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LionelS
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24. March 2006 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Brobear,
By 'join' do you mean two titles can be joined or merged as one without the pause between titles that have been joined. This has been a ongoing problem when joining two titles or multiple titles that is the only thing that has held me back with doing this.
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24. March 2006 @ 14:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey guys, I'm new to this forum as well but i have been backing up my dvds for over a year and a half now(900+ movies). I've been using DVDSHRINK the whole time and love it. It's only been up until recently that I've had to use AnyDVD running in the background for those certain sony flicks now that DVDSHRINK isn't being updated anymore. I only notice video degradation when I copy larger dvds(like tv series) when the compression ratio is below 60%. Anything under 80% I usually let SHRINK scan through twice anyway and have had no problems with picture quality.
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24. March 2006 @ 16:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LionelS

If the movie is a flipper of the same movie with the original menu being on side one then DVD2One can join them seamlessly (although not always perfectly) or it can join them with a small flicker as it switches to the second part.

With DVDremake I can join a flipper seamlessly and keep the menu, then export the result to a folder for RB/CCE encoding.

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LionelS
Sophocles noted the best way of doing the "joining" with DVDReMake as DVD2One is easy but not perfectly seamless. DVDReMake is easy enough that one doesn't have to be a proffessional to use it. http://www.dimadsoft.com/ You can get everything you need for RB at http://www.dvd-rb.com/ , except CCE. The free HC encoder is good, just a bit slower.

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I only notice video degradation when I copy larger dvds(like tv series) when the compression ratio is below 60%. Anything under 80% I usually let SHRINK scan through twice anyway and have had no problems with picture quality.
I suspect the compression errors are creeplng in well before the DVD Shrink starts having to compress things 40%. For top quality, many people abandon it at 20-25% (80-75% compression ratio). As for scanning, Shrink will only do a file once unless you know which file to delete in a hidden folder. Then it's only doing the scan over again. I'm curious how you're getting the second scan. If you mean transcode it twice, then that is a waste as a transcoded file isn't going to be transcoded the second time. For higher compression, the author supplied the deep analysis and the quality settings. Those should be in use when one starts needing over minimal compression, 10-15%.

For best quality with higher compression an encoder is superior to a transcoder. CCE, Pro Coder, and HC are encoders and supported for use with Rebuilder. Though transcoders like Shrink and DVD2One give decent quality, they can't really compare when the compression piles up or when the user wants the best overall bitrate for their backup. Basically, a transcoder works by eliminating parts while the encoder disassembles and reconstructs the DVD files for optimum output quality.

'Brobear'





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28. March 2006 @ 11:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
having trouble backing up ' memoirs of a geisha" this is a sony dvd. i get a incorrect file structure right off the top. won't work using dvdfab first, 1 click dvd copy,AnyDVD,dvdxcopy. any ideas?
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rsilky1



If you're getting the incorrect file structure message from Nero then just ignore and go ahead and burn the almost always work prefectly anyway. If you're having another problem then state what is as exactly as you can otherwise we can't help you.

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28. March 2006 @ 23:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With some of the new Sony releases, the Arccoss protection causes the recording software to read the source files as being noncompliant. AnyDVD now has a ripper included for this purpose. Use the ripper and then open the processed files from the hard drive. The ripper incorporates FixVTS for doing the work in making the source files compliant.

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29. March 2006 @ 07:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had tried many different progs with similar results when I finally pulled my head out and realized that I hadn't updated AnyDVD lately. Once i did that it worked perfectly. Thanks...
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29. March 2006 @ 08:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That would do it. Wash your face and carry on. ;) BTW, kidding aside, you're welcome and glad you got it going.

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ispy
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31. March 2006 @ 20:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The UK release of "Geisha" was not a problem with the AnyDVD + Shrink + Nero setup


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UK version ?. it's still at the cinema here in UK as far as i'm aware...



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Ispy,
AnyDVD did some serious updating the last time the copyright protection was increased. Some people are still unaware of the compliance problems caused by Arccoss on some releases. Besides updating, Slysoft now includes a ripper incorporating FixVTS for the more troublesome DVDs. It's still a manual operation to rip, so the user has to pay attention to the protection on a release or go to the ripper when a problem arises. If a person hasn't been keeping their software updated, they may not have the new ripper. It's only been there for the past few updates.

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1. April 2006 @ 04:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Creaky,
You could call it a "pre release" version

Not yet tried the ripper fix addition yet in AnyDVD


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abrogard
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2. April 2006 @ 05:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am totally new to this, too. I'm just browsing while watching my computer use DVD Decrypter as suggested by guys here after I posted about my problem with Shrink shutting down suddenly when I pressed 'backup'.

DVD Decrypter just stopped, too. Saying there was an error it couldn't handle. It has just done it again. Uncorrectable error. I'll try a couple more retries and then give up on that dvd and/or that method.

Which brings me to why I've posted here... my current experiences cause me to echo the writer who said 'whatever works for you...', because that's what I want/need/feel.... something that will work and I'll stick to it like glue

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2. April 2006 @ 06:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
abrogard

Download the trial version of AnyDVD and give it a go and see how that works.

http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html

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Help with development of BD RB: Donations at: http://www.jdobbs.com/
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brobear
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2. April 2006 @ 10:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd also download the freeware DVDInfoPro and do a read scan of the source DVD, just to make sure it's in condition to be recorded. That's if you don't have Nero or another program that will do it. If you don't get a bunch of bad sectors, then Sophocles suggestion of AnyDVD is most sound, it's the best. Just remember, some of the new releases cause compliance errors. With those you need to use the AnyDVD ripper to rip the source files to the HD and open them in the backup software from the hard drive folder. AnyDVD incorporates FixVTS in the ripper to process the files for compliance during the rip process.

'Brobear'





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