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8. August 2004 @ 17:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have an external atapi cd-rw 52x24x52 which I used in an attempt to burn pictures to 700MB memorex cd-rw cds.

However, no matter which program I seem to use (Nero Ultra, Alcohol 120 1.9.2.1705, or even the Windows XP writing wizard) I cannot complete this process successfully.

I'm not sure if it is a 1-sheep burner or not, because it even failed the sheep test (http://www.petemoore.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/guides/pc-cdrom/sheeptest.htm)
w/ nero after supposedly saying it got to 100%.

Here's a typical example of the classic windows xp writing wizard (which i had thought never failed) failing



Since the last time the burner worked I have only changed CDs (from PNY technologies to Memorex), installed alcohol, nero, and made a couple virtual drives.
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_viper_
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8. August 2004 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
However, digital research technologies cd (not rewritable) burned successfully. Any ideas?
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8. August 2004 @ 20:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lower the write speeds and it that doesnt help try new different media's.

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9. August 2004 @ 08:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

If you're burning pictures the sheep rating is inconsequential.

If your drive isn't liking the memorex RW then I'd suggest updating the firmware and if that doesn't work I'd simply use a different brand of media :)

Firmware:

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php



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9. August 2004 @ 16:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
digital research technologies is not on the list...

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Hi,

ATAPI isn't the manufacturer it's the data interface :)

Is ATAPI what Nero Info Tools lists the drive as?





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9. August 2004 @ 17:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes, it seems to


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9. August 2004 @ 21:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, in that case it's as generic as generic gets and I've no idea what firmware it would need.

It's possible an update to your ASPI could do some good. it may have been boogered up somehow. ForceASPI is a good one. Here's a link:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/lite/t-101614.html



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10. August 2004 @ 08:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did almost everything on that site--couldnt run the check program, but it seems to have installed.

So what exactly is ASPI?
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10. August 2004 @ 09:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
btw, the burning of the memorex rws persists
Thanks anyway

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Hi,

ASPI is a driver later that sits between your drive and your software that lets them communicate back and forth.

So ASPICHK wouldn't verify the install? That's very odd.

Have you tried another brand of media yet?


Can you post a Nero error log? That may give us some clues :)





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Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 9/10/1999 12:06:00 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 8:18:06 PM
Nero version: 6.3.1.17 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <ATAPI CD-RW 52X24> Version: K.HC - HA 3 TA 0 - 6.3.1.17
Adapter driver: <> HA 3
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <LG CD-ROM CRD-8484B>Version: 2.01 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.17
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LG CD-ROM CRD-8484B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 2 ID 1 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LG CD-ROM CRD-8484B E: CDRom0
AXV CD/DVD-ROM G: CDRom1
AXV CD/DVD-ROM H: CDRom2
ATAPI CD-RW 52X24 F: CDRom4
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 70254592 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 479MB (490992kB)
Free physical memory: 73MB (75308kB)
Memory in use : 84 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

10.8.2004
CD-ROM (ISO)
3:40:07 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6065
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : TAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

3:40:07 PM #2 Phase 87 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Seamless Link activated

3:40:07 PM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

3:40:07 PM #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer ATAPI CD-RW 52X24 running

3:40:07 PM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

3:40:07 PM #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3172
Turn on Track-at-once, using CD-R/RW media

3:40:08 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Last possible write address on media: 359848 ( 79:59.73)
Last address to be written: 33812 ( 7:32.62)

3:40:08 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

3:40:08 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
Recorder: ATAPI CD-RW 52X24;
CDRW code: 00 97 25 30; OSJ entry from: INFODISC Technology Co., Ltd.
ATIP Data:
Special Info [hex] 1: 00 00 00, 2: 00 00 00 (LI 0:00.00), 3: 00 00 00 (LO 0:00.00)
Additional Info [hex] 1: 00 00 00 (invalid), 2: 00 00 00 (invalid), 3: 00 00 00 (invalid)

3:40:08 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

3:40:08 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 33813 (33813) = #33813/7:30.63
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 33811 blocks [ATAPI CD-RW 52X24 ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

3:40:08 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
Prepare recorder [ATAPI CD-RW 52X24 ] for write in TAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 69556224, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
33813 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

3:40:08 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1030
Removed 2 run-out blocks from end of track 1. Length: 33813 -> 33811.

3:40:08 PM #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Caching of files started

3:40:08 PM #15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4182
Cache writing successful.

3:40:08 PM #16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Caching of files completed

3:40:08 PM #17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Burn process started at 4x (600 KB/s)

3:40:08 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

3:40:08 PM #19 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20401
Set BUFE: Seamless Link -> ON , Auto Pilot : ON

3:41:40 PM #20 SCSI -500 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1442
SCSI Exec, HA 3, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x09B30000
Status: 0x02 (0x03, SCSI_ABORTED)
HA-Status 0x10 (0x0A, SCSI_HASTAT_REQUEST_SENSE_FAILED)
TA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x26
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x60 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x26 0x02

3:41:40 PM #21 CDR -500 File Writer.cpp, Line 304
SCSI command aborted
ATAPI CD-RW 52X24\H3 T0

3:41:40 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

3:41:41 PM #23 SCSI -1114 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1188
SCSI Exec, HA 3, TA 0, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x06 (KEY_UNIT_ATTENTION)
Sense Code: 0x29
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x35 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x29 0x00

3:41:41 PM #24 CDR -1114 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 193
Reset occurred

3:41:41 PM #25 TRANSFER -18 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 193
Could not perform EndTrack

3:41:41 PM #26 CDR -201 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 196
Invalid write state
ATAPI CD-RW 52X24\H3 T0

3:41:41 PM #27 TRANSFER -18 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 196
Could not perform EndTrack

3:41:41 PM #28 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 15226
<ATAPI CD-RW 52X24 > start Close Session

3:41:41 PM #29 SCSI -1176 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1188
SCSI Exec, HA 3, TA 0, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x72
Sense Qual: 0x03
CDB Data: 0x5B 0x01 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x72 0x03

3:41:41 PM #30 CDR -1176 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 245
Session fixation error

3:41:41 PM #31 TRANSFER -19 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 245
Could not perform Fixation

3:41:41 PM #32 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 254
falling back to disc fixation

3:41:41 PM #33 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1703
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

3:41:41 PM #34 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1845
Burn process failed at 4x (600 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 9/10/1999 12:06:00 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 10/28/2003 6:02:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=86912 bytes, created 8/29/2002 4:27:50 AM (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

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10. August 2004 @ 11:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
they probably mistyped the link to the ASPI check program--they give a site that is identical to the ForceASPI 1.8 download site (above)
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11. August 2004 @ 11:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alrighty,

You're getting a session fixation error which can be caused by a couple things.

1) Other software interfering with the burn process such as packet writing apps, Windows IMAPI burning service or an otherwise heavy load of other apps running in the background.

I noticed in your log that out of 479MB of RAM you only have 73MB available. How many apps do you have running while trying to burn (including those running in the background)?


2) Again we need to look at the media. Have you tried any other media yet? Before the actual burn the drive will burn a small amount of the disc to calibrate itself for that particular disc and if the disc is low quality, dirty/scratched or otherwise bad the drive won't burn to it.


3) Transfer problems. Since you're running an external drive I'd recommend updating your USB (or firewire) drivers and possibly your motherboards chipset drivers.



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11. August 2004 @ 14:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When I burn I usually only have a couple things open: Norton Antivirus 2004 and usr wlan (connection to my router)

How much memory do I need? Is the "ALI USB 2.0 v 1.52" a good usb update? (http://www.usbman.com/USB%202%20News.htm)

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11. August 2004 @ 17:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Recently I went through a step by step essential service guide for windows xp, leaving only the necessary services. Perhaps there were many that were eating away at my memory...
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11. August 2004 @ 17:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It looked to me like there was quite a bit of system memory being used.

Normally windows will use around 128MB depending on your configuration.

Have you run any spyware utilities such as Spybot S&D or Adaware? If you get loaded down with spyware and junk they can eat up resources and bog your system down.



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I use Lavasoft Ad-Aware 6 all the time...I have nothing
my computer is pretty good in that department

I still have to make one more test, now that I disabled a bunch of useless services for xp. Since my burner can burn on 2 different types of CD-Rs and cannot burn on the Memorex CD-RW, I think the conclusion is that Memorex is simply not compatible w/ my burner...
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That could very well be.

If you try another brand of RW let us know how it goes :)



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12. August 2004 @ 16:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried burning the memorex rw w/ nero again but it froze at 50%...

[edit] buffer lvl was at 84% this time... is that good? [/edit]

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another brand....damn...that involves going to the store...
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15. August 2004 @ 04:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello,

I want to add and suggest a solution to this problem for anyone who may use this conversation to solve their own problem. Hopefully this will prevent someone from having to reinstall thier OS.

My system had the exact symptoms described above. After great frustration I have found that the CD Writing Wizard is sensitive file sharing and security issues. I had previously found it neccesary to disabled "simple file sharing" on my system. I re-enabled simple file sharing, and then copied my files to the "Shared Document" area of my hard drive. I was immediately able to burn the files to CD's.

I want to thank _viper_ and Nephilim for thier discussion, it was the only intelligible discussion about this problem on the web I could find. Hopefully this proves to be a contribution to that conversation.

good luck and blessings,


Philip Coltharp, Tallahasse Florida
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We certainly appreciate your contribution, Philip :)



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