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UncasMS
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9. September 2005 @ 08:41 |
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using my pc when converting i cannot agree to only 1-5% decrease
it was considerably more the last couple of times i compared encoding speeds
of course it heavily depends on what you're doing with the pc
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9. September 2005 @ 09:21 |
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Hi vurbal,
I guess I don't understand how to set up dvd-rb in idle priority. Could you further explain please. I'm interested. Thanks.
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UncasMS
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9. September 2005 @ 10:25 |
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1.
open notepad
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insert this:
start /low Rebuilder.exe
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save the file into your rebuilder directory and set the extension to *.bat instead of *.txt
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doubleclick this new rebuilder_low.bat (or whatever you have named it)
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9. September 2005 @ 10:51 |
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using my pc when converting i cannot agree to only 1-5% decrease
it was considerably more the last couple of times i compared encoding speeds
of course it heavily depends on what you're doing with the pc
It will definitely depend on what you're doing. If you do anything else that's CPU intensive it will take significantly longer since any other program will get priority over RB. I was assuming, probably incorrectly, that using the computer referred to things like websurfing that aren't CPU intensive.
When I first experimented with CCE (CCE SP 2.67) I read on Doom9 that the difference was around 3%. I didn't believe it until I tested for myself, but my own tests with that version of CCE and newer versions of CCE Basic have shown the difference I stated. Of course I've only tested this with a handful of movies and only 2 CPUs (Duron 900MHz and P4 2.4GHz) and with 768MB RAM on each machine, so there are certainly variables I haven't taken into account.
I have, however, done other experiments with Windows and priority settings that lead me to the conclusion that multiple CPU intensive tasks are more efficient when run simultaneously at idle priority. For example, when I use EAC to rip a CD and convert it to MP3 files I only get about a 25% slowdown when I have three encoding operations running at a time, making it much faster to do it that way. Of course if I had less memory this might not be true since I'd be taking a substantial performance hit by using the pagefile where I'm currently using RAM. Maybe not completely relevant to this discussion, but still interesting.
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9. September 2005 @ 12:19 |
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Thanks UncasMS. I'll give it a go.
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9. September 2005 @ 14:00 |
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Wow dvd-rb idle priority made all the difference in the world. My pc used to drag even trying to surf the web while dvd-rb/cce was running, now I can't even tell it's running. Cool. I'll have to see how much it slowed it down.
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UncasMS
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9. September 2005 @ 14:28 |
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My pc used to drag even trying to surf the web while dvd-rb/cce was running
that actually surprises me a little bit as you said you were using a 2.8 @ 3.x pentium
running rb + hc/procoder/cce has not slowed me down noticably on an athlon64 3500 + 1gb ram
will give it a try again this very minute out of curiosity
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9. September 2005 @ 14:36 |
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Yeah suprised me a bit too. Almost hated useing dvd-rb/cce during the day in case I needed to access the web. I could still surf but took about 3 times as long to open pages. I can't even tell rb/cce is running now (right now as I type). I haven't noticed that idle mode has slowed the encode time down.
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UncasMS
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9. September 2005 @ 14:46 |
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i have 100% cpu usage this minute running:
rb pro + hc 016 test release
firefox with 2 tabs + 1 download
quintessential mp3 player
total commander
remote admin
rb + hc run in normal priority and i can spot no lag at all
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10. September 2005 @ 10:54 |
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so with all this multitasking you guys are doing, are there errors on the output files?
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10. September 2005 @ 11:21 |
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Hi squizzle,
I've never had any errors even before I was useing idle mode and my pc was doggy.
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10. September 2005 @ 12:08 |
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Sophocles has his encode times down to under an hour with his athlon venice core cpu.
a minor correction, I haven't been able to encode anything in under an hour. On large sized DVD's my fastest was 72 minutes but my average is between 78 and 84 minutes. As Vurbal just stated you need SSE2 instructions to benefit from speed gains. In RB under the idct settings I've been using the one that is the third from the bottom.
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10. September 2005 @ 12:20 |
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Hi Soph,
Yeah I corrected myself. I was over bragging your achievements.
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Oops looks like I lied. I looked up Sophs posts and one encode time was 74 min 7.62 gigs and another one was 76 min for a 7.82 gig folder and yet one more in 80 min for a 8.1 gig folder. I'm only quoting what he posted. He could probably do movie only in less than an hour or close to it.
Would you please explain those idct settings a little more for me. Will it work with my P4 2.8 ghz @ 3.2 ghz?
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10. September 2005 @ 12:34 |
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You'll find it under Avisynth options in DVD Rebuilder Pro. There's a list that pops up with several choices. I wish I could tell you more but I just did a reformat and reinstall and I don't have copy of RB/Pro at this time.
I was messing with over clocking and some things got corrupted to the point of failing to boot.
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10. September 2005 @ 12:55 |
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that actually surprises me a little bit as you said you were using a 2.8 @ 3.x Pentium
Encoders are CPU intensive (virtually 100%) and the faster the CPU is the more they'll make use of it. There is no such thing as true multi tasking on a single core CPU, what's happening is that windows is switching back and forth between them (oscillating) and if you're using a single processor then you will definitely see some slowdown.
If you're using a dual core CPU then windows can assign one application per core but if you're using CCE then it's going to use both cores because it's multi threaded and it will use virtually 100% of both of them. When you're using RB/avisynth they're single threaded applications and you could see some increased speeds but when they're being used by CCE, you should still experience a slow down.
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10. September 2005 @ 13:12 |
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I was messing with over clocking and some things got corrupted to the point of failing to boot.
I thought I was the only one that pulled those kind of stunts. :)
I might play with those idct settings. I didn't know what they were. Still don't really but can't hurt to play.
Mort
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10. September 2005 @ 13:27 |
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The idct settings in RB aren't an actual part of RB itself, they're settings that are utilized by DGDecode.dll.
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14. September 2005 @ 16:51 |
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I'm still not sure what it does but under AVS options I set decoder iDCT to 32 bit SSE2/MMX and it cut on average about 15 min off my encode times.
Mort
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14. September 2005 @ 18:44 |
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so with this rebuilder batch file to get low priority, do you have to run that every time you run rebuilder? Or just if you reboot your PC?
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15. September 2005 @ 03:40 |
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You have to use it to start DVD-RB every time
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9. October 2005 @ 17:29 |
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hi i was reading this intersting post...and i was hoping if u can help me solve my problem...my problem with CCE is not multi tasking..its the speed it self...i get max speed 3.0 and i KNOW it should be more...i got 3.0g INTEL CPU 1536 ram 500gig HDD
any ideas or solutions?
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10. October 2005 @ 04:46 |
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The speed is going to vary depending on the specific qualities of the video (ie fast motion, lots of details, animation, etc,...) but in general I wouldn't say a top speed of 3.0 is out of line. If you haven't selected the fastest idct in the advanced AviSynth options you could probably get a small increase there - your CPU should do best with SSE2/MMX.
The best speed I've managed with my P4 2.4GHz is around 2.6, and normally it's not that fast. Plus now I use at least 1 additional AviSynth filter so it never goes above 2.2 and is usually in the 1.65 - 1.85 range.
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10. October 2005 @ 05:34 |
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neovortex
I was using a Northwood P4 overclocked to 3.149 GHZ and my speeds were around what you've just posted. I'd say you're getting about as much speed as your going to with your system.
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