the screen doest always goes black at the same part of the Movie.
whats making the TV Screen to go black and with sound on the background?
the original film doest make the TV screen to go Black.
i was thinking it was the DVD protection, but i was reading in another post that Shrink removes the protection, so i have no idead whats doing this.
hope this help to clear it up
Thanks for looking
(BodyBag You Know It Make Sence)
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1. August 2004 @ 09:58 |
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viper64
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1. August 2004 @ 11:54 |
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I have that same burner(1yr) and I dont have any problems. I think that you have a conflit with some software you have on your system I would delete all my dvd software; but keep power-dvd and only reinstall DVD Shrink, Nero or easy cd creator I use nitro burn & go dvd/cd only $19 at Best Buy. There is a updated firmware but I did not insatll it remember I thing if it is not broken leave it alone. Also dont forget to do a system restore point before adding any software to your system. By the way you were giving good advice by the members of this form. Read read read.
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DarkBlade
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1. August 2004 @ 14:24 |
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flip218 I never try using DVD Decrypter I have it downloaded but doest look as easy, I still use DVD Shrink 3.2
I can make a backup using Shrink 3.2 and burning with ImgTool, no problem the problem is when I play on my HOME DVD the TV screen goes black with sound on the background and I need to reset the DVD and play the movie again, and it happens almost always at the end of the movie.
The Black screen never happens in the same place, did anyone ever report a black screen when playing backups?
It only happens with Backups not with the original DVDs.
"""Have you tried un-installing, running a registry cleaner, then re-installing"""
Yes I have done it all even remove the IDE cable for the Drive and done some cleaning.
Can it be a dirty lens? But again I don?t get errors when burning!
viper64
""""I have that same burner (1yr) and I don?t have any problems."""
I don?t have easy CD creator, the only DVD software I have is PowerDVD if you don?t count WMP
And yes I know the advise is good, but i find that doest match my problem.
None ever hear of a TV screen going out with out a picture only sound on the background???? And again nothing wrong with the DVD PLAYER.
Doest happen with other DVD originals, I think it must be the DVD-r but everywhere I read this is the best, so I am confuse.
Don?t know if you guys what imgtool is but here is the site just in case http://www.coujo.de/
Please don?t think I don?t appreciate your help, is just the advice give I have done it all and more and still nothing apart from the Firmware.
Regards
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1. August 2004 @ 14:49 |
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flip218 I never try using DVD Decrypter I have it downloaded but doest look as easy, I still use DVD Shrink 3.2
It's not that hard. First change your Shrink settings a bit. Open Shrink -> click edit, then preferences -> change the target size to custom and enter 4300 -> click ok. This way your not burning to the edge.
Now:
1) Open Shrink, open disc
2) Click "backup!"
3) Change the target destination to "ISO Image File and enable burning with DVD Decrypter"
Under the "Quality Settings" tab, check the box to "Perform deep analysis". For "DVD Shrink 3.2 Quality Enchancement" read the help file to see if you want to use those settings. (I've use the default setting, and it makes the process alot longer)
4) Click ok.
Remember to run no other programs
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1. August 2004 @ 15:00 |
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DarkBlade
VCD is a specific format (mpeg 1) that DVD Shrink doesn't encode to and if your stand alone is recognizing a VCD and it was made with Shrink then it's wrong.
Scrap your stand alone not shrink!
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viper64
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1. August 2004 @ 18:15 |
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darkblade what software are you using besides shrink,decrypter. Do you have Nero,Easy cd creator or some other kind of dvd copying software.
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viper64
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1. August 2004 @ 18:18 |
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Also make sure your dvd player can handle the + or - format. Did you try to play the dvd disk in someone else dvd player.
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DarkBlade
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2. August 2004 @ 03:47 |
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Sorry guys don?t want to sound rude, but I keep getting asked the same questions over again.
Question: ???darkblade what software are you using besides shrink,decrypter. Do you have Nero,Easy cd creator or some other kind of dvd copying software.????
Answer: I don?t have easy CD creator, the only DVD software I have is PowerDVD if you don?t count WMP (windows media player)
Question: Also make sure your dvd player can handle the + or - format. Did you try to play the dvd disk in someone else dvd player.
Answer: yes my DVD can play ? and + and plays multi region DVD?s as well.
no one else house to play the DVD :-(
I dint had any problems playing the other Media DVD-r, just this new that I have change for Ritek G-04.
Thx flip218 I have done that just now.
But the DVD burns and plays, it just I get the picture go missing when watching with this new media DVD-r.
flip218 when you are backuping the DVD to to use the enable preview or makes no Difference????
Sophocles
???VCD is a specific format (mpeg 1) that DVD Shrink doesn't encode to and if your stand alone is recognizing a VCD and it was made with Shrink then it's wrong.???
I know its wrong, makes no sense either.
Sophocles: ??Scrap your stand alone not shrink!??
Don?t understand what you mean by that!!!
Can you guys do me a favour and look at this site.
I got my Ritek G-04, from the link below, are they any good?
They are the Purple discs.
Ridisc Ritek G04 4x DVD-R 50 Pack
http://www.ukdvdr.co.uk/acatalog/DVDR.html
BEFORE I HAD THIS DVD-R disc, not a problem playing but hard to burn, every 5 disc 3 would fail to burn.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=67867&item=5112428836
I had this one before as well, but can?t remember the outcome used to backup data files.
RITEK Mirror Platinum Pro Branded 4x Speed 4.7GB DVD-R
http://www.digitalpromo.co.uk/erol.html#1x0&&
What are the best to use?
Please advise me, many thanks
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