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xiaotuanzi
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1. February 2012 @ 21:07 |
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Hasn't AMD been locking down their chips since Thunderbird?
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1. February 2012 @ 22:45 |
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Originally posted by xiaotuanzi:
Hasn't AMD been locking down their chips since Thunderbird?
xiaotuanzi,
Thunderbird is an 11 year old processor, and was made for socket A. It's 7 socket generations old. AMD started making unlocked multipliers in late 2007, calling them "Black Edition". I had an early Phenom Quad based AthlonII x2 7750 Black Edition Kuma Core, that I could unlock all 4 cores on. Sadly, I didn't get a good one, and it wouldn't run with the cores unlocked. All black Editions since then have had unlocked multipliers.
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leahsguide
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1. April 2012 @ 06:11 |
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I have a Tyan Thunder i7505
Dual Xeon 4, 3.06Ghz CPUs that rate at 3060MHz / 4 x 133, multiplier 23/1x
Supports 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB unbuffered DDR200/266 modules memory.
I have two 1024 2100s (133MHz)
I have (not installed) two 1024 2700s (333MHz)
Lots more, it is a pretty beafy PC that I use as my workstation. I have 6 rackmount servers also and want to learn how to OC so I can tweak any one of them but I do not know what I am doing.
Any Help is appreciated
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1. April 2012 @ 06:15 |
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You can't normally overclock server-grade components, the BIOSes do not allow for it. It's really designed with consumer-grade PCs in mind. Further, two single core 3.06Ghz Xeons really aren't that powerful these days. A $125 basic home user Core i3 dual core would be far faster than that system, and even in a $60 motherboard will accept as many as four 4096MB memory modules.
Overclocking rackmount servers, even if it were possible with the hardware you put in, is strongly disrecommended due to heat concerns.
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1. April 2012 @ 08:06 |
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Most rackmount servers and their cooling solutions are designed with a certain thermal output and power draw in mind. Overclocking would be a big nono. Have worked in server rooms before and it's a gargantuan task just cooling them at stock settings. They do not have adequate cooling for any sort of OCing.
Sam is basically right in that any off-the-shelf or budget home-built system with basic components will outclass that server and take much more updated components. It was considered beefy 8 years ago. You are going to be very limited in what components will work with those servers and likely have a hard time tracking anything down.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but old hardware is old. Find newer stuff better suited to your needs or use it as-is.
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1. April 2012 @ 13:52 |
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Originally posted by leahsguide:
I have a Tyan Thunder i7505
Dual Xeon 4, 3.06Ghz CPUs that rate at 3060MHz / 4 x 133, multiplier 23/1x
Supports 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB unbuffered DDR200/266 modules memory.
I have two 1024 2100s (133MHz)
I have (not installed) two 1024 2700s (333MHz)
Lots more, it is a pretty beafy PC that I use as my workstation. I have 6 rackmount servers also and want to learn how to OC so I can tweak any one of them but I do not know what I am doing.
Any Help is appreciated
leahsguide,
Cooling would not be the only problem either. You are talking generations old here, that will not accept modern components. I ran into the same problems with an old Dell 420 Workstation that I wanted to improve the performance on. Video alone would be a major problem, modern Sata drives would be another headache. It would cost you far less to build a new Intel or AMD, dual or quad core. You would wind up with a modern computer that would blow away the performance of your Tyan Thunder, and run so much cooler, in the process!
I agree 100% with sammoris and Estuansis on this.
Best Regards,
Russ
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10. April 2013 @ 19:26 |
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hey,ive got an older phenom 8650 triple core and have it overclocked from 2.3ghz to 2.7ghz stable.my core temps are no higher than 42c when stress testing. how much can you go on these things? i have a foxconn m61pmv board and am using fox intelligent overclocking.
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11. April 2013 @ 04:34 |
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That sounds very low for any overclocked CPU in a stress test. Are you sure you're reading the right sensor? What cooler are you using?
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11. April 2013 @ 08:38 |
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Originally posted by aldan:
hey,ive got an older phenom 8650 triple core and have it overclocked from 2.3ghz to 2.7ghz stable.my core temps are no higher than 42c when stress testing. how much can you go on these things? i have a foxconn m61pmv board and am using fox intelligent overclocking.
I doubt you can go much higher on that motherboard, the CPU in a motherboard with better voltage regulators may handle 700mhz OC but a lot of those CPU's were not that great for OC'ing.
Also I would be very surprised if your cpu was giving you the right temp readings as a lot of those generation CPU's were sketchy with the temp sensors.
List your full specs and we may be able to get a bit more out of it OC'ing through the bios, but I wouldn't hold your hopes too high
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11. April 2013 @ 08:42 |
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Indeed, I think getting 2.7Ghz out of an original Phenom X3 is pretty good as it is, I don't think you'll be going much further.
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11. April 2013 @ 08:56 |
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On the right motherboard you may get 700 Mhz, but finding one cheaply now is a false economy, if you want to stick amd, go for a 6 core piledriver if you want to OC or if you want performance out of the box with OC potential an i5 rig.
Sam Have you tried the thermalright True Spirit 140 I find it an awesome cooler for around £30 outperforms the corsair closed loops except the h100. but has made me build a case extension because of its 170mm height, super quiet too :)
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11. April 2013 @ 09:06 |
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I've used Thermalright coolers almost exclusively for the past few years, have about four Ultra-120s and one HR-01 4U for my rackmount case. I haven't tried any of the newer ones as it has been a while since I've bought a full size one.
I'd obviously like to point out that if upgrading to a new AMD CPU you'd need a new board anyway!
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11. April 2013 @ 09:41 |
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Ah well the True spirits are top notch, even @ 4.5 ghz my temp only just peaks at 50c under full stress, idles @ 30c and whisper quiet fan never needs to go faster than 1000rpm, the size of the cooler is a problem for most cases, so currently in a prototype case extension I had fabricated, And flat packed Cases are in the pipeline too, all panel dimensions are the same, but you can choose the material and finish is the aim :) Prototype case has my old 5000 x2BE in it @ 3.4ghz and even with the freezer 13 running full tilt its silent :) to the point you can actually hear the tiny squeels the monitor makes at times XD and only 1 case fan needed, did have my Fx8120 in it for a short while and with just the 1 140mm case fan the temps were the same as the case its in now which has 3 120mm fans :) I have to thank the thermright cooler for coming up with the idea's used in the case, may even have to bundle a truespirit 140 with each case as its such a great combo :)
I nearly went rack mount for my pc too, as I have some space in with my synths and rack, but it made it quite a task using it at other premises, will prob build an i5 system up to leave in the rack so I can carry my baby around with me.
@ aldan if you copy across your settings from the foxcon OC software to your Bios you may be able to get a tiny bit more out of the cpu on the foxcon motherboard. but to be honest I think you wont go much further, you may just get rid of the unnecessary process you have running in the background running the foxcon OC software, thus freeing your system up a little. if you are running x64 based operating systems you will benefit more from extra ram if you have 4gb or less in the system.
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11. April 2013 @ 12:45 |
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thanks for the input guys.i am using speedfan and the highest temp i got from anything was 63c.i think i will leave it as it is.it was just an experiment for me.you are right about not going much higher than 2.7ghz. it got unstable when it hit 2.8ghz,so i backed it off to 2.75 and so far its fine. the system is an old one: motherboard foxconn m61pmv. cpu amd phenom 8650 @2.3ghz. ram 4gb ddr2 400mhz. amd radeon hd4870 video card. power supply 550w,antek i beleive.win7 ultimate 64 bit os.this was my first venture into overclocking so i was ultra cautious.right now its running very cool with the stock cpu cooler.i tend to beleive speed fans readings as i have had the cover off and checked it with a thermal probe and the readings were pretty close. thanks again.Al
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25. June 2013 @ 02:27 |
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aldan, that is a very respectable OC with that hardware, the CPU especially. It usually takes quite a capable motherboard to coax an OC like that out of a Phenom I. And you're also running an nForce 430 MCP chipset(basically nForce 4 for AM2) which makes it doubly impressive as those chipsets are not very flexible or powerful. I used one quite some time ago(ASUS M2N) to OC my 5000+ BE to 3.2GHz problem free, but that was a much less sensitive CPU.
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25. June 2013 @ 02:30 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Indeed, I think getting 2.7Ghz out of an original Phenom X3 is pretty good as it is, I don't think you'll be going much further.
got it to 2.9ghz now.under normal conditions temp 1 (with speedfan) is about 37-40c.leans towards 60c when stress testing.just have a stock cooler right now with new thermo paste.sure perked up the old girl.thanks for the input guys.
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25. June 2013 @ 02:39 |
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Yeah it will definitely have a noticeable effect. Glad everything is going so smoothly for you. around 60*C isn't bad as long as it doesn't go much higher. Sounds like you have a general clue about everything so you're fine :)
Aftermarket coolers are fairly cheap, by the way. Phenoms are very heat sensitive and heat will be the limiting factor on your overclock with most of them. An Arctic Freezer or CoolerMaster Hyper or similar would work just fine and be a major upgrade from the stock cooler for about $20-40. Also helps protect other components from heat damage a little bit.
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25. June 2013 @ 02:42 |
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yep,a cooler is definitely next.i know its old but at the moment its all the budget can stand.besides,the only way it wouldnt be quick enough for me would be if i tried something newer and faster.have to stay away from those.lol.
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25. June 2013 @ 02:45 |
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Haha soooo been there. No shame in enjoying what you have :)
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