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gerry1
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19. April 2006 @ 05:00 |
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@arniebear...both the "high" and the sleepiness wear off after a while...it continues to work but you lose the "high". If it weren't for oxycontin though, I'd be on disability.
It really gets on unfair rap; I get nervous when they talk about making it illegal. Junkies abuse it and the people who use it legitimately pay the price. Its a "time-released" synthetic morphine which last for 8-10 hours. Junkies will chew it or crush it which delivers 10 hours of synthetic morphine all at once which is obviously dangerous. Those jerks make it hard for legitimate patients.
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19. April 2006 @ 05:10 |
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@gerry
I know what you mean about those who abuse what is a legit aid too many people. My wife gets migraines and on occasion will take darvocet to ease the pain. When my daughter was younger she had a boyfriend who came from a good family and was very nice. Unfortunately, he stole a whole bottle of my wifes meds, just goes to show you cannot judge any book by its cover. Needless to say my daughter dropped him.
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19. April 2006 @ 05:13 |
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It's even more dangerous when injected. There's a lot of deaths because the drug can accumulate in the system.
As for the bad rap, any pain management drug gets a bad rap. Even the practitioners in the medical field improperly (under) medicate most patients due to the stigma. Oxycontin is one of the most effective pain management drugs on the market, but due to the outcry of the uninformed, who see it as the "Hillbilly Heroin", it can't be used as it should. Most of the street drugs are usually from another country or stolen. Only a small percentage is actually diverted prescriptions.
Now how'd I know that? ;)
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19. April 2006 @ 05:35 |
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I had no idea our members were so "busted" up...LOL
My sypmpathy goes out to you all.
My father had some thyroid surgery a few years ago, the pharmacist screwed up the perscription and gave him two whole bottles (the size of rubbing alcohol) of liquid oxycodone or contin, not really sure which one. He took one dose and left the rest in the fridge...this is a guy who grew up in the sixties and seventies, playing guitar in rock bands and such. I think he has probably done and seen alot, but we've never talked about such activities...LOL I told him he could probably make alot of money from his leftover stores. j/k
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19. April 2006 @ 05:39 |
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With age not only comes knowledge but infirmity, lol. So far my fingers still work, so I can keep typing.
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19. April 2006 @ 06:02 |
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I guess I've already let the cat out of the bag. I got my back busted up in a shop accident, leaving several vertebrae messed up. It's inoperable, so I get to grin and bear it. For a long time I was prescribed Oxycontin. Gerry described it. The body builds up a tolerance and the high goes away. It does a better job than other pain meds on the market when used properly. Once the dosage is adusted and a person gets used to it, they can function fairly well as long as they pay attention to not hurting themself. I've since been changed to less effective meds. Some doctors have different ideas about pain meds, as I stated earlier. Luckily I'm still mobile and can get out and ride a motorcycle occasionally and have some semblance of a normal life. It just hurts like hell sometimes, when the nerves get pinched.
LOCOENG
I was actually surprised at first, but there's quite a few people in the same predicament. Age and accidents show little mercy.
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19. April 2006 @ 06:09 |
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@brobear
I understand all to well the misery of backpain, but you can't let it stop you. I just get through it, mine is better at the moment and I am not limping as much as I was, but when I overdo the nerves really start to pinch. But, I still got too many things to do in life so gotta keep going.
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19. April 2006 @ 06:11 |
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@brobear...I'd never thought about but I guess junkies would indeed try injecting it. Arniebear is something of an exception to the rule; most people who take oxycontin are "chronic pain" patients; I take it three times a day as one would take a blood pressure medication. I take percocet along with it should it inflame from chronic to acute.
It's really a shame but doctors are literally afraid to treat pain; if I have to get a new doctor, I have to go through all sorts of hell. Also, if you take it like a regular med as I do, you're best to find a mom and pop pharmacy and make arrangement with them for your monthly percription; oxycontin has become damn near impossible to find. It's probably easier to get on the street...I guess that my big bitch about it; efforts to control its abuse has only impacted the doctor and the patient that use it legitimately. After the "high" has worn off as well as the sleepingess the exact opposite starts to happen...it seems to become a stimulant of sorts. You really do get "chatty" and it does continue to effect temperment; it is very difficult to get me "rattled" or pissed off.
@arniebear...I can't begin to count the number of times I've had it stolen. Maint people working in the bldg have taken it right out of my med cabinet, I've had it stolen from my desk at work. Its unbelieveable ... like you said, you think you know someone then bam. I can't figure out which of my coworkers it is but one is a drug thief and you wouldn't think it of any one of them.
By the way, you could probably buy a new car with what you've got sitting in you med cabinet!
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19. April 2006 @ 06:32 |
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gerry1
I get all my meds through a hospital pharmacy. They keep just about everything. Some pharmacies won't keep Oxycontin due to armed robbery and internal theft. The money that can be made on the drug illegally is ridiculous.
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19. April 2006 @ 07:26 |
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@brobear...I tried that but in Philly, hospital pharmacies only sell to patients being discharged, not to the general public...it must be the law because none of them do which makes no business sense.
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19. April 2006 @ 07:33 |
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Different story here. Anyone with a scrip is welcome.
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19. April 2006 @ 07:38 |
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me, almost 47 years with cerebal palsey. born with it.
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19. April 2006 @ 07:43 |
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bummer, ddp, my hat is off to you. Makes my complaints look minimal, not an easy thing to have.
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19. April 2006 @ 07:48 |
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mine was a mild case & had 2 operations on my legs when 4 & 10yrs old so had to learn to walk 3 times. they only recently found out what caused cerebal palsey. the fetus has a stroke & depending on the severity of the stroke damage depends on how bad of cerebal palsey the baby gets. just like an adult stroke but as a fetus.
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19. April 2006 @ 07:52 |
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Hmmm...this thread has gotten interesting. I guess we all have more in common than wouldn't be obvious. I got into a nasty accident and fractured some vertebrae nearly 25years ago which required a lot of spinal surgery. Have had a steady diet of steroids and oxycontin since. (That's what makes me so "chatty" ...just chalk it up to drug induced rambling LOL!)
LOL i was on some last night for an Operation i had yesterday....And yes that does make you feel good.....But it gives me a nasty stomachache when it wears off..So i have to take a pervacid when i take it....I think it is actaully better than Morphine....
Hope you are doing good...and recovered from your surgeries
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That oxycodone is some wicked stuff, hurt my back about a year and half ago, my doc gave a prescription of 100 until I could get in to see the orthopedic doc took two and was flying so high I stopped. Figured the pain was better than the high feeling, I still got 98 sitting on the shelf.
Are you sure it was oxicodon because i only got like 12 or something.......Because you can get addicted from that if you take it everyday(In fact I did)When they took me off it i got really sick vomiting and everything..It sucked..
And also i can only take one every 4 hours.........Maybe it could be my size?....
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@arniebear and tocool4U....I didn't realize you said oxycodone. Oxycodone is the generic name for percocet ... oxycontin in time released percocet. THe same but timereleased.
@ddp... my hats off to you as well! What you said was very interesting for two reasons; I didn't know that cerebal palsy came in varing degrees nor did I ever hear about it being caused by a fetus having strokes. Wasn't there a lot of talk some years ago about it also being caused by poor methods of delivery or mistakes made at delivery?
@tocool4u...I think its only addictive when abused like many things: I take three 40mg tabs of oxycontin three times a day and four tabs of oxycodone a day and have for many years. I don't get the shakes or anything should I forget it home or stay at a friends or anything. I'm told that narcotics is also like booze in the sense that your far more easily addicted to it if you have a certain type of body chemistry. I know thats true for alcoholics; I don't know if it is for narcotics.
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it's probubly because i am immune suppressed so my body acts differently to certain meds....I am even restricted to eat Grapefruit(i hate it anyway..LOL)
By the way i forget what it is called i will check not sure if it is oxicodone or oxicotten..But i know it is a percicet(spelling)?
Edit: Yep it is Oxicodone....But i think it is basically the same......
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@gerry1
My friend how do you function with so much oxycontin and oxycodone in ye? Those are powerful meds! Useful but powerful.
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19. April 2006 @ 12:36 |
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gerry, a malpractice lawyer found out when investigating why there was as many cp's thru c-section as there was thru normal birth.
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19. April 2006 @ 13:09 |
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I mentioned what happened earlier. The body gets used to the narcotics and they become less potent. Normally, as time passes, most pain management patients are given higher dosages to compensate.
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19. April 2006 @ 13:32 |
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LOL Good thing I don't go around complaining, I'm the the poster boy for health and vitality around here. ;)
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There's a number of causes for cerebral palsy, including the stroke you mention. Trauma during birth is another cause. Often, especially with 1st babies, the fetus is in the birth canal, when the decision to do the c-section is made. Poor prenatal care and poor orthopedic technique could also be a factor in a C-section. Once the brain damage happens, there's no cure, just treatment. That's one scenario. Also, infants can develop cerebral palsy after birth due to head injuries. Child abuse can sometimes be a cause. I'm curious though, so I'll ask gerry's question, what did the lawyer find?
Surgery is done to relieve symptoms of spastic cerebral palsy. Is that the type you have, or one of the others, or a mix?
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19. April 2006 @ 13:55 |
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the surgery was on my legs but the cp affected mostly my left side of body including speech. the speech is at normal now like most normal adults. some people notice my left arm whereas others see how i walk especially when tired.
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You made me curious, what did the lawyer find on the C-Sections?
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@garmoon... I've been taking such meds for a long time now so I guess I've just acclimated. Brobear was right but only in part. Like many, I use to think that because I wasn't getting "high" any more that the oxycontin has lost its effectiveness. On a number of occasions, I just stopped the medication saying to myself that "well...the pain seems to have calmed down some and the oxycontin doesn't seem to be effective anymore, so I might as well not take it anymore". BIG MISTAKE! The first couple of days, the pain increases only slightly but rapidly escalates until its out of control...then, it takes weeks before getting back to the status quo. Just because you don't get high anymore, doesn't mean its lost its effectiveness. For obvious reasons doctors start with the lowest dose; the people brobear knew probably acclimated to the "high" before they reached an effective dose. I take the oxycontin three times a day (its suposed to last 12 hours but 6-8 is more like it...for me anyway). The oxycodone, I take for "breakthrough pain" so I don't take that everyday; when the pain is "status quo"...the usual 24/7 variety, I don't take it but when it starts "acting up", then I take one or two percocet every four hours in addition.
I consider myself fortunate because my pain is well controlled...I've got my medications, I got specific exercises to do, I follow a schedule with a tens/ems unit and quaterly cervical epidural steroid and trigger spot injection. It works remarkably well and that makes all the difference because when its out of control, there is pain and nothing else...the rest of life happens in the perifery. I'm really quite lucky compared to some.
@brobear...."Poster-boy for health and vitality" huh??? When I chase you around the block waving my cane at you, I'll show you what vitality is ...you young whipper-snapper you LOL!!!
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19. April 2006 @ 16:01 |
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I only gave the short version, your longer explanation goes to more detail. The lower dosage start and gradually increasing dosage is the typical approach. I didn't mean to imply that the meds lost their effectiveness, but as the tolerance increases, in many cases the dosage has to be increased to realize the same analgesic effect as before. Getting past the high is just part of the system getting used to the med. Seems the human body can get used to a lot of things.
As for your catching me with your cane, not likely if I'm on my bike. ;) I've not done much running since track in HS. I'd probably concede the footrace. LOL
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