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DVD Shrink encoding time too long!
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9. October 2004 @ 19:23 |
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No problem with the long post...it is all good info. My first thought is that your CPU has an overheating problem.
Launch the Performance funtion of Task Manager. See above for instructions. Your CPU should be around 15 to 40% for Decrypter. For Shrink, a constant 100%. If you see it drop with Sfhrink, it likely means your CPU is overheating. If not, you might have a memory module going bad. Let us know what read-out you get, and then it will be possible to direct you further.
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sas7042
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9. October 2004 @ 19:35 |
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Hi. Thanks Doc409 for posting quickly. I ran Decypter again and its using under 20%, and DVD Shrink is at 100%.
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9. October 2004 @ 19:45 |
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OK, so with the CPU showing 100%, you are saying that Shrink is showing about 1000 kbs?
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9. October 2004 @ 19:54 |
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It sounds like a combination of 2 problems. First, I would dl a new Shrink file, as the one you are using may be corrupt in some way.
You should also be able to use Nero, and if not, it is likely the ASPI layer (but this has nothing to do with slow Shrink encode times). Launch Nero's Infotools, and check the ASPI tab. Post the results. It should be a green bar if everything is OK.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. October 2004 @ 19:55
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sas7042
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9. October 2004 @ 20:48 |
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Hi Doc409, I checked the ASPI and it says its installed and working. I downloaded DVD Shrink and installed it several different times and on different drives and its still having problems. When I try to encode using disc in plextor it would analyze 1,000 kb/s or less and would take over 5min. Before I started having problems it analyzed a disc under a minute. Now I have to rip the disc to hard drive which Decrpter does do it fast. When I use the files and encode Shrink it starts out 5,000-6,000 kb/s and after 1 min it drops to low 2,000kb/s goes from saying it will be complete in 20-30 min to over an hour and after another min it has dropped to under 2,000 kb/s with the CPU working at 100%. In the past when Shrink was working right it would start out 3,000kb/s and increase to 4,000-5,000. I don't know what's going on. I thought buying a SATA drive would decrease the time it takes to encode and burn but I guess not. Thanks for you ideas and help.
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9. October 2004 @ 20:52 |
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Have you tried different DVD's? Does it do the same with all of them? Sometimes you can get a problem DVD that Shrink doesn't like, but Decrypter handles very well. This is especially true of some of the newer releases.
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sas7042
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9. October 2004 @ 21:10 |
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Hi Doc409, its doing it with all discs. I didn't have these problems until I installed service pack 2. Not only did I have problems with Shrink but Decrypter was reading at less than 1,000. I tried to restore the computer to previous point before I had trouble but it wouldn't let me do it. I then reinstalled xp and still had problems, so I then reformated the drive and installed XP, Decrypter, Nero and Shrink. Decrypter seems to be working fast. I've installed Shrink several more times and downloaded to see if it would recognize Nero but so far no luck. The speeds its encoding is agonizing. Any more suggestions. I wish I had never installed sp2. Thanks
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9. October 2004 @ 21:16 |
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Well, we could check to make sure your drives are in DMA mode, and not PIO. Since things are OK with Decrypter, I would think that DMA would be OK. The easiest way to check is to go back to Nero INfoTools, and check the "Configuration" tab. It should show DMA ON for all channels. Post what you find.
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sas7042
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9. October 2004 @ 22:46 |
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Hi. I checked on the Nero info tool. It doesn't say DMA on it says auto run. I checked in the device manager and the
(primary channel)-'master' current-Ultra DMA5-ultra 100. transfer bios default.
'slave'-Ultra DMA6-ultra 133- transfer bios default
(secondary channel)-'master' ultra DMA2-ultra 33
raid controller it doesn't say anything about dma or pio
the sata drive- ultra DMA6
Why isn't it showing up in Nero? I really appreciate your help. Thanks
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10. October 2004 @ 09:10 |
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The "Current Transfer Mode" should show "Ultra DMA Mode"...at least that what it does with W2k...which I use. I would suggest you also check your BIOS and make sure it is also set for DMA Enabled.
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10. October 2004 @ 09:10 |
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Double Post.
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sas7042
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10. October 2004 @ 11:17 |
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Hi. I checked in the bios and the only reference to DMA was ECP. Where should I find it in BIOS? Was there something I was suppossed to do when I reinstalled windows? It does shows current transfer Ultra DMA but tranfer mode with drop down box is set to bios default, which I've tried to change but stays at bios default. I'm trying to update new drivers for ide/controller through ms updates to see if it changes. I don't remember what updates I had before I reinstalled XP the other day. Previous to the reinstallation my computer was up to date and stable for over 4 months. Have you had any problems with the service pack 2? I'm wondering if I get this problem worked out if I should try the update again. That's what started the trouble. I thought everything would be working properly again when I started fresh with a clean install of XP. I'm hoping its software related but it could be hardware as I've been experiencing several power surges one right after the other on more than one occasion the last two days. It doesn't look like my APC power backup is doing what it is supposed to. Is there a program that I can use to test the hardware. Thanks for your help.
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10. October 2004 @ 12:38 |
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About SP2. I think a lot of people have installed it without a problem. Since you had a problem, I'm thinking that you had a software conflict brewing anyway.
Right now all indications are that you didn't get a good install of XP the last time around. You do need to go online to get the updates, and you should have an *updated* anti-virus program running when you do ... or you could pick up a virus before your XP system is completely updated. This is what happened with me with W2k, anyway.
About your hardware...indications are that it is working properly. As you pointed out, things were stable before SP2 was installed. This definitely points to a software problem.
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sas7042
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10. October 2004 @ 13:09 |
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Hi. Before I reinstall xp again what setup do you recommend. Here's my current setup:
IDE 1- master 60GB WD unsure if ata 100 or 133- currently has operating system; slave 120GB Maxtor which is 133;
IDE 2- Primary Plextor 712a dvd writer - set cable select
(Raid but setup for ATA)
IDE 3- 80GB Seagate Barracudu which i believe ata 100
IDE 4- NEC 1100 DVD writer set CS
SATA - 160 GB WD
What in your opinion would be the appropriate setup to get the fastest system. Thanks.
ps I updated my system bios and still could not find an option in the bios to see if it was set for ultra dma
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sas7042
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10. October 2004 @ 13:32 |
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Hi Doc409. I installed the newer nvidia drivers and it changed my setup. I was able to run a speed test. This is the results. I don't know anything about the results so I don't know if its good or bad.
Primary
Master
WD 60GB-Ultra DMA 5-Ultra 100
Theoretical limit: 100.00
Burst Speed: 84.9
Sustained Speed: 46.7
Slave
Maxtor 120GB-Ultra DMA 6-Ultra 133
Theoretical limit: 133.3
Burst Speed: 107.5
Sustained: 47.5
Secondary Channel
Plextor 712A
Ultra Dma-2
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sas7042
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10. October 2004 @ 13:32 |
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Hi Doc409. I installed the newer nvidia drivers and it changed my setup. I was able to run a speed test. This is the results. I don't know anything about the results so I don't know if its good or bad.
Primary
Master
WD 60GB-Ultra DMA 5-Ultra 100
Theoretical limit: 100.00
Burst Speed: 84.9
Sustained Speed: 46.7
Slave
Maxtor 120GB-Ultra DMA 6-Ultra 133
Theoretical limit: 133.3
Burst Speed: 107.5
Sustained: 47.5
Secondary Channel
Plextor 712A
Ultra Dma-2
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sas7042
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10. October 2004 @ 13:34 |
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Sorry for the double post
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Buik
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10. October 2004 @ 14:14 |
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TO: sas7042.
IDE:1 looks OK
IDE:2 I don't trust CABLE SELECT. Try setting it to MASTER since it is the only drive on that channel.
IDE:3 ??? Is this and on-board connection or a PCI IDE controller card?
IDE:4 Same thing as for IDE:2
I'm thinking that you have things set up a bit wrong and that your OS, BIOS and Programs are not interacting as well as they should.
TC
I wouldn't want to F*ck any of the Kerry's. I've got some standards
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sas7042
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10. October 2004 @ 14:36 |
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To Buik:
Everything is on the motherboard. What set up do you suggest. I will try setting my plextor drive to master. I've seemed to have got a little faster speed using file in Shrink its hovering around 3,000kb/s instead of dropping to low 2,000 within a minute of starting. I'm still having slow speeds encoding with disc in drive lower 2,000kbs. When I used Shrink to move an already shrinked file from one drive to another I'm getting 50,000+ kb/s but its not actually encoding anything since its already under 4.36gb. Thanks for any suggestions.
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10. October 2004 @ 14:38 |
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sas7042...
If you don't have a lot of experience with these components, I suggest taking it one step at a time with the installation.
I don't trust cable select either, yet I think I remember reading that it is recommended with the newer Plextors. I don't have one, and couldn't tell you.
It would be good to know what mobo you have before making any firm configuration suggestions.
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sas7042
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10. October 2004 @ 14:55 |
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Hi Doc409
I have Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro 2 motherboard
nVIDIA nFORCE2 Chipset
Socket A / AGP 8X
4DDR (dual channel)
6-Chan Audio/ USB 2.0 / 1394
SATA/RAID/ATA133
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10. October 2004 @ 17:25 |
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Here's a nice article on your mobo. Your mobo has a lot of capabilities...more than which can be discused here. If you are going to try to run all the devices, make sure you have an adequate power supply. http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/gigabyte-7nnxp/
It appears the board will support parallel and serial RAID at the same time, which I find interesting. Anyway, the way you've listed things makes it look like you are running an optical drive on the parallel RAID. RAID is intended for hard drives. For basics, you should always put your optical drives on their own IDE channel, and your HDD drives on the other...that is , don't mix the two on the same channel if it can be avoided.
As a final note, I would start out with just one hard drive and one optical drive, and get these working first with SP2 installed...as well as Shrink and Nero. I would then add these other components one-by-one, rebooting each time their drivers are installed.
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sas7042
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10. October 2004 @ 17:42 |
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Thanks Doc409 for all your help and information. I will try that. One more question would it be better to install xp on a larger drive or does it really matter. I've been using my other drives for my files and using the 60gb for my programs and the operating system.
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10. October 2004 @ 18:17 |
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That's a good question, especially with video rendering. Drive speed is much more important than size. Put your OS on your fastest drive with the most buffer memory. Try to use a 7200 RPM with 8 or 10 MB buffer. I would even suggest you partition this hard drive so that you only put software files on the root partition...and I think 20 GB would be more than enough. This 20 GB will also leave room for a 4000 MB min and max page file (virtual memory)that you will need to set yourself. What this configuration will do is isolate your system files from becoming fragmented. You can use the balance/other partition to store all your information files, mp3's, etc.
You will also need to put a page file on the other partition or drive(s) where you will be encoding the video files. For the greatest speed, you will likely want to use a separate hard drive for these video files. What this does is put two hdd read/write heads into the process, rather than one.
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NEONADAM
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10. October 2004 @ 18:20 |
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mine encrypts at 2500kb and my cpu usage is 100% i have shrink in background mode but Nero info aspi says not installed how do i install?
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