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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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askyew
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2. December 2004 @ 19:32 |
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Ask an you shall receive!!
http://www.ocfaq.com/
Go there and find the package for your card. It will have ati tool for overclocking as well as the omega optimized drivers. Be sure to read the instructions and use driver cleaner to remove the catalyst drivers before installing. W1zzard is wise be sure to contribute to him. I am not sure but there may be a bios mod for your card to set the default speeds higher. There is a bios mod and you can find it here:
http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/
with the advanced option you fill in the core and memory speed. Be careful!! test your card to be sure that it will operate at the speed before you put it in!!It can also flash your bios back to the original. Like indienemo said you may want to get better cooling for your card, there are several cooling solutions for the 9800 out there.
Edit sorry! They have changed the ocfaq site and you may have to go to driver heaven for the omegas but you can still get ati tool for overclocking from there or driver heaven.
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Alex34
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5. December 2004 @ 22:52 |
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askyew: thanks for the link!
Results of my overclocking:
System:
Abit IC7-G (BIOS revision 27)
Intel Northwood P4(HT) 2.4C
WinXP.SP1
Corsair PC3200LL 2x256Mb
Nvidia MX400 (Unknown vendor) AGP4x 64Mb
Processor fan: Zalman 7000A-CU
Northbridge: Custom mounted Zalman ZM-NB47J Heatsink
Now running stable (Prime95/Memtest faultfree)
at 41 Celsius idle and 55 Celsius under load
at these settings:
FSB=245, multiplier 12(fixed) > 2.94Ghz
PSB800
CPU:DRAM = 5:4
AGP Ratio = Fixed
AGP/PCI = 66/33Mhz
Vcore = default (1.525v)
Vdimm = 2.8v
AGP Voltage = 1.65v
Memory timings:
2.5
3
3
6
I am quite happy with the results, don't know if
i feel the need to go any higher with this.
I run into instability as soon as i change the
fsb to 250 even if i loosen the memory timings
to 2.5-4-4-6.
What do you think?
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askyew
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6. December 2004 @ 01:56 |
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What type of instability problems? You may have to raise the vcore a slight bit. I personally like to run the ram 1:1 it just seems to run faster even at lower fsb speeds, plus alot of people have instability problems using ram dividers. So if you are going to be a serious overclocker you should buy ram that you can 1:1 overclock. Remember if you want high performance you need low mem timings with higher transfer rates.
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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indienemo
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6. December 2004 @ 02:45 |
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hi,
Im loking to upgrade the bios on my gfx card again... if i flash my bios to a X850, (AGP version), when i have a pci express card will that cause it to malfunction???
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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indienemo
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7. December 2004 @ 06:24 |
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Found the bios for the x850, in PCI express form... its quite a jump from my current bios, 60mz on GPU, 90mz on Mem. do you think my card would be able to handle it? its got stock heatsink and fan, but i have got a PCI slot blower just underneath and there a few case fans....
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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askyew
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7. December 2004 @ 18:01 |
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Use ati tool to overclock and check for artifacting at that speed. I would think that it should be able to handle it but heat very well could become an issue. Check the forums here to see what others get:
http://www.rage3d.com/board/index.php?
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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indienemo
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8. December 2004 @ 23:15 |
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I overclocked to that speed last night, 40mhz core, 90mhz memory... it was all fine and very stable until i ran a 3d app. then the PC hung then crashed and needed to be restarted... woulld it be wise to buy one of those artic coolers? Would it be more efficient than my current fan mod? Also, if i do apply this bios flash will I be able to successfully downclock my memory afterwards using ati tool? That seems like a good idea I would have thought....
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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askyew
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9. December 2004 @ 00:04 |
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You can always flash your bios back to the original from that site I posted earlier. Ati Tool can clock your core or mem anyway you want it to up or down. Yes if you are going to overclock your video card those artic coolers are some of the best non water solutions. In the link that I posted earlier there may be an advanced modded bios where you decide the default gpu/mem speed by typing it in before you flsh the bios. Use ATI tool to find the best gpu/mem overclock that your card can handle and flash with those numbers as the default speed. Is your card an xt or did you flash it to xt speed?
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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indienemo
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9. December 2004 @ 00:13 |
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yeah i know how to use ati tool, ive just never really used it to downclock, my card is an OEM x800 XT not flashed to that speed...
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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askyew
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9. December 2004 @ 00:35 |
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You are probably not going to find alot of overclocking headroom because it is already at xt speeds then. What temp are you running at now?
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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indienemo
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9. December 2004 @ 01:19 |
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520/575, (platinum ed. speeds w.platinum ed. bios)...trying to get to 540/590, can get 540 on GPU easily without it crashing: its only when i really start wrenching up the memory that it crashes...
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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askyew
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9. December 2004 @ 01:57 |
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Unfortunately most people plan to overclock their cards before they buy and then purchase a non pro or pro with the intent of clocking them to pro or xt speeds. There are alot of sites where the discussion is about where and whose card to buy to get the most overclockable one. Much like mb processors the higher the clock of the gpu, the less room for overclocking. That is still one fast card you own without the overclock. Even if I could find one in stock there is no way I could afford to pay $200 usd over the msrp.
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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indienemo
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9. December 2004 @ 02:47 |
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you reckon it could do it if i got an artic cooler? also, if i get one how much assembly is required?
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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askyew
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10. December 2004 @ 01:06 |
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What are your temps now?
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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Zeone
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12. December 2004 @ 17:03 |
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How do i know if my processor died? i turned off my computer and it was working fine to add my other Harddrive i bought and i tryed to turn it back on and it like made a high pitch noise and turned off.. now i got it so it stays on but it never like, beeps to go to the checking system ram screen any idea's what can be wrong? thanks for any help
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askyew
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12. December 2004 @ 18:07 |
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Take the new harddrive out and see if it posts. If it does then you need to check the drive jumper configuration. The drive with your os has to be primary and the backup drive secondary.
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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Zeone
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12. December 2004 @ 18:13 |
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IT did the same thing with a different motherboard and processor i dunno why its doing that the jumpers were right so now i know its not the processor any other tips? =/
Soyo KT333 Lite AMD 2000+ OC 2200+
512 PC2700 PNY Ram(crap i know)
Geforce TI 4400 OC 4600
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indienemo
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13. December 2004 @ 04:33 |
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At default (500/500) the temp. is 27c/27c.
The temperature stays the same at (540/540) as well.
And when put up to x850 speeds (560/590) the speed goes to 28c/28c, not much change then...however that is using ati tool on the desktop without the 3d view. With the 3d view it is a little different... I took these results after leaving it on 3d view for 5 minutes....
These are the complete scores: (core/ mem)
(500/500) - 3d view 60c/40c ====368 FPS AVG.
(540/540) - 3d view 62c/41c ====401 FPS AVG.
(540/590) - 3d view 63c/41c ====425 FPS AVG.
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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askyew
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13. December 2004 @ 18:17 |
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Zeone, let me see if I am following you correctly. When you remove the new drive the computer works fine? You are sure the jumpers are set to master on the os harddrive and slave on the new harddrive?
Indienemo those temps don't sound too bad, but it is always best to fight heat in your box so aftermarket cooling is always better. I cant answer whether you will get more overclock from better cooling, it's really the luck of the draw. If you can afford it, then go for it but remember that the card is going to take up one of the pci slots with an artic cooler on it.
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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indienemo
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14. December 2004 @ 00:01 |
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If you can afford it, then go for it but remember that the card is going to take up one of the pci slots with an artic cooler on it.
The cost doesnt worry me (its only about $30) and neither does it matter that it takes up another PCI slot, I only use 1 out of 5 anyway.... Ill get one at xmas and post the new temps here, however soon enough I will have made the smooth transition to vapochill and will be able to o/c this card and CPU to the limit! Also: someone told me the X800's are designed to work at up to 80c is this true?!
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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askyew
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14. December 2004 @ 00:41 |
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Yepper they can run hot but remember if you dont get the heat out it will cause other problems in your case. There are fans out there that fit in the pci slot next to the video card and exhaust the heat from it. Are you going to get a waterblock for your video card too?
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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indienemo
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14. December 2004 @ 00:57 |
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There are fans out there that fit in the pci slot next to the video card and exhaust the heat from it.
I already have another PCI-slot fan blower that I bought off aria, in fact I have two! But am currently waiting the arrival of a 3 way molex cable splitter to plug them all in! At the moment it is running off its stock heatsink and fan and below is a CPU fan, plugged into the sysfan on the mobo. It blows cold air onto the memory side of the gfx card. That is why in all my temp. benches the mem is always pretty low.
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Are you going to get a waterblock for your video card too?
The concept of vapochill is beyond water, and thus the o/c's are much better, the GPU block is optional and costs extra but IMO worth it.
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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Zeone
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14. December 2004 @ 12:18 |
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I am possitive the jumpers are right, and no now when i take out the harddrive it doesnt boot at all.. it turned on but nothing on the screen and the harddrive doesnt beep.. like so it goes to the checking system ram screen
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askyew
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14. December 2004 @ 23:37 |
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Can you get into the bios and see your drive?
Yes that phase change is much better than water, I was just wondering if you were planning on cooling the gpu with it. There is a triple phase change unit out there now that was used to push a P4 to over 6ghz., so it is the best cooling solution currently on the market.
P4 2.8c @ 3.2
Abit IC7-G
2x80 gb seagates barracudas
ATI AIW 9600 soft mod by w1zzard
2 x 256 pc 3200 Kingston valueram(hynix chips)
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indienemo
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15. December 2004 @ 06:48 |
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That was done with copper and liquid nitrogen it is not available to buy
"Life is like a box of chocolates, whenever it comes to me all that is left is toffee logs" - Me.
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PC: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.4Ghz, 2GB DDR2, X850 PE GFX.
GC: Viper GC w. Cobra bios 1.2
X360: Kreon 1.0 Drive, Softmodded console
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