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Using Computer While Running RB
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TomBrookl
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2. September 2005 @ 09:02 |
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I started my first job with RB following the UncasMS's guide on this forum and then read at the bottom of the guide that keyboard entries might disturb RB.
I have to use my computer now, so may have to abort the job and run it later. However, I minimized RB and will go about my computer use as I must now. Is it possible RB will run OK since it's minimized, or is it certain to get screwed up, in which case I might as well just abort the job now.
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hotdogvl
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2. September 2005 @ 09:16 |
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I think if you really need to use your computer than stop the job.
your video might come out all messes up
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2. September 2005 @ 09:43 |
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I agree with hotdogvl using your computer now would run the risk of messing up the file. Using DVDRB is CPU intenisiv you are running at about 100% using the computer would just take away resources from RB.
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TomBrookl
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2. September 2005 @ 10:11 |
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The job locked up and stopped progressing. Maybe it was because of some key I typed on. I won't try it again until I'm otherwise not useing the computer. How long does it take about to do a typical DVD. The one I'm trying to back up now is a TV Episode disk. It has four 1 hour episodes and is an 8+Gig disk.
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agent-k
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2. September 2005 @ 15:07 |
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It depends how many passes you've told it to do.
You're looking at a few hours of not being able to use for other stuff.
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UncasMS
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2. September 2005 @ 15:11 |
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It depends how many passes you've told it to do.
and of course very much on your cpu + encoder engine + settings + ram + number of harddrives a little bit
in other words: hard to generalize
cce with 2 passes will do the fastest job, procoder2 may be slightly faster than hc enc (with profile best)
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5. September 2005 @ 07:03 |
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just do as many do. set it to work overnight.
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
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5. September 2005 @ 18:10 |
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my computer has 2 processors and I am woking with 2Gigs of DDR2 RAM. I use my DVD programs and surf the net without any problems. I usually let the computer go when burning but I haven't had any problems with doing another program at the same time! My HyperThread EXtreme computer can handle it without any problems to the enconding and burning! I have over 560 backups now and no problem with any of them! They all work fine..... I watch them all!
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MovieDud
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5. September 2005 @ 18:21 |
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I'm with Ihoe, my system is not as big, but I can do other things without causing problesm, andI have watched the back-ups to check. I would suggest that you take advantage of the batch processing and let Rebuilder work throughout the night and burn them later or set it up to burn the ISO image. I like to let Rebuilder work throughout the night. Works great.
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kreigle
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6. September 2005 @ 12:35 |
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my computer has 2 processors and I am woking with 2Gigs of DDR2 RAM. I use my DVD programs and surf the net without any problems. I usually let the computer go when burning but I haven't had any problems with doing another program at the same time! My HyperThread EXtreme computer can handle it without any problems to the enconding and burning! I have over 560 backups now and no problem with any of them! They all work fine..... I watch them all!
I agree. My dual processor system is only a P3 850 with 768Meg, however I can easily do other tasks while RB/CCE run in the background - task manager usually shows around 80% utilization. My wifes single-processor Celeron 1100 with 512Meg practically locks up when you try to do something else with RB/CCE running, while task manager shows 90%+ utilization. DVDs usually take me about 7-10 hrs on my computer, and around 12 hrs on my wife's.
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6. September 2005 @ 14:35 |
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Although I don't recommend it I sometimes multi-task only if I absolutely have to while rb/cce is running. I have a 2.8 ghz cpu o/c'ed to 3.2 and 1 gb of ram. The task manager shows cpu usage at 100% and my pc is slow as a snail while rb/cce is running. It takes me on average about 2 hours to encode a 6.5 gb folder. Multi-tasking has never screwed up any of my backups. I still don't recommend multi-tasking while rb/cce is running.
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6. September 2005 @ 15:08 |
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it takes me only 1 1/2 hours for R/B to do it's job and that's with multitasking!
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6. September 2005 @ 15:14 |
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Sophocles has his encode times down to under an hour with his athlon venice core cpu.
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MovieDud
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6. September 2005 @ 16:48 |
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For a 2 1/2 hour movie it takes RB/CCE Basic 2 hr. 30 mins. (Prepare, Encode, Rebuild) then 15 minutes to burn. I can typically do 3-4 jobs in batch mode throughout the night. I feel that this is worth it for the quality you get. Hard to distinquish between the copy and the original.
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l8nights
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6. September 2005 @ 17:13 |
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under an hour soph?? that is blazing!!! how much processor/ram does this monstosity have. I am in awe. I think I have tower envy it is taking me 180min and change (prepare,encode,and rebuild)w/ilvu and I thought that was decent.
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6. September 2005 @ 18:00 |
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Oops looks like I lied. I looked up Sophs posts and one encode time was 74 min 7.62 gigs and another one was 76 min for a 7.82 gig folder and yet one more in 80 min for a 8.1 gig folder. I'm only quoting what he posted. He could probably do movie only in less than an hour or close to it. Here are his specs.
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
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Venice core, currently@ 2.64 GHZ
2 Gigs dual channel Corsair XMS DDR 400
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7. September 2005 @ 05:54 |
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Mort..... depends on the movie......I have gotten 75 mins...... but on the average it's like 90mins! And I have seen movies that are just 1 hour and 20 mins take longer than 90 mins!!!! weird huh?
Mort.... I have never used batch..... what does that do? How do you use it? and when do you use it? in what cIrcumstances?
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7. September 2005 @ 09:04 |
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IHoe,
Yeah there's no rhyme or reason to it. I seldom backup movie only in which case I usually use dvdcopy3 for that job unless it's a very long movie like LOTR. I usually keep everything except previews, trailers, and warning screens. The polished and trimmed folder is on average between 6.5 gb and 7.0 gb.
Batch processing is nice when you have 2 or more folders that you want to encode while you're sleeping or at work. You set up dvd-rb like normal for the 1st folder then under file click save project. Do the same for the remaining folders you want to encode saving them under a different name. Then click batch then add and locate your saved folders and click open one at a time. When they're all loaded click start. I made a special folder called CCE batch folder to save my folders in for batch processing.
Mort
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UncasMS
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7. September 2005 @ 13:41 |
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reaching 2.5x encoding speed with CCE is far from unusual with an athlon64
thus a 90 min movie can be done in ~72 min
no big deal
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squizzle
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7. September 2005 @ 13:59 |
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I've got an Athlon 64 3400+ CPU with 1GB of RAM and using RB I get encode speeds of like 160 minutes on avg. with about 8+ GB original. That is using the Undot plugin though. Times are much shorter without using the plugins.
[edit] As far as multitasking, I don't recommend it but I have noticed that whenever I do something with my PC while running RB it "pauses" so to say.
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TomBrookl
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8. September 2005 @ 15:59 |
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It sounds like some people have been able to multitask, but I'll try doing my backups overnight for now to be safe. Thanks for the feedback.
TomBrooklyn
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Lumbastio
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8. September 2005 @ 23:24 |
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You guys are lucky. Today is my first time using RB with HC and after almost 6 hours I am only 52.4% complete. I really can't let my PC remain idle since 12 hours is a long time even for an overnight session and since I am studying, classical must play. But then again, I have every single worthy security installed and running on my PC: SpywareBlaster, SpywareGuard, Spybot, Microsoft Antispyware, Ad-Aware Professional with ad-watch, and Norton Antivirus (not to mention AnyDVD and FireFox.) I sure hope the DVD will turn out to be perfect. Some say that if I buy the CCE, I'll get faster encoding times, if not a little better quality. Do you know how much faster will it be?
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l8nights
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9. September 2005 @ 05:29 |
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cce is the fastest encoder but only marginally. did you try going offline and shuting down all background app's even spyware& anti-virus? since you are offline this should not hurt you!
what title are you rebuilding??? what version of rebuilder are you using?(pro?) I was once told any movies with interleaving will take a long time on the freeware versions!
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squizzle
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9. September 2005 @ 05:32 |
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not sure how much faster CCE will be, but I have heard that it is faster. What are your PC specs? I have a 2.2 GHz CPU and 1 GB of RAM and I still get 2 hours+ encode times, slower PCs with less RAM will get even higher encode times. Do you use the Undot or Deen plugins or any other AVISynth plugins? Those will also increase your encode times by quite a bit.
I would recommend ending all those processes like all that spyware stuff while doing a movie. Those all eat resources and it appears that you have a lot of them. Personally I only use Microsoft AntiSpy and Norton AntiVirus, since I've been running FireFox I haven't run into spyware or adware like I used to with Internet Explorer.
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
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9. September 2005 @ 08:32 |
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If you're using CCE it also makes a big difference what CPU you have. The latest versions are optimized for SSE2 instructions. While even Celeron processors from the P4 family support those instructions, no 32 bit AMD CPU does (all 64 bit AMD's do). As a result, I can get better speed from a mobile Celeron 1.7GHz than a friend of mine does from his desktop Athlon 2200.
In terms of multi-tasking, the best way to manage this is to run DVD-RB at idle priority. That will mean any program it starts (ie CCE) will also run at that priority. Even though it sounds like it would make encoding take a lot longer, in reality it should only mean a time difference of around 1%-5%. All you have to do is start DVD-RB with a batch file like this:
start /low Rebuilder.exe
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