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poetprose
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6. March 2005 @ 04:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello , I've been baking up my DVD disks for some time now , using several brands of DVD disks, I honestly do not see much of a quality difference between the brands, or in the + or - format.. However some of the cheaper brands don't always burn without error, I'm wondering if it is the way in wich I have backed up the disk or is it the actual disk itself?

So I'm wondering if there really is a quality issue in some of the cheaper brand disks ,
\I use BenQ +

any feedback would be appreciated has anyone noticed a quality difference between lets say a Verbatum /vs Benq
or any other brand disks

thx for your feedback
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bassnut
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6. March 2005 @ 04:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes the quality of the disk does make a difference. Verbaitim disks are concidered among the best. There is the other form ..... DVD-R Media which will cover everything..... check it out. I personaly have not tried BenQ disks so I will not comment on them but you can find out about them in th Media form.


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However some of the cheaper brands don't always burn without error
It seems you answered your own question.







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6. March 2005 @ 05:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is actually i feel a very important topic. I feel there is a very big difference in quality. Having bunred close to a thousand disks, there is some major differences. Some disks, such as memorex for example, don't always burn at full speed. Those disks i always have to lower a notch so I don't get a coster. TDK, great disk, but the older 4x disks don't always play in my dvd player, an old JVC that plays most things. The problem is all blank dvd's don't use a similar standard. Also the quality standards in each factory are vastly different. That makes a big difference
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6. March 2005 @ 06:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok so if a disk is burning without any glitches period, and you get sucessful burns,each time, yet the price of the disk is say a half a dollar per disk,sale price vs/ a 2 dollar per disk Verbatum

would the difference be that discernable to the eye? or ear

that is what I was getting at ....
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6. March 2005 @ 06:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
2 bucks a disc??? you need to find a different place to shop for media.If you buy online, or look for sales,you can get verbatim,sonys,fujis for less than 50 cents a disc.
The biggest question is longevity,will those el-cheapo's play in a year?







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poetprose
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6. March 2005 @ 06:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well the cost of disks in Canada might be more than the US . Mostly we have seen Verbatums here for apx 1.50 a piece retail,But mostly 2 bucks a piece we have not purchased online for disks, however maybe we should investigate this.

>>The biggest question is longevity,will those el-cheapo's play in a year?<<

Good question
we have been backing up DVDs now for about a year, and they seem to work fine, We were just wondering about wether or not there really is a discernable difference in quality sound &video

Have you noticed a difference in terms of quality using cheaper disks?
poetprose
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6. March 2005 @ 07:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
We just called Future shop and they sell Verbatums for 3.33 per disk, he said also that the average eye and ear can not discern the difference between a Verbatum verses a Benq or any other disk which you are having success with

any thoughts?
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6. March 2005 @ 07:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I learned early around here, to not use the cheap media.Ive used taiyo yuden,verbatim,fuji,and ritek all with good success.I really couldnt tell you about the cheap stuff.
Symptoms are read errors, pixilation,freezing,not playing at all.

Do a forum search, and see if you come up with anything for buying online in canada,im sure ive heard that question asked before.







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If they work for you ....great!







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poetprose
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6. March 2005 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well every now and then I will be watching the odd copy ,DVD and If I look at the faces especially I notice a sort of blurring out, then it goes clear, then it blurs out, but it happens so fast and so far nobody else seems to notice it but me......... wonder what that would be?

have you experienced this? btw thx for your feedback
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6. March 2005 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That "blurriness" is because your movie has been shrunk in size to fit to a 5-DVD so you will lose quality but the quality loss is very minimal. However, using DVD Shrink you can reauthor so that the movie will not need to be shrunk as much in size this way you can save your video quality but you will lose special features, chapter selections, subtitles, etc.

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6. March 2005 @ 08:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Awh.... ok thx , laugh, well at least I know it isn't me, hehehe

everyone is teasing me saying its all in my head, but it DOES happen... hubby did say he has had some movies that did need to be re- authored

he likes DVD shrink
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6. March 2005 @ 09:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have burned ..... Maxell..... fugi ..... memorex .... prodisk .... verbatim .... and Taiyo yuden. The end result ..... I have

5 Memorex left from 50
21 fugi left from 40
50 Maxell left from 50
20 Prodisk left from 40

This is after one year and does not include disks that I tossed besause they would not burn or froze. Some of my problems I can blame on labels but not all.

I have just started to use the Verbaitim and Taiyo Yuden so I won't include them here. Something that is noticable with the other disks compared to the Verbaitim and Taiyo Tuden flip them over in good light ..... take a close look at the recording side especially out near the edge. All the other ones you can notice light paterns from when they placed the die on the blank .. not the beter quality disks like .... Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden especially the Taiyo Yuden. This also veries from batch to batch. I have actually had some where there was some of the die coming out the side edge of the disk, you could see where the poly carbonate did not fully close in on the disk.

Prices here in Ottawa Canada.....

Staples .... Verbaitim printable.... $74.00 / 50 .... just on sale last week or so for 35.00 / 50

Walmart ..... Maxell .... $14 for 10 .... when on sale $8.00 ish

Future Shop / Best Buy ..... Maxell $59.00 / 50 when on sale for as little as 39 ish / 50

Sprint Computers .... Prodisk 8X hub printable disk ID F01 .... $29.00

Costco ..... TDK printable ..... $49.00 / 50

Blank Media.ca .... Taiyo Yuden 8X hub printable $50.00 / 50


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poetprose
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6. March 2005 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thankyou for your response, we were just wondering as to the quality in comparrison to the Benq,

Where we are located in Ontario we find so far that Future shop seems to offer the best deals for our Benqs

who knows we may just try a higher priced disk just to see if there is a difference in the quality
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6. March 2005 @ 12:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
mimesis
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6. March 2005 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well if you are looking for good DVD's go to www.shop4tech.com they have disks for real good prices especially if you buy in bulk, and shipping is free.

Such as :

DVD-R 1X-8X (G05 Silver Matte) Bulk by Ritek (Great media compared to Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden)
qty. price per unit
25 $14.75 [$0.59]
50 $24.50 [$0.49]
100 $39.00 [$0.39]
300 $114.00 [$0.38]
1000 $370.00 [$0.37]

DVD-R 4.7GB 1X-4X Silver Lacquer by Taiyo Yuden
qty. price per unit
100 $37.00 [$0.37]
200 $72.00 [$0.36]
500 $175.00 [$0.35]
1000 $340.00 [$0.34]

As you can see, much cheaper than Wal-Mart, Staples, Circuit City, Target, etc.

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6. March 2005 @ 14:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have used RIDATA(Ritek) for a while now and have had relatively good success with them, very few coasters. But the prices you pay for media, way too much. I pay .51 cents per disc(50 pack)for -R 8X. For 16X -R, I pay .99 cents. You should check out Computer Warehouse Outlet in the T.O. area. Or check them out online, cant beat their prices for media and hardware.
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6. March 2005 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Opps.
Their web address is..www.cwo.ca
poetprose
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6. March 2005 @ 15:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just ran the DVD Identifier and according to that little program benq is made by Daxon... never heard of them

boy that DVd identifier is a cool program huh?
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6. March 2005 @ 18:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well they are manufactured in Penang, Malaysia the headquarters for the company is in China. Other than that I am not sure about there media? It could be good then again it could be bad?



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1. April 2005 @ 14:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've burned about 1500 blanks over the past three years, and I have tried many different brands. In my view those Futureshop BenQs are ROCK SOLID, as good as my TYs and Verbatims. I have burned about 150 of them with ZERO failures, they play on anything, the 8X blanks burn at 16X every time.

Futureshop had them on sale a few weeks ago at $60 for 200 .. $0.30 each. BEST DEAL in the universe. You cannot go wrong with them.

Oh I gave up putting them through Neros quality test because they were consistently in the 95% range. OUTSTANDING disks.
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1. April 2005 @ 16:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have tried the BenQ dvd+r inkjet hub printables (DaxonAZ2) and the ones that played, played good. About half of the ones I burned weren't recognized by my set top player. At first I blamed the media but when the problem carried over to my verbatum's I started looking elsewhere. After reseting the eeprom on my dvdrw the Verbatums are burning excellent. I haven't tried another BenQ since I don't like the printable surface (looks like a stick on label) but I'd bet they are ok now.

The blured affect you were seeing is a result of compressing the vidio files to fit on a dvd5. The media won't cause this. The differences in media quality will be poor quality causing pixelations, skips or freezing, and longevity. There will be no difference in picture quality like with vhs or any magnetic tape.

To resolve the bluriness as mentioned previously, remove all the extras you can leaving only the movie and if useing shrink or recode2 enable the quality enhancements. You can also use some retail software that will do a better job of encoding. RB/CCE is best and DVDCopy3 is one of the better ones.

If you are not having any freezing or pixelation problems and your backups are lasting with the BenQ's and cheaper media, stick with it. I prefer Verbatum DLP and TY's. Hope this helps.
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1. April 2005 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Fuji is the best media .
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Depends on who made it. If it's MCC then yes it is very good.
 
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