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Why is DVDShrink Going So Slow?
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KaRaCKTeR
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20. December 2004 @ 11:31 |
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I just installed my new AOpen DVD 1648/AAP Drive hoping it would improve my time on analysing/encoding on DVD Shrink. I ran a nero CD/DVD speed test on it and these are my results:
Transfer Rate
Start 5.16x
End 11.76x
Average 8.89x
Type P-CAV
With those results i assumed i would be able to encode in less amount of time, but it still takes me a little less than 3 hours to analyze/encode on my DVD Shrink. The speed gets to as high as 1,800 Kb/s.
Can anyone please let me know whats going on and/or how to improve it. My CPU is still pentium 3 500MHz, but with the Speed test being an average of 8.89x shouldnt it take me less time to analyze/encode. Any help will be great. Thanks
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wild77
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20. December 2004 @ 11:39 |
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Your dvd drive has nothing to do with the analysis and encoding that is all dependent on you cpu.Besides you really don't want to burn movies at over 4x speed.
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rroettger
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20. December 2004 @ 11:43 |
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DVD Shrink analyze/encode is done by the CPU, it has nothing to do with you dvd drive. Your burn rate are pretty fast, but most here would recommend burning at 4X to avoid problems. It takes me 20 min to analyze/encode with deep analyze but I am using a P4 3.2 GHz.
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KaRaCKTeR
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20. December 2004 @ 11:46 |
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Thanks for responding. I'm not talking about burning... im talking about ripping from the dvd. So its all dependant on your CPU and not the DVD-Drive? so it doesnt matter if my DVD-Rom drive is 16X or 4x, my Analysis/Encoding time will still take that long with a 500MHz CPU?
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Grampaw
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20. December 2004 @ 12:11 |
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KaRaCKTeR,
Answer to your last post is "yes" - it does take a while to use Shrink on a P3 500mhz platform. Your analyze/encode times are about the same (actually a little faster) as my P3 450 mhz, 768 megs RAM, Win98SE OS, platform. Of course I hardly ever use this computer for DVD copying, since it is like my 3rd backup for this type of computer application.
My main DVD copying platform is a P4 2.4ghz, 1GB RAM, Win XP Pro OS, platform which is much more the norm for this type of computer application.
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20. December 2004 @ 12:20 |
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If your drive has nothing to do with encoding/reading, why does my dru510a take twice as long to read than my Pioneer 108s?
Gif by Phantom69
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wild77
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20. December 2004 @ 18:37 |
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Most dvd burners read at a slower rate around 2x.My Plextor has a speed read option that let's it read at higher speed.DVD Rom's read even faster.The analysis/encoding has nothing to do with read speed.
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KaRaCKTeR
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22. December 2004 @ 09:33 |
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Thank you all very much for all the help and i have come to the conclusion that im in a desperate need to upgrade my computer.
I have come up with another problem and started a new thread. If you guys have the time, i'd love to hear your suggestions. Heres the link:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/138106
Thanks again
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umgrad76
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22. December 2004 @ 10:40 |
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Hi guys, this is my first post. I've done a good bit of reading on this site and I think I have an idea of a few things I would like to try, but being new at this, I wanted to gather you input.
I recently replaced a computer (P3 600Mhz) and I use DVDShrink and Nero to do the job. I always have done the Deep Analysis and on my old computer it took about 1hr 15min to analyze and about 2hr to encode and about 12minutes to burn on my Optorite drive (12 capable, burning at 8x). I recently purchased a Dell 3.8Ghz, 1GB DDR SDRAM, blah, blah, blah, same DVD-burner and it is taking about 1hr to deep analyze, 1hr to encode, and over 2 hrs to burn. When I played the last disc, it started to play, then the frame would freeze for about a second, then play again for another 3 seconds or so, then freeze...
I must not have something set correctly for the new system. I would think, considering the processor speed, that things should be going a lot quicker than they are. Any ideas as to what may be the problem?
Thanks for the help.
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rroettger
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22. December 2004 @ 11:14 |
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Something is wrong. Mine takes 30 min to deep analyze/encode, and 15 min to burn. I was using the defualt setting on analysis. Start with checking the device manager for your secondary IDE drive. See if DMA is on. As for the play back problems, we need to what media your are burning on and what is your writing speed.
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rroettger
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22. December 2004 @ 11:20 |
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PS, your are not using the PC for anything else while DVD Shrink is running?
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umgrad76
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22. December 2004 @ 11:24 |
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I was writing to Ritek Ridata 8x DVD-R at 8x.
I've also written to Ridata 4x DVD-R at 8x with no problems (but on the old computer)
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DennisLee
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22. December 2004 @ 11:35 |
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I have also encountered slowing down of analyzing and encoding, I checked the dma setting and it on, hasn't helped at all, does anyone have another solution?
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rroettger
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22. December 2004 @ 11:40 |
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Burn below the max of your media. Most here would recommend 4X.
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umgrad76
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22. December 2004 @ 11:53 |
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Can any experts help us out? I have plenty of drive space (over 100GB) and the system is new so there isn't a lot on there. I would expect that I would be able to analyze and encode faster and burn much faster.
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rroettger
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22. December 2004 @ 11:53 |
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rroettger
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22. December 2004 @ 11:57 |
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Are you ruuning a lot of programs/services in the background?
Defraged lately?
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umgrad76
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22. December 2004 @ 12:08 |
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Nothing of note running in the background. I usually step away from the computer while it's doing DVD work. I also turned off McAfee anti-virus.
Anything I should so with the IDE devices?
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DennisLee
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22. December 2004 @ 12:45 |
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I read about the IDE being set to DMA on the burner device, I unistalled mine and reinstalled it, it reset to Ultra DMA. This may help you and may not but mine is still running slow also
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umgrad76
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22. December 2004 @ 14:15 |
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I also tried uninstalling both optical drives. This is getting frustrating.
This is my set-up. I have a SATA hard drive so my optical drives' ribbon is going to the primary IDE port. Both drives are set up as cable select (CS). When I go to Properties - Advanced Setting for the drives, the DVD-Rom is set up for Ultra DMA Mode 2 (DMA if available). The other is also set up "DMA if available" but it goes to PIO as the transfer mode.
I don't know why it continues to default to this. ALso, I read on one of this forum's thread that the highest level of DMA is Ultra DMA Mode 4. Why has my DVD-ROM defaulted at mode 2?
I'm sorry for my ignorance, but I am new at this and I am learning as I go. One more piece of info. The DVD burner is a new drive that is a transfer from an old computer. The DVD-ROM was packaged with the computer when prurchased a couple of weeks ago.
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22. December 2004 @ 18:05 |
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Wow that sucks dude.
I had the same problem with DVD Shrink but I realized that I left the "Compress video with high quality adaptive error compensation" message checked. Which made movies rip up to 1 and a half hours longer than usual
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mehndi
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22. December 2004 @ 19:56 |
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I am also having problems with Shrink slowing down during the analysis and encoding phases. I have been burning for several months now, with complete success. Nothing is different with my computer except I have received several updates to McAfee anti-virus software. Could this be the problem? The slow down began yesterday.
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DennisLee
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22. December 2004 @ 20:47 |
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Hey guys I fixed mine and sped it up like before.
After re-author, you click Back up, then on the little window that pops up click the quality settings tab.
Un-check both
deep analysis before backup
and compress video with high quality addaptive error
compensation.
After I did this I did the bourne supremacy and then watched the copy, as good as the original.
It did the analysis and encoding in like 45 minutes to an hour.
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rroettger
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23. December 2004 @ 02:42 |
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DennisLee, DVD Shrink takes a lot of CPU power. With 1.15 GHz, your times are not that slow. If you stick to the main movie, thus keeping the compression low, you can get by without deep analysis.
umgrad76, you should see much faster times. As for the mode 2 on the DMA, that is all your (or any to my knowledge) burner will support.
Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving six CRC errors and drops it down to the much slower PIO mode.
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In order to improve the integrity of this now faster interface, Ultra DMA also introduced the use of cyclical redundancy checking or CRC on the interface. The device sending data uses the CRC algorithm to calculate redundant information from each block of data sent over the interface. This "CRC code" is sent along with the data. On the other end of the interface, the recipient of the data does the same CRC calculation and compares its result to the code the sender delivered. If there is a mismatch, this means data was corrupted somehow and the block of data is resent. (CRC is similar in concept and operation to the way error checking is done on the system memory.) If errors occur frequently, the system may determine that there are hardware issues and thus drop down to a slower Ultra DMA mode, or even disable Ultra DMA operation.
To enable DMA mode using the Device Manager
1. Open Device Manager
2. Double-click IDE ATA//ATAPI Controllers to display the list of controllers and channels.
3. Right-click the icon for the channel to which your burner is connected and select Properties. Now click the Advanced Settings tab.
4. In the Current Transfer Mode drop-down box, select
DMA if available if the current setting says, "PIO Only."
If the drop-down box already says, "DMA if Available" but the current transfer mode is PIO, then the user must "toggle" the settings. That is, change the selection from "DMA if available" to PIO only, and click "OK".
Then repeat the steps above to change the selection to "DMA if available".
Also, how old is the burner. I wondering if that is not where your problem lies. Do you have the latest firmware for it.
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rroettger
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23. December 2004 @ 03:58 |
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Can any experts help us out? I have plenty of drive space (over 100GB) and the system is new so there isn't a lot on there. I would expect that I would be able to analyze and encode faster and burn much faster.
Storage space will not effect your times. It's the 3.8 that will do the job.
Sorry, I am not an expert. They seem to be busy. But you kown you get what you pay for.
Best of luck with the new Dell. Their not great but they don't suck.
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