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Report: Windows 10 now installed on 100 million PCs
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article published on 28 September, 2015
According to insider sources, Windows 10 has now surpassed 100 million installs, a major milestone for the operating system.
That number is also likely to jump in the near future as Microsoft just signed a deal with Baidu to launch Windows 10 in China.
Additionally, Microsoft is expecting a boost in October when they introduce the Surface Pro 4 and other updates to the operating system.
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adre02
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3. October 2015 @ 15:01 |
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Originally posted by omendata:
Originally posted by adre02:
Originally posted by ilikefree:
I think most of the people that got Win 10 got it if they wanted it or not.
Those that kept it probably didn't read the new terms and conditions that came hidden with it.
I think part of what I read was MS owned whatever was on your computer.
Try turning off the "phone home" software included. You have to do a reg edit to get rid of some but you are unable to turn it all off.
Over 13 pages to set, what a joke
http://www.networkworld.com/article/295...-agreement.html
When you acquire, install and use the Program software and services, Microsoft collects information about your use of the software and services as well as about the devices and networks on which they operate. Examples of data we may collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; location, browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; voice, text and writing input; and application usage. For example, when you:
install or use Program software and services, we may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility (e.g., to help devices and apps work together),
when you use voice input features like speech-to-text, we may collect voice information and use it for purposes such as improving speech processing (e.g., to help the service better translate speech into text),
when you open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes to use it for purposes such as improving performance (e.g., to help retrieve documents more quickly), or
when you input text, handwrite notes, or ink comments, we may collect samples of your input to improve these input features, (e.g., to help improve the accuracy of autocomplete and spellcheck).
Just to "help you" mind not spy on you
You have noy given any reason not to use it on a business machine.
I like breaking whatever just to reverse engineer the problem.
Look, I have 13 machines running in my house and W10 is on 2 machines. Everything is backed up daily, if it crashes the machines so the hell what, ill just reformat the whole thing.
Ive done over 60 installs of which only 20 were the free upgrade, the rest purchased.
Ive been doing this since 1992, I dont give a damn about spying etc etc...ill put my laptop in the bathromm and let them watch my protein enriched turd fall out of my arse.
You do not learn how to counter coverts by avoiding them.
Keep running. Itll get you no where soon.
And this isnt really directed at you but in general.
Hmm and what if they video you having fun with Palm and her five freinds whilst browsing porn and threatened to spread it on the internet or send it to your employer or friends - or put it onto the company you work for intranet - or even worse hackers managed to see your wife or your baby and engineered a paedophile kidnapping - there are just so many permutations and so many devious criminals out there its not wise to broadstroke with the old metaphorical IT paintbrush.
Trust No-1.
My man, I, before my run in with the law, did hacking. Its nothing to me. I am a cissp and a msca, I know all the risks and frankly dont care. As I said, you do not learn to defeat an enemy by retreating.
Believe me, big government already knows that you and palm 5 are good friends...hide what?
This is superman
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3. October 2015 @ 15:25 |
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Originally posted by adre02:
Originally posted by omendata:
Originally posted by adre02:
Originally posted by ilikefree:
I think most of the people that got Win 10 got it if they wanted it or not.
Those that kept it probably didn't read the new terms and conditions that came hidden with it.
I think part of what I read was MS owned whatever was on your computer.
Try turning off the "phone home" software included. You have to do a reg edit to get rid of some but you are unable to turn it all off.
Over 13 pages to set, what a joke
http://www.networkworld.com/article/295...-agreement.html
When you acquire, install and use the Program software and services, Microsoft collects information about your use of the software and services as well as about the devices and networks on which they operate. Examples of data we may collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; location, browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; voice, text and writing input; and application usage. For example, when you:
install or use Program software and services, we may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility (e.g., to help devices and apps work together),
when you use voice input features like speech-to-text, we may collect voice information and use it for purposes such as improving speech processing (e.g., to help the service better translate speech into text),
when you open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes to use it for purposes such as improving performance (e.g., to help retrieve documents more quickly), or
when you input text, handwrite notes, or ink comments, we may collect samples of your input to improve these input features, (e.g., to help improve the accuracy of autocomplete and spellcheck).
Just to "help you" mind not spy on you
You have noy given any reason not to use it on a business machine.
I like breaking whatever just to reverse engineer the problem.
Look, I have 13 machines running in my house and W10 is on 2 machines. Everything is backed up daily, if it crashes the machines so the hell what, ill just reformat the whole thing.
Ive done over 60 installs of which only 20 were the free upgrade, the rest purchased.
Ive been doing this since 1992, I dont give a damn about spying etc etc...ill put my laptop in the bathromm and let them watch my protein enriched turd fall out of my arse.
You do not learn how to counter coverts by avoiding them.
Keep running. Itll get you no where soon.
And this isnt really directed at you but in general.
Hmm and what if they video you having fun with Palm and her five freinds whilst browsing porn and threatened to spread it on the internet or send it to your employer or friends - or put it onto the company you work for intranet - or even worse hackers managed to see your wife or your baby and engineered a paedophile kidnapping - there are just so many permutations and so many devious criminals out there its not wise to broadstroke with the old metaphorical IT paintbrush.
Trust No-1.
My man, I, before my run in with the law, did hacking. Its nothing to me. I am a cissp and a msca, I know all the risks and frankly dont care. As I said, you do not learn to defeat and enemy by retreating.
Believe me, big government already knows that you and palm 5 are good friends...hide what?
lol And I have been hacking and writing machine code games , viruses etc since 1985 when the internet was merealy bulletin boards and prestel and I am also a security consultant and to hear your pontification and blatant disregard for security makes your claim of Cissp laughable.
As for being gay - fraid not - I am no ones man!
And no the government dont know anything about palm as i dont have a microphone or webcam for a start - never have.
Your naievety is astounding for someone who "claims" to be in IT - You had a brush with the law - well that just shows how good your so called hacking skills are - lol if you knew what i have done in my time you would be horrified and i have never had a brush with the law and that says it all really - probably a script kiddie - go peddle your fantasies elsewhere!
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ilikefree
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3. October 2015 @ 16:23 |
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lol Most of us do a bit of hacking that's part of the fun for some, it's just a move on from when we were at school and started picking each others locker locks. Now it's computer locks, repacking computer programs is pretty basic stuff.
True if you got caught you stuffed up in some way.
You do have blinds or curtains though don't you?
Don't care about privacy? post your bank account details for us then.
I am unable to comment on how good Windows 10 is for a business, we use 7 at work (I use a modded version of Vista and Linux at home)
I recommend covering your camera, getting a key scrambler, and using a two way firewall (I use private firewall). It won't stop them spying, but it will make you a harder target to spy on.
shit doesnt just happen theres always an arsehole involved
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3. October 2015 @ 19:07 |
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All of that silliness aside, most users, by a staggeringly large margin, don't know any given OS all that well. These kinds of security and privacy issues easily will have pervasive effects across the Windows userbase.
I still see no reason to "upgrade", sorry MicroSquish. "It's not quite as putrid as the last version, honest," isn't really convincing.
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adre02
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3. October 2015 @ 23:28 |
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Originally posted by omendata:
Originally posted by adre02:
Originally posted by omendata:
Originally posted by adre02:
Originally posted by ilikefree:
I think most of the people that got Win 10 got it if they wanted it or not.
Those that kept it probably didn't read the new terms and conditions that came hidden with it.
I think part of what I read was MS owned whatever was on your computer.
Try turning off the "phone home" software included. You have to do a reg edit to get rid of some but you are unable to turn it all off.
Over 13 pages to set, what a joke
http://www.networkworld.com/article/295...-agreement.html
When you acquire, install and use the Program software and services, Microsoft collects information about your use of the software and services as well as about the devices and networks on which they operate. Examples of data we may collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; location, browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; voice, text and writing input; and application usage. For example, when you:
install or use Program software and services, we may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility (e.g., to help devices and apps work together),
when you use voice input features like speech-to-text, we may collect voice information and use it for purposes such as improving speech processing (e.g., to help the service better translate speech into text),
when you open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes to use it for purposes such as improving performance (e.g., to help retrieve documents more quickly), or
when you input text, handwrite notes, or ink comments, we may collect samples of your input to improve these input features, (e.g., to help improve the accuracy of autocomplete and spellcheck).
Just to "help you" mind not spy on you
You have noy given any reason not to use it on a business machine.
I like breaking whatever just to reverse engineer the problem.
Look, I have 13 machines running in my house and W10 is on 2 machines. Everything is backed up daily, if it crashes the machines so the hell what, ill just reformat the whole thing.
Ive done over 60 installs of which only 20 were the free upgrade, the rest purchased.
Ive been doing this since 1992, I dont give a damn about spying etc etc...ill put my laptop in the bathromm and let them watch my protein enriched turd fall out of my arse.
You do not learn how to counter coverts by avoiding them.
Keep running. Itll get you no where soon.
And this isnt really directed at you but in general.
Hmm and what if they video you having fun with Palm and her five freinds whilst browsing porn and threatened to spread it on the internet or send it to your employer or friends - or put it onto the company you work for intranet - or even worse hackers managed to see your wife or your baby and engineered a paedophile kidnapping - there are just so many permutations and so many devious criminals out there its not wise to broadstroke with the old metaphorical IT paintbrush.
Trust No-1.
My man, I, before my run in with the law, did hacking. Its nothing to me. I am a cissp and a msca, I know all the risks and frankly dont care. As I said, you do not learn to defeat and enemy by retreating.
Believe me, big government already knows that you and palm 5 are good friends...hide what?
lol And I have been hacking and writing machine code games , viruses etc since 1985 when the internet was merealy bulletin boards and prestel and I am also a security consultant and to hear your pontification and blatant disregard for security makes your claim of Cissp laughable.
As for being gay - fraid not - I am no ones man!
And no the government dont know anything about palm as i dont have a microphone or webcam for a start - never have.
Your naievety is astounding for someone who "claims" to be in IT - You had a brush with the law - well that just shows how good your so called hacking skills are - lol if you knew what i have done in my time you would be horrified and i have never had a brush with the law and that says it all really - probably a script kiddie - go peddle your fantasies elsewhere!
Sorry but you sound more and more naive as you type. So, the government doesn't know anything about you? Hmmm, So, you are saying that you do not use a debit card, credit card, never filled out a job application, never filled out an apartment application, never applied for a loan, never used a cellular phone, cb radio, never filed taxes, never signed up for anything in your entire life that required your SSN, name or address? Yes, the government knows nothing about you at all...lose yourself.
I never said you were gay. I said that big government knows about you and palm-5. Further, what does you doing that have to do with being gay? Heterosexual people masturbat@, homosexual people masturbat@; it's natural...what are you an animal?
Now, the fact that you think that someone, like myself, who holds an MCSA and a CISSP, is without the capacity to have disdain and complete disregard for security, laws, etc, shows that you are one naive individual or that you have just lived the past 30 years in a tight knit closet with your Tin hat and ham radio.
Please count the number of individuals that have held prominent positions and several years later they show up on the news for something criminal, unethical, horrendous, down right dastardly? Hell, we have priest molesting children, presidents lying about weapons of mass destruction, doctors with 25 years of experience writing prescriptions for friends that are not medically needed
How many lawyers get arrested for taking bribes?
How many security consultants give false information to firms just to garner a larger and/or more lucrative contract? How many times does a security breach happen and someone gets to go from hero to goat? There are a ton of people that have gone from HERO TO GOAT.So please sit at your keyboard and type "that never happens".
Please tell me that you can prove with 100% authenticity that I do not own a CISSP certification and a MCSA certification? Can you account for it? Are you even authorized to guess?
I started doing this in 1992, you started in 85'. Okay? So that means that you are probably a few years older than me, or you may be well over the hill by now...what else?
Originally posted by ilikefree:
lol Most of us do a bit of hacking that's part of the fun for some, it's just a move on from when we were at school and started picking each others locker locks. Now it's computer locks, repacking computer programs is pretty basic stuff.
True if you got caught you stuffed up in some way.
You do have blinds or curtains though don't you?
Don't care about privacy? post your bank account details for us then.
I am unable to comment on how good Windows 10 is for a business, we use 7 at work (I use a modded version of Vista and Linux at home)
I recommend covering your camera, getting a key scrambler, and using a two way firewall (I use private firewall). It won't stop them spying, but it will make you a harder target to spy on.
True, I will not disagree with that but I have used it since day one. I have one paid and one free and I have yet to have any issue. I have done multiple installs and none have had any issues yet. I have 11 machines in my house that have W7. It's great but I need to break down W10 and study it, so I use it. My clients asked for it, some didn't. That is why I have had experience working with it. I like it. I will not (currently) put it on all of my machines because of possible issues with drivers and such but eventually, it will be on 50% of my machines.
I just cannot see Microsoft, purposely, disclosing that Mark in San Jose was caught palm-5ing himself at 5:30 am on xyz.website.
Perhaps someone, rouge, could go on a covert operation and "breach" and put someone's personal info out there. I would doubt that because the repercussions would be to high. But, we have seen people go from Hero to Goat before, so you are not far out in left field.
Blinds are for respect of people walking by. The neighbors' wives do not need to see my penillllle at 8AM while they are jogging. Women probably wouldn't mind it but Im married and they are also, so no need in causing a ruckus. It has nothing to do with privacy. It is just common courtesy.
Another thing, I have pretty expensive electronics in my house and by having windows wide open is just inviting people to break into your house. I do have an alarm system, camera system and windows all armed but someone can still break in while the family is home. I have no problem with them KNOWING I have it. But, I, honestly, do not want to be back in court and especially not in court for blowing some scumbag away just because he broke into my house for a t.v. or laptop. I live in a state where self defense isn't exactly a reason to put a .40cal slug into someone's chest.
Bank account info? If you need money for something, just ask I don't mind giving it for a good reason.
I learned a lot of things during my trails with hacking and stealing and I realized that it is pretty lame to hurt other people because of pure entertainment purposes.
This is superman
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Bozobub
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3. October 2015 @ 23:57 |
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There simply is no such thing as complete security. This truism, however, is no excuse for not having proper security. Personally, I prefer that my OS doesn't go out of its way to leak data to the outside world; would anyone care to argue otherwise..?
Just because the intended recipient of the surreptitiously-gathered data about you does not have ulterior motives - debatable, at best! - does not mean another party won't gain access to that data; there are a disturbingly large number of examples "in the wild" of exactly this. The same goes for backdoors and other control/access routes. The Sony backdoor, for example, was (and still is) quite heavily exploited by many, many additional folks.
Comparing throbbing e-peen is making both of you look silly.
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adre02
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4. October 2015 @ 00:17 |
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
There simply is no such thing as complete security. This truism, however, is no excuse for not having proper security. Personally, I prefer that my OS doesn't go out of its way to leak data to the outside world; would anyone care to argue otherwise..?
Just because the intended recipient of the surreptitiously-gathered data about you does not have ulterior motives - debatable, at best! - does not mean another party won't gain access to that data; there are a disturbingly large number of examples "in the wild" of exactly this. The same goes for backdoors and other control/access routes. The Sony backdoor, for example, was (and still is) quite heavily exploited by many, many additional folks.
Comparing throbbing e-peen is making both of you look silly.
In all seriousness here, neither of us are being serious.
I know that having your personal information out there, whether someone accidentally exploits it, purposely does it, or just views it and does nothing is not necessarily welcomed. My point was is how will we learn how to "fix" certain software/OS's if we do not study them. Running from them doesn't help in any way what so ever.
We learn how to reverse-engineer by using and studying, not by avoiding.
As far as the epeen goes, neither of us are comparing. I was merely saying that being married and heterosexual or homosexual has nothing to do with self pleasure. Humans do it; it's natural.
I'll politely remove myself from responding further concerning anything except facts to why or why not someone should use W10.
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Bozobub
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4. October 2015 @ 01:54 |
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First off, no one should HAVE to fix or reverse-engineer their OS, especially for basic security from intrusion. At least, not until M$ starts paying us to do so.
Using an OS just so you can fix it is profoundly silly, unless you are trying to improve your programming and/or UI design skills. For the vast majority of users, what's broken stays broken.
As for e-peen, yes, both of you are pissing on each other's boots, so can it, if you would be so kind. No one cares, nor should they, about what certificate(s) or degree(s) anyone claims to have.
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adre02
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4. October 2015 @ 13:24 |
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
First off, no one should HAVE to fix or reverse-engineer their OS, especially for basic security from intrusion. At least, not until M$ starts paying us to do so.
Using an OS just so you can fix it is profoundly silly, unless you are trying to improve your programming and/or UI design skills. For the vast majority of users, what's broken stays broken.
As for e-peen, yes, both of you are pissing on each other's boots, so can it, if you would be so kind. No one cares, nor should they, about what certificate(s) or degree(s) anyone claims to have.
I understand but I want to learn about it. As I said, we do not learn by avoiding. When I said we, I am speaking in terms of people who are interested in the subject matter of reverse engineering, hacking, etc.
If someone isnt interested in trying to tear it apart and learn about it then of course they wouldnt give the excuse for using it. Others have other reasons. To call people idiots for using it doesnt make sense. To degrade someone due to them doing something which is of no business to you doesnt make sense at all unless it hurts other people.
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Bozobub
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4. October 2015 @ 15:06 |
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I called no one here an idiot. And while I have cast minor aspersions on certain boot-piddling behaviors, I have insulted no one for using Windows 10 (or any other OS) =) .
You are overgeneralizing YOUR use-case to people at large. The argument remains: These kinds of vulnerabilities are inexcusable in an OS, especially since they were put there intentionally by the developer.
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4. October 2015 @ 16:04 |
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
I called no one here an idiot. And while I have cast minor aspersions on certain boot-piddling behaviors, I have insulted no one for using Windows 10 (or any other OS) =) .
You are overgeneralizing YOUR use-case to people at large. The argument remains: These kinds of vulnerabilities are inexcusable in an OS, especially since they were put there intentionally by the developer.
Not YOU. I mean you all as in the general consensus.
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ilikefree
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5. October 2015 @ 02:24 |
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
I called no one here an idiot. And while I have cast minor aspersions on certain boot-piddling behaviors, I have insulted no one for using Windows 10 (or any other OS) =) .
You are overgeneralizing YOUR use-case to people at large. The argument remains: These kinds of vulnerabilities are inexcusable in an OS, especially since they were put there intentionally by the developer.
I agree.To have all this stuff turned on by default is just wrong on so many levels.
To have the excuse that it is free and on to help you makes no difference.
Microsoft should not make people go to 13 different pages to turn it off, (what you can turn off anyway)
There should be one big button, clear to see, not dimmed out as some are, where users can opt out of it all.
We are talking about an operating system here not peoples private parts or habits.
shit doesnt just happen theres always an arsehole involved
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