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Blu-Ray Vs. HD DVD - The Polite Debate..
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diabolos
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23. October 2005 @ 16:52 |
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True, but I was thinking they would go cheap with the movies and stick it to you with recordable media and recorders!
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marik1234
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23. October 2005 @ 17:17 |
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23. October 2005 @ 17:32 |
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Hmm...since it is on a Playstation website, writen in a Playstation forum, about an item that will benifit playstation, and the fact that the source is Ps3 Updates...not an actual site...What I am getting at is that the person could have easily written the articel themselves and posted it. I'll believe it when I see a reputable source.
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marik1234
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23. October 2005 @ 17:40 |
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Believe what u want to believe, they couldnt have came up with that idea to decrease costs...but u never know, who knows?
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ASexyNerd
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25. October 2005 @ 22:02 |
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diabolos
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26. October 2005 @ 02:32 |
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That price is a little inflated (I wonder how much profit prostock makes off each disc?). Plus, mass-production works wonders on price marks. Then their is the competition between the big retailers (ie Bestbuy, Curcuit City, Media Play, ect...) thay will keep everything (relativly) honest as far as consumer price once BD hits the market and the PS3 debuts.
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SirRanRap
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18. November 2005 @ 01:32 |
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i think i am just going to find my old betamax find an 8track at a yard sale move to a cave and get an abacis to do my taxes.
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18. November 2005 @ 07:46 |
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Take it you are stuck in the 1980's then.... LOL :)
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Blaxx85
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3. January 2006 @ 03:37 |
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Has anyone but me noticed that any new format Sony supports seems to go down the drain. First there was beta, as bob mentioned. How many people have an old Minidisc player lying around, that you barely used. UMDs are only surviving bevause of the PSP games, but I think that movies will stop being made on UMDs. So, how will blu-ray fair??
That's because Sony is greedy with both Beta and MD, they created new media formats and wanted other manufacturers to pay them for the rights to use them. JVC came out with VHS and told everybody else they could play too. MD never really took off because you could listen to about 4 CDs before you finished transferring an hour of music to one of the discs LOL. I really expected Sony's music division to release a few albums in the MD format to push the media a bit
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H-Pschorr
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6. January 2006 @ 08:36 |
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I'm going out on a limb here with this comment. Blue-Ray & HD-DVD seam like the Laserdisc of the next generation. Laserdisc never really caught on - prices never reached the rock bottom that DVD has (yes I know volume has a lot to do with this). Yes I still have about 350 LD movies on the shelf.
As others have noted, most people do not have HDTV and even if they do, they are not using it to its full potential.
The current public does not care about quality - MP3 players prove this. People want volume and cheap, over quality. So unless either of these formats starts knocking on the door of DVD prices, they will remain the "elite" format for video buffs.
Once a player is released that plays both Blue-Ray and HD-DVD I?ll take the plunge and start buying my favorite movies in whatever format they are released in. I will not start replacing my entire movie collection, again.
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johny24
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6. January 2006 @ 22:02 |
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I agree with the price issues on these new Players. I dont own a HDTV yet beecause i dont want to replace all my tv's at home and HDTV's has lowered price however i will still wait a year a two and everything you have to get for it to get it up running is expensive. Also i feel DVD lifespan still has a good minimum 5 years. Remember Vhs lasted about 20 years correct me if im wrong.
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the_goat
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6. January 2006 @ 22:49 |
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If there is a technology company out there with an imaginaive R&D department, a bit of capitol backing, and the balls to go for it they could come up with a new inovation which would encompass both Blue Ray and HD DVD in a stand alone Player / Recorder if this could be produced at a price that doesn't read like a telephone number,then everyone would go for it .Otherwise the market for this new technology will be retarded for some time until a clear winner is apparent.
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mackdl
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7. January 2006 @ 08:50 |
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One might want to keep up with the latest developments from this site:
http://www.hddvd.org/hddvd/
Apparently, the grand unveiling (Jan 6, 2006 in Las Vegas) by Microsoft's Kevin Collins failed. He popped an HD DVD disc into a Toshiba production model, hit play............NOTHING!!!!
OOOPS!!!
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marik1234
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7. January 2006 @ 09:49 |
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LOL!!! Oh god, that was funny....lol funny as hell...thank u for posting that, im loving it, microsoft is really dumb to endorse HD-DVD...and this is just telling them, and Sony's already started to release movies in HD on DOUBLE LAYERED BLU-RAY discs, 54GB!!! Yes, they're all on 54GB ones, can u imagine the quality, they say thats the size of a movie totally uncompressed and with all the special features and whatnot. They're gonna release 4 a month and more like 10 a month later and so on. PS3 will also push Blu-Ray when it gets sold out in preorders and people see their favorite movies in Blu-Ray and buy them...u get the point.
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eddiechi
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11. January 2006 @ 05:41 |
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Is the lifespan of these potential new formats supposed to be better? I have read that the lifespan of DVD's can range from 25-150 yrs... also depending on quality and storage of media but just read a report that these guestimates are far fetched and that 2 yrs + is more like it, especially DVD-R's........ http://www.techspot.com/news/20078-cds-only-last-2-years-ibm-stor...
I have never actually seen a true and thourogh report on a DVDs lifespan but have seen some media deteriorate quite quickly, used to think it was just because it was chep media....... now I have my doubts
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Jkhmmr
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11. January 2006 @ 05:54 |
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Well actually disregard all those findings. They're not accurate at all. Simply put because they can't test them. They're just making predictions. What company would delay their product for a few years to accurately tell how long it will last???? And Microsoft endorsing HD-DVD actually doesn't matter at all. They don't make the drivers anyway and most of its customers support Bluray so in the end it does nothing.
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jontopia
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11. January 2006 @ 15:17 |
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The New Holographic Versatile Disk is going to blow both Blu -Ray and HD DVD out of the water
These disks have the capacity to hold up to 3.9 terabytes (TB) of information, which is approximately 160 times the capacity of single-layer Blu-ray Discs. The HVD also has a transfer rate of 1 Gbit/s. Optware is expected to release a 200GB disc in early june of 2006.
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11. January 2006 @ 15:33 |
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Sounds aight, but we'll wait & see....have you any links?
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jontopia
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11. January 2006 @ 15:38 |
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marik1234
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11. January 2006 @ 16:47 |
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OH MY ****IN GOD!!! jontopia, do you have any ****in idea how much those will cost??? NO. God...people make it seem like HVD's all that but dont say anything about price...im sure you'll buy 1 HVD disc for $50. Do u even know how much the burner will be in the beginning? They have to pay for the research and development costs too...im sure you'll spend $4000+ on one. :) They're for buisness use...I'm not going to say anything else because u might not have known about the cost...
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jontopia
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11. January 2006 @ 18:18 |
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Yes your right about the cost . Its like a mega 15.000 usd for the player and something like 200 usd for the disk .But like all technology the price will come down alot. I remember a time when Radio shack was selling a 100 MB hard drive for for a whopping 2,750 usd .
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marik1234
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12. January 2006 @ 13:44 |
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Yea, but that was like 20 years ago lol. I think it will be useful to us in about 10 years, after the PS3's lifespan ends with Blu-ray, prices will probably be really good, and we can afford it. But we'll have to wait till then, I'm expecting 10-20 years. I know that all next gen consoles, like PS4 will have it, but not till the end of PS3's lifespan, because I guarantee you x360 and revolution will not last that long, and by the time their next gen consoles come out, HVD may still be too expensive to manufacture. PS3 has a good future with Cell and Blu-ray. Leave it at Blu-ray for now.
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12. January 2006 @ 14:53 |
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Blu-Ray 50gb dual-layer HOT DOG!!!!
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Jkhmmr
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13. January 2006 @ 05:48 |
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I doubt it will be useful at the average consumer level in 10 years. It'll take more than that time. We haven't even seen if we can fully utilise 50GB. Much less like 4 TB. There are some 100GB Bluray discs that some Japanese company says they made but my guess is that in 10 years we'll be using like maybe 500GB discs.
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14. January 2006 @ 10:09 |
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so i have a question. will bluray and hddvd readers read older dvd's faster? will the blueviolet laser read dvds or will there also be a red laser?
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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