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burning dvds with shrink and nero express
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millieann
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4. February 2005 @ 13:00 |
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I recently downloaded shrink 3.20 and installed Nero Express 6.3.2.20 V6.0 for the purpose of copying my dvd movies. I believe I an using the shrink correctly, but when I have backed up on the shrink, I am not sure where to do from here. When I try and access the data in the Nero Express, it does not give me the option to select my recorder, and therefore I cannot burn to a dvd. What am I doing wrong here? Is there somewhere I can get pictorals of how to do this>
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bardie
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4. February 2005 @ 13:03 |
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If you go into the settings of DVD Shrink and tick the box that says "allow burning with Nero" then when shrink has finished it will automatically activate Nero to burn.
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millieann
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4. February 2005 @ 13:21 |
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When setting up my preferences with Shrink, I did check the box to burn with Nero, but it does not automatically go to that program, and I do not seem to have the Nero screen with the CD Rom Icon
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bardie
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4. February 2005 @ 13:23 |
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Is your Nero an OEM?
If so you need to purchase the full version of Nero.
The other thing to do is uninstall Nero and reinstall it and then that will allow it to recognize all your programs/burners/ROMs etc.
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LivnDGirl
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4. February 2005 @ 13:31 |
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I am not the original poster, but I have Nero version OEM and it has always been recognized just fine by DVD Shrink, I don't think reinstalling is needed. Maybe reinstall the lastest version of Shrink. 3.2.1.5 I believe is the latest. It is needed to do the latest dvds anyway I have found.
I'm confused by what you mean by "cdrom icon" that you don't see and think you should. Clarify?
If you search for Chronicles of Riddick backup problems, you will find this video has the "boy in green shorts" in Unreferenced Materials section on the DVD.
To back up my copy of CoR, I selected all of Unreferenced Material and used the option "Still Image" to remove it.
Of course all this assumes you used DVD Decryter first to rip the protection schemes first and then open those files in DVD Shrink.
We need more concise info to help you.
The 3rd tab above is called GUIDES --- there are lots of pictorials there ...look for Backup using DVD Decryter 3.5.2 and DVD Shrink 3.2.1.5.
Good luck.
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bardie
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4. February 2005 @ 13:32 |
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Well if you think Nero is fine then yeah maybe reinstall Shrink.
Good luck.
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LivnDGirl
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4. February 2005 @ 13:44 |
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millieann
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4. February 2005 @ 14:08 |
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So if I understand you correctly, after I use backup in the shrink program, I stay within that program and it actually burns the dvd there. I do not have to open the Nero program at all? I really am new at this type of thing, so forgive me if I sound dense. I did download the latest vs. available for shrink, and installed the Nero Express 6 version. My problem seems to be where and when to start the burn, and where to store the backup that is to be burned. In previous tries, I have stored it in backup folder in the C drive. Is this right? Thanks so much for any help you can give me.
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LivnDGirl
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4. February 2005 @ 14:33 |
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Here's what I do step by step.
(You will need to tell each software program where you want the files stored)
First I use DVD Decrypter in File mode. It will automatically make a folder BlahBlah subfolder Video_TS (data files store here). DVD Decrypter settings are in screenshots on a lot of guides. Takes about 17 minutes on my computer.
[Others may use ISO mode, I don't -- it is just my preference and I have no problems]
After it is finished, I open DVD Shrink and hit Open Files, and if I want to make changes (uncheck other languages, no extras, etc) do so then hit Backup (again settings are explained with screenshots in guides).
Shrink will go through Encode phase and then right into Burning phase in the same window it pops up. Don't touch your computer - go do something outdoors or whatever but don't use your computer. Takes about 1+ hour on my computer.
When its done, DVD shrink will pop up a complete d window and tell you where the Movie Temp File is that you can now delete.
That's all there is to it unless the movie in question has some Unreferenced material or other weirdness that is addressed in other posts.
But for 99% of the DVDs I have backed up, this is all I had to do.
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millieann
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4. February 2005 @ 14:37 |
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Thanks I will give that a try tomorrow and let you know how I do. I also downloaded DVD Decrypter, so if I will use that first and go from there. Thanks for the help
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squizzle
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4. February 2005 @ 14:38 |
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@ millieann
I have Nero Express. The option in Shrink to burn automatically with Nero doesn't work with Nero Express. I don't know why it won't see your recorder, that's kinda weird. But what you can do is download DVD Decrypter and set Shrink to burn automatically using Decrypter.
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
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LivnDGirl
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4. February 2005 @ 14:41 |
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Actually, it does work with Nero Express ( I am using Nero OEM Express 6 that came with my LG 16x super writer).
If the above advice doesn't work for you, we will need to know ALL your system specs and all dvd related software loaded to go further.
I truly think that the majority of millieann's confusion was in the expectation that Nero would pop up from DVD Shrink as a "noticeable" other program running.
Good luck.
Also make sure ASPI is loaded correctly if problem still happens.
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/aspisetup.cfm
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millieann
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5. February 2005 @ 10:21 |
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Well here it is another day. I followed Livndgir's instructions, used the decrypter, then followed the instructions for DVD Shrink, took over l 1/2 hrs. to do all this analyzing and ecoding, then a screen came up that said where the file was located, and that was that, no burning, no Nero. I cannot seem to bring these files up in Nero. I am totally frustrated with this program. I understand from someone else, that it should take only about 20 mi. to do the job with these programs. Any other suggestions?
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millieann
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5. February 2005 @ 10:22 |
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Well here it is another day. I followed Livndgir's instructions, used the decrypter, then followed the instructions for DVD Shrink, took over l 1/2 hrs. to do all this analyzing and ecoding, then a screen came up that said where the file was located, and that was that, no burning, no Nero. I cannot seem to bring these files up in Nero. I am totally frustrated with this program. I understand from someone else, that it should take only about 20 mi. to do the job with these programs. Any other suggestions?
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squizzle
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5. February 2005 @ 13:53 |
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Nero should have an option to burn DVD files from hard drive. Select this, find the folder that Shrink dumped these files into, open it up and you should see a bunch of IFO, VOB, and BUP files. Select all these files and burn them to disc. If it does not give you an option to burn DVD files from your hard drive, select data disc and burn these files like that. That should work.
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
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LivnDGirl
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6. February 2005 @ 13:58 |
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I'm really sorry that you are having such a hard time, millieann.
The screen that came up at the end of shrink's procedure was telling you the location of the temp files and that it was okay to delete them.
If you didn't get an error message in this process, shrink thought it did everything you asked. Odd.
By the way I don't know what kind of machine your friend has that can decrypt, encode and burn a dvd in 20 minutes, but I'd be interested in knowing. I have a decent system and it always takes upward of an hour for me to do it all.
There is obviously something wrong that we are missing for you.
Do you have Nero InCD installed? If so uninstall it. It makes for problems with Nero. Also if you have Roxio in addition to Nero, search this forum for how to removie Roxio (it's a problem maker).
Post your system specs and a list of the dvd software you have installed.
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millieann
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6. February 2005 @ 17:55 |
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I think maybe my problem is I cannot seem to access my downloaded files after the shrink finishes its process. I installed Nero Express 6.3.1.20 myself and updated it on their website. I downloaded shrink 3.2 and also DVD Decrypter. I thought if you had shrink you would not need another decrypter. Also when I try to bring up my files in my hard drive folder in the Nero program I cannot seem to access them. Everything looks okay in shrink, plus the burn button is not highlighted on Nero. I have a dvd cd-rw drive. I am not really sure what recorder I should burn to. As you can see I am really a novice with this stuff. Amy pretty computer literate, but this has me baffled.
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millieann
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6. February 2005 @ 17:55 |
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I think maybe my problem is I cannot seem to access my downloaded files after the shrink finishes its process. I installed Nero Express 6.3.1.20 myself and updated it on their website. I downloaded shrink 3.2 and also DVD Decrypter. I thought if you had shrink you would not need another decrypter. Also when I try to bring up my files in my hard drive folder in the Nero program I cannot seem to access them. Everything looks okay in shrink, plus the burn button is not highlighted on Nero. I have a dvd cd-rw drive. I am not really sure what recorder I should burn to. As you can see I am really a novice with this stuff. Amy pretty computer literate, but this has me baffled.
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squizzle
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6. February 2005 @ 18:54 |
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After Shrink is done it tells you the location of your shrunk DVD files. DO NOT delete these until you have successfully burned them. It should show the location name in blue and you should be able to click on it like an internet link. Any burning program that burns data files to DVD should be able to burn this with no problem. Decrypter can be used to burn the shrunk movie too, but in order to do this you have to set it up to do this before you shrink the movie.
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd9_to_dvdr_with_dvd_shrink.cfm
This is a guide to using DVD Shrink. It should tell you everything you need to know to just compress and burn a movie.
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
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LivnDGirl
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9. February 2005 @ 13:45 |
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Any news Millieann?
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millieann
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9. February 2005 @ 14:04 |
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Thanks for asking. I thought I figured how to access the files from shrink into Nero, and got the burning process going. Said burn was successful, and when I tried to play it in my dvd player on the tv, it said it could not read the disk. I then started from scratch and tried using DVD Decrypter first, then backup on shrink, and Nero said file was too large. I am either getting denser or I am missing something in the setup. My friend is away for a few months, so I cannot ask him, but I have the updated vs. of shrink, decrypter and Nero, and to add to the confusion decrypter also will burn, but I am not familiar enough with the process to do that. My frustration is mounting - now I just want to get it right. The guides really don't help that much.
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LivnDGirl
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9. February 2005 @ 14:47 |
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Congratulations on making it this far. I'm glad you didn't give up!!
First, make sure to uninstall InCD if Nero installed it. It creates big problems and you just don't want it on your machine.
Second, does the dvd backup you burned play in your computer? Check the disk you burned to another standalone dvd player if you can. If you can't check your standalone DVD player against this list of players to make sure it is even capable of playing burned disks. Some are capable just picky about media types.
http://www.toddvideo.com/dvd_compatible.html
Third, what media are you using to burn on? DVD-R, DVD+R and what brand name? Some burners or players don't like certain brands, etc.
Fourth, if you use Decrypter first in file mode, then open the files in Shrink, with "Burn to Nero" enabled, and click backup, you really shouldn't be seeing messages from Nero. (unless I am missing something - I never seen Nero messages)
Here is the bullet list of what to do for File mode method.
1. DVD Decrypter = File Mode, click on DVD to Hard Drive icon.
2. After it finishes, DVD Shrink = Open Files, navigate to file location, put in blank dvd disk, click on Backup (check setting - Edit / Preferences / File I/O tab -- Burn Settings "Enable Burning with Nero"
3. Shrink will open dialog box, top line reading "Encoding" then it changes to "Burning" and upon completion (1 hour aprox for me) the disk drive opens and the dialog box shows the location of Movie Temp Files that you may now delete.
Thats the whole process if everything is working right with File mode method.
FYI - I use Verbatim DVD+R 4x media and all of dvd players except for one will read the disks, the one that doesn't is older and is not capable of reading DVD-r/+r's at all (older Phillips)
Maybe someone better versed to burning with Decrypter can help, if this final checkover doesn't work.
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millieann
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10. February 2005 @ 08:30 |
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LivDgirl: You have been so good and encouraging, that I am going to try and document to you what I did today, and maybe you can see the error of my ways. Will be as brief as I can be:
1) Loaded dvd into computer
2) Open DVD Decrypter and started the process.
3) Process complete, opened up shrink
4) Before backup could continue requested files, and when I put in blank disk can up disk empty, so I figured I needed original dvd to backup.
5) Backup went thru the process successfully, and gave me the file where it was located.
6) Clicked on file, but wouldnot open.
7) Opened Nero classic mode
8) Chose dvd from the dropdown menu
9) Somehow managed to open the file from the harddrive and selected burn image to disk
10) Pulled up the file and got the screen recording: write premastered image brought up image file
on C drive to destination drive: image recorder DVD
11) Next screen came up looking for a file name
12) somehow got it to burn, but cannot play back on computer, yet original dvd I copied is the same type of dvd exactly. I think I have something wrong in the setup somehow, and thought maybe you could see what I am doing wrong. You have been so helpful and I really appreciate it. By the way nothing automatically goes to Nero, even though I have it enabled.
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LivnDGirl
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10. February 2005 @ 14:28 |
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1) Loaded dvd into computer
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2) Open DVD Decrypter and started the process.
To use file mode method:
Look on Menu bar for MODE and click on the word File. Next I want you to
Click on Tools
Click on Settings.
Click on File Mode tab and make sure
"On Startup" - Select Files - ALL is selected
Click Okay
Check Destination - and make a note of where files are being written to (mine is D:\NameOfDVD\Video_TS\ for example)
Click DVD to HardDrive Icon
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3) Process complete, opened up shrink
In Shrink
Insert Blank DVD disk
Click on Open Files icon
Navigate to where DVD Decrypter wrote the files
Select the folder (should be name of DVD)
Click Okay
Click on Edit / Preferences / File I/O / and click "Enable Burning with Nero"
Click on Backup
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4) Before backup could continue requested files, and when I put in blank disk can up disk empty, so I figured I needed original dvd to backup.
This is wrong. Above step corrects this. ]
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5) Backup went thru the process successfully, and gave me the file where it was located.
With "Enable burning to Nero" checked, The bar on top of the window reads "Encoding" then "Burning" and final step a message will show you where a set of Temporary Files that Shrink made to do it's job with. It will mention that you can delete then now if you like.
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6) Clicked on file, but wouldnot open.
7) Opened Nero classic mode
8) Chose dvd from the dropdown menu
9) Somehow managed to open the file from the harddrive and selected burn image to disk
10) Pulled up the file and got the screen recording: write premastered image brought up image file
on C drive to destination drive: image recorder DVD
11) Next screen came up looking for a file name
12) somehow got it to burn, but cannot play back on computer, yet original dvd I copied is the same type of dvd exactly. I think I have something wrong in the setup somehow, and thought maybe you could see what I am doing wrong. You have been so helpful and I really appreciate it. By the way nothing automatically goes to Nero, even though I have it enabled.
Sounds like you used Mode / ISO / Write in Decrypter. Never used this method myself. Just use file method until we get this working.
I have no idea why Nero is not being automatically called.
I'll pass that troubleshooting off to someone else who may be seeing the big picture clearer than me.
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millieann
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11. February 2005 @ 10:52 |
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Hi again LivnDgirl:
Followed your instructions to the nth degree. Everyting went as you said until the decoding was done with Shrink, then a box came up with the file name and then nothing else happened. Do I need to wait very long for the Nero to kick in? It just doesn't seem to happen and I did check it.
Next I went manually to Nero, located the files, and I think burned them.
But the files would not play back on my computer or my dvd player. Get message driver not ready.....
I also think you should know I was using memorex 8x
dvd+r disks and have since read that they are not too good and don't always work. Am going to get another brand today and will try that. I was told to get the dvd+r disks and assumed they would work on this computer, so that may be some of my problem. I can access the movie thru the folder on Nero showtime, so I know the first part seems to be working. It is just the burning that isn't working. If you have anything to add, let me know, and I will keep you posted. Your instructions were very clear. If you have any for the setup for Nero that would help too.
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