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11. August 2007 @ 13:09 |
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after applying Arctic Silver to my chipset heatsink temps are down about six or seven degrees!
yeah that's very common. the thermal paste the mobo manufactures use between the chipsets and heatsinks is all but worthless and seldom even contacts the entire chipset and heatsink. I lowered my mobo temp almost 15 C by reseating the chipset heatsinks and adding 40x40x20mm chipset fans to both the SB and NB heatsinks.
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11. August 2007 @ 13:09 |
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Chipset temps are back up to mid forties. So I guess nothing changed.
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11. August 2007 @ 13:49 |
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abuzar1,
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Chipset temps are back up to mid forties. So I guess nothing changed.
That's a very good indication that your case ventilation needs improving. It's not just removing the heat from the CPU and chipset, it's also getting that heat removed from the case! That's the number one reason I got rid of the CPU air duct! Originally I had a side fan blowing in, but it too interfered with the CPU fan's airflow as well. Experimenting with different fan speeds after I had both Silverstones blowing out I settled on 1400 rpm for the rear 120 and the minimum 1300 rpm for the side 80. It's pretty hot out and the A/C is on. The room temp is 25C and my CPU is reading 26-27C and the MB is at 35C. The computer's been on for about 3 hours now so it's thoroughly warmed up!
One of the things I did notice in my experimenting with my DS3, is that the CPU and the northbridge are very close together. I think without enough good airflow through the case in the right places they heatsoak the MB and affect each other's temperatures. That's why I added the 40x40x20 Silenex 6 cfm fan to the heatsink because my Freezer 7 Pro overhangs the Northbridge heatsink a bit. I have it blowing down to keep the heat from warming up the CPU cooler even more. Here's my Everest info.
From L to R: R case fan speed, CPU fan, HD Temp, Vid card temp, core1 temp, core2 temp, CPU temp, MB temp and CPU idle speed.
Clock On,
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11. August 2007 @ 14:12 |
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OK, but isn't blowing in cool outside air to the CPU a good idea? Well my duct probably doesn't do that well either, it's about half an inch off. I don't even know my fan speed because this is what it shows!
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11. August 2007 @ 15:19 |
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OK, but isn't blowing in cool outside air to the CPU a good idea?
I agree that it would seem to make sense, but it hasn't turned out that way for my setup. It seems to do much better drawing in air through the vents because of the 125 or so cfm blowing out. I was originally going to put an FM-83 in as an intake fan, but the more I thought about it, the less sense that made as it would have cut down on the amount of air the static air vents pulled so I decided to leave it alone. As you can see by the results, it was a good move on my part. All I can assume is that the large air vent like yours has moves a lot of air over a larger area, making it a gentle breeze that doesn't interfere with the front to back airflow. The slower CPU cooler fan speed assures that the air going through the cooler picks up lots of heat and directs it into the natural case airflow and swiftly exits it out of the case.
I recently ran a series of tests on another forum. One was done while encoding with DVDRB/CCE and the other was done running OCCT. In fact I had to do the DVD Rebuilder test twice because I didn't think to include the Rebuilder screen in the pic. I even left the fan speeds alone at 1400 and 1300 rpms and it passed everything with flying colors. It did a quick flicker to 62C during the OCCT test and stayed in the mid 40s encoding. The chipset temp never went above 41C! Nothing failed or crashed and I was rightly damn proud of my baby! Sam was there and will verify my results.
I think after studying the design of your case, that with the same mods, you should reasonably be able to get about the same results. Both your case and mine have very similar designs as far as airflow goes. Curiously, if I let the CPU fan run at top speed, my temps go up! If I raise the case fans up higher, it doesn't help! I can't think of anything else I could do to improve on my present temps. Scientific mercury thermometers and a borrowed thermal probe with a gooseneck probe with a 3/16 tip have confirmed the reported temps within a degree or two. Everest's reported temps agree with the hardware monitor in the setup by about the same margin. needless to say, I'm happy with the results!
Best Regards,
Russ :>}
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11. August 2007 @ 15:28 |
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I believe you are right. Right around the chipset and cpu cooler there is a lot of hot air so exhating that would help. When I get a 80 mm fan I'll post up the results. Right my extra fans larger than 80mm and smaller than that. Just my luck!
EDIT: BTW what the hell is up with those fan speeds?
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11. August 2007 @ 15:50 |
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Speedfan often does it, it's a bug. My CPU fan is apparently 30,000rpm. Dream on!
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11. August 2007 @ 16:11 |
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sammorris,
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Speedfan often does it, it's a bug. My CPU fan is apparently 30,000rpm. Dream on!
They're just trying to convince you that your computer can "fly"! LOL!!
I like Everest Ultimate 2007 much better!
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theone :>}
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11. August 2007 @ 16:15 |
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another nice little free utility is pc wizard
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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11. August 2007 @ 18:52 |
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abuzar1,
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EDIT: BTW what the hell is up with those fan speeds?
It doesn't run properly on my DS3 v1.33! Sandra doesn't find the sensors either, and won't give temps or fan speeds! That's why I like Everest a lot better! No fuss, it just works the way it's supposed to! Slows down the boot-up a little, but who cares! LOL!!
Clock On,
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11. August 2007 @ 18:58 |
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It slows down the bootup, so, what, you keep it running all the time. I check it from time to time.
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11. August 2007 @ 19:28 |
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abuzar1,
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It slows down the bootup, so, what, you keep it running all the time. I check it from time to time.
Yeah, I do! It's a good thing to have running as if the computer starts doing anything funny, it's the first place I would look. I also have alarms set for the fans. Kaspersky takes a while too but it's benefits far outweigh the it's down side. Remember I go back to the day when you turned on the computer, popped in a disk and hope there were no errors 45 minuts later! LOL!! It's up and running in less than a minute so it's not a problem!
Clock On,
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11. August 2007 @ 19:31 |
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Russ, which days were those?
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11. August 2007 @ 22:06 |
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abuzar1,
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Russ, which days were those?
I think they had just invented dirt! LOL!! I go back about 24 years with computers. Back then the hot machine was a Comodore 64, with the worlds slowest 5.25" disk drive. It took about 35-40 minutes to load a game! That's if it didn't fail loading the program! I built my first PC in 1989, a 386DX/40 AMD chip on a Systems & Technologies (SIS) MB, with 512K of memory and a monitor that did VGA in 640x380 in 32,000 colors! Cost about $1600 to build! I just turned 63 in June!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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11. August 2007 @ 22:11 |
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Yeah well I've been dealing with PC for ONLY 12 years. BTW which would be a better cooler, The Scythe Katana or the Thermalright MST-9775?
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11. August 2007 @ 22:55 |
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abuzar1,
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BTW which would be a better cooler, The Scythe Katana or the Thermalright MST-9775?
I don't much fancy either of them as neither of them perform very well acording to Tomshardware and Anandtech. The Zalman CNPS9500 LED and the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro both cool a good deal better. I don't like coolers that throw off their heat to the side. I mean, why throw all that heat towards your video card? Not when there's usually a whopping big 120mm fan in the rear of most modern cases, just behind the CPU cooler. You're much better off with something that pushes the hot air to the rear, away from everything!
When I bought a Zalman CNPS9500 LED, I looked up tests on all the CPU coolers I could find and the Scythe Katana did very poorly in all of those tests! Still, the Scythe Katana is the better of the 2!
Clock On,
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12. August 2007 @ 01:59 |
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12. August 2007 @ 06:37 |
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this is also a very good cpu hsf. second only to the thermalright ultra 120 extreme but it is heavy and bulky.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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12. August 2007 @ 07:02 |
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Not that the Thermalright isn't!
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12. August 2007 @ 08:27 |
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When I saw the Thermalright, I thought the second link from you was gonna be the Tuniq Tower. Unfortunately I can't afford either. Can we keep it within 35 dollars?
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12. August 2007 @ 08:29 |
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12. August 2007 @ 08:30 |
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What are your temps like under load?
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12. August 2007 @ 08:34 |
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Overclocked from 1.8Ghz to 3Ghz, and Overvolted from 1.325V to 1.425V, I get around 49C at full fan speed, around 53C at 70% fan speed, and this is in a hot room.
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12. August 2007 @ 08:35 |
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The UK is HOT?
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12. August 2007 @ 08:38 |
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It is this week, but my room is anyway, I don't keep it well ventilated.
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