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dvds not playing on dvd player.
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bucka666
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1. August 2004 @ 16:52 |
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Hi all, sorry if this is in the wrong section, but here goes anyway.
i am using dvdshrink and nero to burn my dvds, the first one i burnt worked fine on my dvd player. every one ive tried to burn since wont work. they work in my pc and on my mates dvd player. i have tried different media +/-, and also xcopy express and dvd decriptor. my dvd player plays other "burnt" dvds,just not the ones im burning(except the first one).sorry again if in wrong post, cherrs bucka666.
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ScubaPete
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1. August 2004 @ 17:21 |
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Try a good media !
Take Memorex as an excellent example as media goes, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record. There are 4 different companies that manufacture Memorex BTW and product quality varies widely as you might imagine. Easy to see now why the quality of a big-named company can?t be trusted - ? Who?s making your Memorex tonight ?? Note: Memorex in the singles, 5 or 10 pack, as a rule, cause less problem than those Memorex sold in bulk BUT they still aren't recommended for DVD backups.
Is it just Memorex ? No ! I just used Memorex as an example. Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and many Ritek and Verbatim discs aren?t suitable as a DVD backup media ? that?s why we are specific in the type of media we are recommending.
1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized :-(
Besides "Freezing", "skips" and pixelations, many times you?ll get a ?Cyclic Redundancy error? or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won?t accept your ?cheap? media :-(
Another problem which ?pops up? is a ?*Power Calibration Error?. This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media.
*A ?Power Calibration Error? can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn?t usually the case. Trying to shut down your software and ejecting your DVD then restarting your program and re-inserting the same media recently cleaned has been known to help.
Inexpensive media or even average media is great for text, Data, Spreadsheets, .Jpg and .Gif pictures and is good even for MP3 music BUT for DVD backups - BLAaaaaaT! It SUCKTH in an extremely Big-th way !
2. A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction !
?Branded? Ritek G04's or Branded Verbatim are what we?re looking for OR any media boasting ?Advanced Metal AZO.? ? BUT it MUST SAY ?METAL? AZO !, this indicates a superior dye application, while they are sometimes a bit ?pricey? they are acceptable.
Prices online from Meritline.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a 1/2 dollar($ .50 USD) a disc -
Question - If you make coasters out of 3 cheap or even average discs and good copies from 3 Branded Verbatim discs or 3 ?Branded? Ritek G04 discs - which ones then will you say are too expensive ? The 3 ?Cheapo?s with no movie backup OR, the 3 recommended discs with a perfect backup on each disc ?
Bear in mind, Memorex, Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and others are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets, Data and your text backups and archives, they just don?t work well for DVD backups. Even DataSafe G04?s made by Ritek have been reported as an inferior quality media and are evoking that ?Oh no, I shouldn?t have gotten those.?
Remember, for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win, the majority of people lose, varying amounts but, they still lose :-(
Let's try the right media for the job - just buy a 5 pack of what we recommend that will settle it once and for all - Don?t cheat though, buy the EXACT media we recommended ?
Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt.
BTW, In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to the type of composite some manufactures use, their method of dye application and the lack of OR the poor quality control used during manufacturing. when I say "Branded" that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "Verbatim" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than that you are buying now.
cheers,
Pete
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FAIR WARNING. . . Using that "Cheap" media, your backups may not last all that long -
One thing I haven't addressed is the life of a backup made on an "el cheapo" disc. We all know that data, music and video backups on CD's and DVD's will last forever, well, if not forever for at least 100 yrs or so - That's what we've read and that's why we backup our treasures to disc, so that they'll be safe. "BLAaaaT" (the bone chilling sound of an emergency air horn), Wrong, Dead Wrong ! Don't throw the originals away, you may very well need them. Your video camera tapes and family picture CD's and DVD's, may not be there the next time you want to look at them. "Point of fact," inferior discs have a tendency to "Break down]" in time. In a very short time, we're talking disc breakdown in less than a single year, in as little as 6 to 8 months.
Important, please read -
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=513486
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1. August 2004 @ 17:23 |
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Hi,
Before the burn process you may try arranging your candles differently, use a different colored lava lamp and then go through the normal chant to the burning gods after you start the burn process. Works for me every time :)
If that doesn't help I'd try updating the firmware for your drive. What make/model burner do you have? Firmware version?
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bucka666
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1. August 2004 @ 18:56 |
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my burner is a liteon 811s, dont know what the filmware is?.
the media i have tried is- pcline-dvd+r and sumvision-dvd-r( not sure if these are good or bad ). i have plenty of "other"media disks from other places that play fine on my dvd player,ie datawrite,bulkpaq,a blank one that costs £5.00 for 25 disks. I have even got 1 sumvision(see above),that plays fine, so with all tis in mind i feel it is not the media i am using but maybe the way i am burning them, or is it my burner itself.
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ScubaPete
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1. August 2004 @ 19:16 |
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so with all tis in mind I feel it is not the media I am using
With your incredible grasp media and it's important place in DVD backups I bow to your superior knowledge of the subject -
If you feel that your firmware is fine perhaps it's your ASPI layer -
cheers,
Pete
PS Thanks ever so for putting me in my place, I'll try to not forget -
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bucka666
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2. August 2004 @ 10:36 |
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considering people come to this site for help it is slightly annoying when all you get is some smart arse taking the mickey?.
I was looking for help NOT trying to be smart or clever because IM not, thats why i posted on here( newbie forum)...
the comments about the media were an observation and i was trying to get across the point that cheap media was working on my dvd player, only media that i was burning was not working.
Once again thanks for all your help.
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2. August 2004 @ 12:53 |
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My killer sig came courtesy of bb "El Jefe" mayo.
The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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bucka666
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2. August 2004 @ 14:48 |
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Thank you nephilim, updated my filmware and "hey presto" can burn to my hearts content.
no more expensive cup coasters anymore.
many thanks.
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ScubaPete
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2. August 2004 @ 17:02 |
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considering people come to this site for help it is slightly annoying when all you get is some smart arse taking the mickey?.
Hey, bucka666,
I'm not sure what your problem is - You state your media isn't the problem and I agreed - You seemed to have superior knowledge on the subject -
and I don't like being called a smart arse !
Get a grip there friend -
Glad you're burning -
(Guess you'll make something out of that too -)
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michigan
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2. August 2004 @ 18:15 |
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Pete,
Don't you just hate it when they put you in your place with their superior knowledge, then call you a smart arse instead of something reasonable like a smart ass? ;) Get 'em big guy. You are the Newbies best friend.
Visit us at www.dvdhounds.com for all of your DVD needs and discussions. It's a fun new site that could use your support. Everyone is welcome!
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ScubaPete
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2. August 2004 @ 19:38 |
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LOL, LOL -
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ScubaPete
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2. August 2004 @ 19:39 |
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LOL, LOL -
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bucka666
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3. August 2004 @ 09:19 |
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SORRY PETE, after burning coasters for 2 days solid, i was getting rather frustrated, I honestly thought you were taking the piss and i am sorry for the misunderstanding on my part, sorry for the post as well(and the spelling mistake michigan).
Hope you can all forgive me.
thanks, bucka666.
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michigan
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3. August 2004 @ 14:19 |
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No worries, sometimes we need a third voice of reason to look at things differently. Just laugh at life it's to short to take to seriously.
Visit us at www.dvdhounds.com for all of your DVD needs and discussions. It's a fun new site that could use your support. Everyone is welcome!
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ScubaPete
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4. August 2004 @ 16:57 |
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No worries, we're friends - all is forgiven :P)
Pete
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deanne
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1. September 2004 @ 01:37 |
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i am having problems copying dvds on DVD Shrink,it says error copywrite problem i/o error,can some help me
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ScubaPete
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1. September 2004 @ 14:16 |
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It's because you haven't ripped it yet. meaning you haven't removed the encryption. There are a rare few DVD's that DVD Shrink can't break. Whjen that happens, you should us DVD Decrypter.
What I recommend is that you start from the top - First use DVD Decrypter in the "File" Mode, then pick it up by using DVD Shrink and "Open files".
First, you should, as many of you do already, Create a folder for your DVD backup before hand. This is the place on your HD where DVD Decrypter work on your files and can later pick them up to burn to disc. Try to put it someplace where you won't forget it - i.e. C:/All DVD work/Pirates of the Caribbean.
If you have anymore dificulties stop back and I can provide you with a complete guide -
Cheers,
Pete
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deanne
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1. September 2004 @ 21:59 |
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thanks pete i will try that,i am a novice at this so i might be bending your ear soon,thanks again.Deanne
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ScubaPete
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2. September 2004 @ 16:25 |
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No sweat, that's what we're here for . . .
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deanne
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6. September 2004 @ 07:38 |
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can someboby please help me,i am having problems copying from a dvd,i'm using roxio,it reads the dvd alright but when i put the blank dvd in it kicks it out,it says cd rom/audio,224 session,84 track inserted,i have used this blanks before so it is not the discs,help!
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ScubaPete
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6. September 2004 @ 15:01 |
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Step # 1 - Delete Roxio. It's about as friendly as the plague.
Remove all Roxio tentacles and tendrils with Roxio Zapper ?
Find it here:
http://www.microadvantage.net/downloads/zapper60.zip
Then use this guide for doing your DVD backups.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/74599
BTW, you may have used your media before for CD copying BUT DVD's are another story.
You want to use RiData, Ritek G04's, Sony, TDK OR verbatim DataLife.
Using other media like Memorex is asking for trouble as its quality control is piss poor.
Your choices are easy, follow our suggestions and get excellent burns or don't and collect a major amount of coasters :(
Let me know how you make out, OK ?
Cheers,
Pete
BTW, Welcome to aD :)
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Newfee
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6. September 2004 @ 16:15 |
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Mr first blank DVD's I bought were Memorex...Out of 20 I have about 12 coasters...so far no coasters with Ritek (Ridata).
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ScubaPete
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6. September 2004 @ 19:13 |
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Mr first blank DVD's I bought were Memorex...Out of 20 I have about 12 coasters...so far no coasters with Ritek (Ridata).
Newfee,
Thanks for your input, I love it when New converts show up :)
Cheers,
Pete
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deanne
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6. September 2004 @ 22:02 |
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thanks,but i have tried playing a dvd an it doesnt work,is there something wrong with my drive now(it makes a pulsing noise when i put a dvd in
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ScubaPete
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7. September 2004 @ 19:27 |
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deanne,
There's some times when I hear,
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it makes a pulsing noise when I put a dvd in
When the theme song from the "Twilight Zone" runs through my head and I think, This guy has got to get himself a new drive -
My friend, This is one of those times -
Best of luck my friend, Best of luck -
Pete
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