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23. September 2007 @ 00:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just been reading some benchmarks for AMD's 6400 athlon64 black edition cpu @ 3.2 ghz.It holds it's own against a c2d @ 2.66ghz.
Overclockability is around 3.5ghz stable on air.
Now run the c2d @ 3.2ghz and theres no comparison even with the Athlon running @ 3.5ghz.
I really hope the K10 architecture is a winner for AMD.
Even if they can match the c2d's and price them competitively,at least anyone with an am2 motherboard can get conroe like performance just by upgrading their cpu.

Regards,Crowy.






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fasfrank,
It's nice to see that some motherboard makers are starting to include that informtion. Years ago it was like performing VooDoo, trying to figure out what the hell all those jumper settings did. They told you what they were, but not much about what they did! LOL Even when looking them up on the internet, it's not too helpful for a lot of settings.

None of the motherboard manuals I have here give you any real information. To make matters worse, there doesn't seem to be any sort of standardization as to what certain functions are called. That appears to be changing slowly!

Thanks for the information, fasfrank! I appreciate it.

Best Regards,
theone :>}


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theonejrs;

That's odd then and adds to my quirks of the whole Power Management cycle. I leave EIST. EIST (yes, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology) is a Thermal Monitoring "P" state, The Intel brand name version that controls throttling via the ICH through fixed step P states (P1,P2,P3,P4 etc, based on CPU ratio limit) so mobo and chipset will vary its performance. The ACPI CPU intergrated method is TM, TM1, & TM2 controlled directly on the core itself so it can switch many times faster from P1 (halt) state to PO (active). TM2 was the TM mode that controlled volt/ratio under load to keep fro overheating. C1 then allowed CPU ratio to reduce but only at no load state. So 1% will keep ratio and vcore to full. But now C1E (enhanced state) allows C1 to use the volt/ratio tables of TM2 to now reduce ratio and vcore in either steps (EIST only, but TM2 off) or in low/high. Full power at the moment CPU activity is called for. It now alows CPU to rest in low load and takes little over 3-5% to open up to fill.

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C1E cuts the clock cycles by reducing the multiplier when the OS puts out a halt command, ie, no or low load. ...An energy saving feature
Yes, but "E" enhanced must see the volt/ratio tables of TM2 lower ratio w/ voltage under light duty.. This is what's called combining CPU "C" state with "P" state to manage power consumption associated with halt commands from ACPI BIOS, OS & some apps. and certain hardware including GPUS (wich better models offer their own "C" or "P" state).

I was origionally wanting to know if the users on her have an ASUS mobo Utilizing TM2 + C1E and actively reducing vcore and ratio at low usage. None of my ASUS seam to use it as C+P active.



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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
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fasfrank

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TM1 and TM2 don't have anything in common with C1E, right?
Yes they do, they can work apart but better power management is achieved if they are used together.

Oh ya, what info are they reffering to you offered about manuals and such? I may have missed it. But to other guys, Thes features are standardized the way they get used vary from CPU to mobo to chipset.

So the users here getting C+P state to work together, can you post your Mobo/chipset/CPU combo? I'm compiling some research notes to study the variables. It gets more tricky as we get into dual core v/s single and now quad as most CPU's only have one PLL to use to control state, but AMD is working on multi PLL like Intels' Quad to control their 4x4's.

C2 is the newer C state found currently in mobile CPU's where the FSB is adjusted to control consumption. (ie. 800FSB CPU will step to down to 400FSB in halt command). vcore accordingly as well.

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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+

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NuckNFuts,
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I was origionally wanting to know if the users on her have an ASUS mobo Utilizing TM2 + C1E and actively reducing vcore and ratio at low usage. None of my ASUS seam to use it as C+P active.

I've looked through the manuals I have here and apparently all Asus seems to offer is C1E, Enabled or Disabled!

As far as EIST goes, the problem seems to be the "step" part of Speedstep. The transition is not smooth and the computer runs a bit choppy. I just tried Quake Arena with it turned on and a few variations with the C1E both on and off and it sucks! It's like it can't make up it's mind what speed it wants to run at. The game runs smoothly with C1E and TM2 enabled with the EIST disabled.

Frankly, I don't know if I will ever go back to Asus motherboards. They really busted my balls with the last 2. At one point I had over $1300 in credit card charges hanging out there. I got credit, but they charged me $450 (outrageous) for each P5N-E (I paid for 3), and it was their fault, not mine! Truthfully, I spent more in phone calls than the damn board cost, only to have to answer the same questions over and over again, than the damn thing was worth. They won't even discuss overclocking with you, while GigaByte embraces it and are very helpful! Like I said when I built the DS3, "it was the easiest build and overclock of my life"!

If I can manage the price, I want this MB!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128046
P35 chipset and 6 stage power regulation. 12 usb ports, firewire and 2 external sata ports! They have changed the Northbridge cooler a bit from what Newegg shows as you will see if you look on the manufacturer's product page. DocTY was considering one for his Quad Core! Don't know if he ever bought one! Time will tell! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ :>)


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Indeed, this Asus board is probably the last one I'll buy, I missed out big time by choosing this over the Gigabyte. I personally haven't had an Asus board that's not had some issue or other. Reputation can only stand out so much, 3 problematic boards and you have to ask yourself if it's worth carrying on. My friend is a little like crowy in that he usually buys DFI boards (but he has had an Abit and an Asus in the past), and I'm ever impressed by the attention to detail on them with how many features, settings etc. they have, even the lower end boards have two network ports, 8 S-ATA ports with integrated RAID5 functionality and so on. The thing that stops me buying them is that they're incompatible with a lot of monitoring software, for example if you run speedfan on most DFI motherboards you'll get a bluescreen... Given how popular speedfan is that does suck a lot.
I've not had any issues with the two MSI boards I've had, granted I haven't tried overclocking with them, they were OEM, but they seem to be on the up and up with regard to performance hardware. I think rather than choosing between Asus and Gigabyte next time around, I'll be choosing between Gigabyte and MSI.



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sammorris,
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I've not had any issues with the two MSI boards I've had, granted I haven't tried overclocking with them, they were OEM, but they seem to be on the up and up with regard to performance hardware. I think rather than choosing between Asus and Gigabyte next time around, I'll be choosing between Gigabyte and MSI.

Actually, the only companies that offer a good selection of socket 775 motherboards are Intel, Asus and GigaByte. All the others seem to offer a high end MB or 2 and then good boards, but not for the enthusiast! A lot have nothing that would interest me at all. Fine for business machines but not for overclocking.

Intel doesn't have any overclocking, and Asus doesn't support it. They won't even talk you you about it, even if you ask! All they will tell you is about the Ctrl/F1 keys to get to the advanced features! If you do have a question about overclocking they tell you it's guarantied to work at normal settings and they don't support those functions! I don't get it! I honestly believe that GigaByte offers the most of all the manufacturers today. They openly support overclocking and are very helpful if you have a question about it. I got the distinct feeling that GigaByte decided they were tired of being an "also-ran" when they released the first DQ6. The newest DQ6 with the P35 chipset comes highly rated! The GA-965P-DS3 v1.3 is now under $90 from the Egg and the highly praised v3.3 is only $109! BioStar, Abit and MSI mostly have good motherboards for stock machines and the price bump is pretty severe between ordinary and high end ones that can be decently overclocked. I use them a lot for office machines where on-board video is not a minus, it's a plus!

DFI seems to be a maddening company. They make some very good products but they always seem to be a bit behind as far as chipsets go. It looks like that situation is improving though! A year ago they were still selling P-III motherboards. LOL!! A plus is they do support overclocking!

Asus seems to be going through all sorts of problems right now as the complaints are just too many to ignore! The people complaining can't all be idiots. The P5N-E still has memory socket problems 7 months after I had my problems with 2 of them. Now out of the top 3 motherboards they make, only the Striker allows the use of DDR2. The next 2 down are DDR3 only! Can you say "take out your wallet and bend over"! LOL!! Their lower end company, Asrock doesn't make anything other than some nice ordinary motherboards for cheap, and some of them aren't very good!. I guess Asus doesn't want the competition! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ :>)


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23. September 2007 @ 10:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've heard the DFI motherboards are very good for overclocking. Do they have any motherboards that compare to the DS3?
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abuzar,
Yes, but not in that price range. Let me ask you something! Are you unhappy with your DS3?

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Actually YES!!!!


No not really, I love it. I'm just askin.
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abuzar1,
Why are you wanting to sell it then?

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23. September 2007 @ 11:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just so I can build another one. I am probably just going to put in the same motherboard in the new one. I just want to change the video card, case, PSU, hard drive, and CPU.
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abuzar1,
I don't remember where you are located but Newegg has the v1.3 for $89.99 and the 3.3 for $108.99 !

Clock On,
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23. September 2007 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So how about a Q6600, a Corsair HX 620W, a 1GB HD2900XT and a 750GB Seagate?



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Heres the deal. Just about these Companies make good mobos to some degree and like Intel, Abit, and MSI, especially at stock. Now Abit for my use does not do too well at higher OC but does act on ACPI and C&P states of CPU and GPU under medium OC's whereas ASUS tends to loose reliability of ACPI modes after a certain FSB rise. Even Intel for the past few yrs now is offering a mild 10% or so OC'ability on the highen mobos, (!925XE, !945X, !975X and maybe the P965 and now P35). I dont see why the E6x50's shouldn't do 400x8 on an Intel P35 since it is ready for the next 1600 FSB 45nm CPU's to come.

Here's also my own experience with ASUS. The make well build mobos. If like me you like to be the 1st on the block to have the newest features then expect to have it be out dated soon enough (origional P4C800 & P5AD2). Given time to get it right they do knowck out a mobo that tends to be a solid workhorse if you know how to tweak it. And no, they are not gonna tell you how to soup up your rig, mostly to do with warenty, or liability. Most who have the money to drop on a nice piece like these know a thing or 2 about tweaking it out so it is more of trial and error. Like building a hot rod, the guy at the pro parts shop usually wont show you how to drive it when done.Best he can do is help with the individual part he sold you.

ASUS seams to offer some of the better voltages tweaks to et that high FSB OC regardless of wheather full ACPI works that good. Besides, most serious OC's just care about the FSB, and clock, not the rest, some mostly for braggin rights. If that's what you need, then go with ASUS but just keep up with the updates as they come even if it means the last rev of your old mobo (P4C800-E Deluxe or P5WDG2-WS). I will expect the same w/ new coming X38 as it is just too new. Wait fro ASUS to perfect the P35 and use it for another yr till X38 and mobo prooves itself or buy new and go with it if you're like me and just like to learn.

So if you like one brand (and many here seam to have their own) then stay with them but be patient for the final reliece of you desired chipset and model. Dont expect the low end models to get the best treatment, That effort goes to the top dog of the time, ie. P5w-DH or P4C800-E. These are 2 examples of mile stones of their time for the chipset family they were born for. just like any thing, once you get the bug out, you got a nice ride for yrs. Remember the ASUS P3B-F? Many still in service at good OC's for the offerings.

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ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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From what I've seen, the features for overclocking are far better on Asus boards than Gigabytes (why I bought the P5N-E over the GA-965P-DS3) but the implementation, reliability et. al is better with other brands.



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So how about a Q6600
I'm gonna be putting one through some test beside the E6750. A first go around it already show promising in media transcoding, and other number crunching apps. No big benifit for gaming that I se right off the bat, but that can change if you plan on keeping it on through the next yr end. The E6750 can get a lil more clock wich games seam to like. The Q6600 doesn't like the higher FSB but we'll see what kind of performance I can get out of it.

I'm looking for a P35 chipset mobo to use it on. I have the ASUS P5K Premium to go with but I am open to other offerings if you guys share some feature and experience detais. I'll listen and share as well.

Justto clear up, I'm not an "ASUS fan boi", I just know them cause I've bean using them for so long and get where they're coming from. I also don't know Gigabyte hardly, but just cause I never had one here. So I will not knowck 'em till I try 'em, and that's what I hope to do here soon with their P35 offfering on the top en (their "Flagship") So what model is that and what can be said about it from users?

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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(why I bought the P5N-E over the GA-965P-DS3)


Just likek I was saying. The P5N-E is a mid to budget offering so it will not get the attention to fixes and upgrades as the P5N32-E SLI Premium. I had the earliest version (P5N32-SLI Deluxe) and I wasn't happy with the OC of the D-840 and pickyness with RAM settings. It if anything did great with the new 8 phase PWR and kept a hot OC'd 840 rather cool and stable. This mobo was C2D ready from the get go and also good to 1333 easy and great with some of this new PC8800 stuff OC'd to 1300+. So like I said, if you were patient to wait for the E then the E + Premium, then it may be a different story. But even the E Premium will get revsion upgrades do to new CPUs and RAM so if you had one, I'd use it as is, wait for a good year and RMA it for the newest revision. I did and got a good one finally.

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+

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NuckNFuts,
I've used and sworn by Asus since the stone age, but I can't ignore my last two experiences with them. The temperature monitoring failed in my P5P800-SE MB and it went back to Asus for repair. First they tried to claim damage to the socket and wanted $40 until I sent them the pictures I took of it as I was packing it up to send back which showed that they were full of it!. Then I was without it for 29 days and when it came back, it still didn't work. They finally replaced the MB which cost another 2 weeks. I spoke to an assistant manager and she personally took it down to shipping and marked it "Must Ship Today"! 9 days later it was finally shipped! with the 2 P5N-Es, I had a lot of people (including myself) question whether I knew what the hell I was doing. Still it cost me 3 weeks of time and over $1300 to get it done in those 3 weeks! For a problem that was of their making! I got the $1300 back but I canceled my plans for a P5N-E build and built the GigaByte instead.

This has by far, been Asus's worst year. They have had massive problems with motherboards that didn't show problems when they were first released. The P5N-E was the worst of them! It still isn't right after more than 7 months! Maybe if Asus didn't have so many eggs in one basket (62 socket 775 models) and went back to what made them the best for a whole lot of years I would feel different. I'm just sorry I didn't give the DS3 a shot sooner, as the almost $200 I spent in shipping and phone calls for the last two motherboards leaves a very bad taste in my mouth! I'm also not pleased that they tried to pull a fast one claiming a damaged socket and nick me for $40! They never even apologized for that little bit of dirty dealing. They couldn't claim foul, as I took a picture of it with the RMA form sitting on the MB, clearly showing both the un-damaged socket and the RMA#!

Newegg got a black eye for shipping used Asus motherboards when in fact, they received them that way. Supposedly they were opened to make sure there were no additional problems, and they still failed! The second P5N-E they sent me was supposed to have been thoroughly tested, yet it failed in less than 4 hours at bone stock speed!

I've moved on and I'm damn glad and happy that I did!

Best Regards,
Russ


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Sam,
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From what I've seen, the features for overclocking are far better on Asus boards than Gigabytes (why I bought the P5N-E over the GA-965P-DS3) but the implementation, reliability et. al is better with other brands.

I agree the adjustability is better, but the results aren't as good. You, of all people know what I put my DS3 through to give the Hounds what they wanted with the screen shots. I even refused to lower the CPU speed or raise the fan speeds to help it along. If I was willing to go over 1.40v on the vcore, it would be running at 3.396 right now!

I feel that I gave the Hounds everything they asked for and more and proved that it works as I said it did! It didn't crash any of the programs including OCCT, it just did what it was supposed to do, perform!

Best Regards,
Russ


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I am speaking in experience with only the "Flagship" mobos from ASUS, not mid to low end, at least not for intense OC'n. But to the users on here with me running P5WDG2-WS Pro (or 64 Pro), P5WD2, P5W-DH Wi-Fi Deluxe, P5N32-E SLI Premium (nF590i) Older P4C800-E Deluxe I know they each had their quirks when released, so if you can speak up, I can offer my feedback as well. But I found that most issues I had were resolved, and all are still servicing well as daily users at moderate overclocks.

Those lesser chipsets from most makers are entry level and just to get your feet wet, and if you want more you go to the big brother chipset. A few months ago it was and has been for almost 2 yrs, the Intel !975X for the most extreme overclocks.

In my experience with the nVidia SLI, Intel Editons, none of them seam to OC as high as the Str8 Intel chipsets, even the midrange, but mainstream P965's.

nV680i is gona be your best choice if you must have SLI, and is OK for mderate OC's But again, depends on on what version. The full unlocked nV680i is rather expensive today, so most mobos offer a special edition to keep the $$ down till it becomes more affordable (NB, SB, and other integrated chips).

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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I for one am very happy with my asus P5W DH Wi-Fi Deluxe (their flagship at the time I bought it). it has never given me any problems whatsoever since the day it was installed. it did run a little warm but that most likely would never have caused any problems. I just took it upon myself to reseat the NB and SB chipset heatsinks with some AS5 and install a 40x40x20mm fan on both of the chipset heatsinks, which I have slowed down a bit from full speed using speedfan. I am more comfortable with the mobo temp now. it's also a great mobo for OC'ing.

this is off topic but the computer I built for my buddy using an old P4 2.8ghz 533 fsb 478 socket cpu and a gigabyte socket 478 mobo I had laying around. well it worked great for a few days but now it keeps turning right back on when it is turned off in windows or using the power button.

my pc did this same thing a few times a while back and when I got home from work and went to turn it on again nothing happened. turns out it was a defective p/s. it had a hyper type r p/s in it at that time. do you think the brand new cooler master extreme RP-500-PCAR 500 watt p/s that I put in this build for my buddy is causing this problem? I'm open to suggestions. thanks.

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Mort81,
Has your friend recently installed any new software?
Maybe try doing a system restore back to when it was working ok.
The on/off switch maybe faulty.
Try disconnecting the wires from the on/off switch to the motherboard after the pc is running then shut it down via windows and see if it still reboots.If it doesn't you have a faulty on off switch.

Regards,Crowy.



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I forgot to mention my AMD builds on the ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe, A8N-SLI Premium, & CROSSHAIR. Again all had their lil' quirks as 1st released but as the months went on, things got better. Althoughin 4 yrs, can't remember much issues w/ the A7N8x and a friend is still using it as OC'd to where I left it4yrs ago. The CROSSHAIR on the otherhand, had lots of lil' things to bug one as during the 1st yr but since newer BIO this past yr was doing a lot better, but then I'm not been big ointo the AMD as the C2D took me away from it for the past 1 yr to datenext month. AMD OC's have always had some sort of finickiness accross many mobo brands. But I feel I have had bout the same or less then many described on the big ones by eVGA & Gigabyte. The only mobo I used then equal or less picky to OC was DFI series for AMD solutions, but then they have always proven themselves rock solid for the AMD side of things where as in y opinion, ASUS has proven best on the Intel side of the fence. Yet Abit tends to just balance a little inbetween.

Oh ya, who here uses any of Abit's "Flagship" mobos for either CPU and chipset? I used or am using the IC7-MAX3, AW8D-MAX, & AW9D-MAX

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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Mort81;

Look into several things, Remember my post on ACPI, well this extends from BIOS to ACPI supportive OS (XP). Is it being used in this way, "sleap", "Hibernate", or w/ USB mouse & keyboard? wake up commands can do this if not set up right or just turned off if not in use. A wireless keyboard & mouse can do this if they get interfearance from other signals. So often it is best to ix mouse to no wake up, allow this device to turn off to save pwr in XP, (this command controls the ACPI BIOS). If anything else, ya, look into spike in the ATX trigger of PSU. or standby amps

Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
 
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