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DVD Drives for Wii & Gamecube Backups
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bigtreehe
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3. February 2008 @ 09:32 |
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Originally posted by 04alexdt:
so if I buy one of these drives for example GDR-8164B dvd drive i can burn wii iso to a blank dvd and play them??
Not quite as simple as that, probably best to read from the begining and also this post
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/471073
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brightspk
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3. February 2008 @ 20:33 |
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£15 ebayer, now wants £22.50 + £5.00 P&P !
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4. February 2008 @ 01:56 |
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Originally posted by cincymike:
I have an 8162b and it takes about 2.5 hours with rawdump.
When posting, please include the complete details as described here.
Include Brand, Model as listed in Rawdump, Firmware version, Rip speed for a complete disc and Drive Mode tested.
We already know the 8162B works, the questions remaining are which exact brands/models and firmwares work better and what are the different performances of each.
So far it appears there is a trend of the older drives and older firmwares ripping faster.
Thanks.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 4. February 2008 @ 01:57
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4. February 2008 @ 02:03 |
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Originally posted by sjefferi:
hi, just wondered if anyone can help i have a GDR-8161B and i put a disk in to read it and the whole system just locks up, i have it on firmware version 0045...
I have not heard of that firmware yet, but I suspect the drive probably works and it's a problem with your system or install of the drive. Try putting the drive on a cable by itself or doing the dump in Safe Mode. See if that makes any difference, if so, you probably just don't have it setup right.
Please post all the details when you get them.
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4. February 2008 @ 02:09 |
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Originally posted by sfsi02:
...8162b is much faster than the 8163b...
I had the same experience, the lower model numbers and sometimes lower firmwares are faster. I noticed the rip speed on my 8162B was quite a bit faster than yours. What DMA mode were you using?
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4. February 2008 @ 02:21 |
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Originally posted by brightspk:
uou,
What did the 8082N come from?
I know Dell, IBM, Toshiba have used the drive...
Everyone be careful of Toshiba drives, same model, but has inverse cable selection...
This means you've got to get your soldering iron out... to get it to run as a master.
Found this http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?p=103132#103132
about another drive...
It might indicate why you have to use PIO mode.
Its not a big soldering job but an extra risk along with firmware not working, etc...
I'll post the firmware rev, if i get the drive working ;-)
I carn't recall if you have to select master or csel to use a DVD-ROM in an external enclosure...
Both the ones I tested were out of IBM Thinkpads. However, I tested them in two different HP Pavillion laptops. I just had to remove the connectors on the back and mounting rails and then they plugged right in.
I don't think the PIO mode affects rip speed much since the rips are so slow anyway. Even in PIO mode it still ripped faster than my 8163B and 8164B in UDMA 2 and UDMA 3 modes.
I have also been able to rip with the drives set up as either master or slave, even when there is only one drive, but that may be motherboard/BIOS dependant more than anything else.
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4. February 2008 @ 02:26 |
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I've updated the OP and drive list.
robgrm, could you please confirm that the info on the SDGecko backup method in the OP is correct. I just copied the info from your post, but don't have an SDGecko yet myself.
Thanks for the great info though!
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robgrm
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4. February 2008 @ 10:26 |
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Yes, the information is correct. I would more closely estimate the time for a backup using this method is about 1.5 hours. I have so far had 100% backing up WII games using this method, although GameCube games are another matter. While the text file implies it will work with GC backups as well, I tried a few times, and none would play.
However, for WII backups, this is an excellent method and does not require finding a DVD drive.
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4. February 2008 @ 13:45 |
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Oxadillia
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4. February 2008 @ 16:10 |
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4. February 2008 @ 23:11 |
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Here are 8162B DVD-ROM drives for $29 shipped. Shows 36 in stock. Model is listed as CRD, but that is an obvious typo of GRD - there is no such thing as a CRD-8162B and the description says "DVD-ROM."
http://www.cheeverind.com/parts/CRD-8162B.aspx
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danitaro
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5. February 2008 @ 05:40 |
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Originally posted by danitaro:
Hi guys
I have a Lg GDR-8161B firmware 0100
Gamecube disc take over 40minutes to dump
Is it normal that a Wii game takes over 5 hours?
I have the drive connected to my laptop trough a ide to usb adapter..
Can nobody help me with this??
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Oxadillia
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5. February 2008 @ 13:06 |
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Originally posted by danitaro:
Originally posted by danitaro:
Hi guys
I have a Lg GDR-8161B firmware 0100
Gamecube disc take over 40minutes to dump
Is it normal that a Wii game takes over 5 hours?
I have the drive connected to my laptop trough a ide to usb adapter..
Can nobody help me with this??
It is not unusual for times to vary, but just make sure that the ISO file is 4,699,979,776 bytes. If it is, it SHOULD work. If not, you have a bad dump and need to do it again. If it is a bad dump, ensure that you are running as little applications on your computer as possible when performing the dump and try again.
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danitaro
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6. February 2008 @ 06:24 |
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the iso is the right size and it works.. but it's so crazy slow..
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Oxadillia
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6. February 2008 @ 11:42 |
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Originally posted by danitaro:
the iso is the right size and it works.. but it's so crazy slow..
The chances are is that its down to some piece of hardware on your computer or something. Even if it is very slow, it seems not to be affecting the backup, so I guess that you DVD drive seems fine.
The only other thing I can think of is does it have the latest driver update?
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brightspk
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6. February 2008 @ 15:35 |
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Any had any problems with a GDR-8164b on a Vista machine?
Where are the latest drivers for the drive?
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Oxadillia
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6. February 2008 @ 15:43 |
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FijianBoy
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6. February 2008 @ 22:22 |
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Thanks for the post and websites to get the drives really helped me out
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djede
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9. February 2008 @ 10:58 |
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Guys
I am hoping for some help as I am new to this .am I reading this right the only drives that work are LG because of the ramdump program
1.Has anyone tested another brand or would it be a waste of time ?
2. How old are these drives..when were they manufactured ?
3. Has LG made drives for Memorex or lite-on
Thanks
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9. February 2008 @ 11:35 |
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Originally posted by djede:
Guys
I am hoping for some help as I am new to this .am I reading this right the only drives that work are LG because of the ramdump program
1.Has anyone tested another brand or would it be a waste of time ?
2. How old are these drives..when were they manufactured ?
3. Has LG made drives for Memorex or lite-on
Thanks
There is no point trying others as these are the only models that can use rawdump (because of the way it reads the disc)
These drives are pretty old (i think) and they may have been discontinued, or at a very slow production rate. They shouldn't be too hard to find on ebay or something.
As for 3, I don't know
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mnmnk00
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9. February 2008 @ 11:59 |
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Originally posted by uou:
Here are 8162B DVD-ROM drives for $29 shipped. Shows 36 in stock. Model is listed as CRD, but that is an obvious typo of GRD - there is no such thing as a CRD-8162B and the description says "DVD-ROM."
http://www.cheeverind.com/parts/CRD-8162B.aspx
I dont think this is a typo, if you search for the GDR-8162B it is there also:
https://www.cheeverind.com/parts/GDR-8162B.aspx
There is a $11.60 difference in the price, as the "GDR"-8162B sells for 40.60, I'm not sure about shipping, it didnt say it was free, so it must be calculated upon checkout.
I have sent an email to the contact person at that website asking if he knows what the difference is between the two part numbers, I will post his response when I get it.
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9. February 2008 @ 17:40 |
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Oops, now he will probably increase the price of both of them to $40.
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brightspk
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9. February 2008 @ 18:22 |
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9. February 2008 @ 18:28 |
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mnmnk00
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11. February 2008 @ 17:28 |
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Originally posted by mnmnk00:
Originally posted by uou:
Here are 8162B DVD-ROM drives for $29 shipped. Shows 36 in stock. Model is listed as CRD, but that is an obvious typo of GRD - there is no such thing as a CRD-8162B and the description says "DVD-ROM."
http://www.cheeverind.com/parts/CRD-8162B.aspx
I dont think this is a typo, if you search for the GDR-8162B it is there also:
https://www.cheeverind.com/parts/GDR-8162B.aspx
There is a $11.60 difference in the price, as the "GDR"-8162B sells for 40.60, I'm not sure about shipping, it didnt say it was free, so it must be calculated upon checkout.
I have sent an email to the contact person at that website asking if he knows what the difference is between the two part numbers, I will post his response when I get it.
Ok, update about this:
I received an Email from Brendan Cheevers stating that the CRD was a typo, and thats all he said. So, I decided to search both GDR and CRD and see what the difference was besides the price, and I found that the CRD is $29 and it states the manufacturer is IBM. The GDR-8162 is $40.60 and states the Manufacturer is DELL. I went ahead and placed an order for the typo "CRD"8162 by IBM for $29 and found that ground shipping is FREE, so I will find out if this is a working unit for rawdump or not, if so, then thats a GREAT deal for $29 shipped, compared to the 50 + on ebay for these things.
I should have it in a few days, and will be able to test it and I will post my results then.
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