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my friend got married...
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5. January 2006 @ 16:04 |
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i like separation of church and state :D
religion, however, is irrelevent. people are racist because they want to feel superior. terrorists do what they do because they are trying to find a path, and one full of destruction pleases them. religion is simply the easiest justification to use; without it, they'd just come up with another one. i really wish they weren't lazy and stuck with the easy solution, as those rotten eggs give the 99% of people who use religion to better their lives and those around them a bad name.
as for religion, i feel it is a necessity. deny it as we might, human beings have been endowed with a spiritual side. that's just part of what separates us from the other, non-self-aware creatures of this world. our search for a higher power has given meaning to many lives, hope to the hopeless, charity to the poor, and salvation, on more than one level, to millions.
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5. January 2006 @ 16:08 |
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Thanks for the comments Auslander.
@craig, I too think religion is the basis of most violence. I know it is impossible for it to be vanquished, but it does cause quite a stir. People against people, people interpreting their holy books differentally, people with different beliefs of the same religion, the list goes on and on. Anyone trying to fix this problem would be a psycho -maniac and when he/she get's killed...they won't be a martyr.
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5. January 2006 @ 16:09 |
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i wanna be a martyr! i wanna die for the right to pee on politicians' cars!
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5. January 2006 @ 16:11 |
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haha, i'll support u in that, the peeing.
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5. January 2006 @ 16:18 |
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hell, i like to destroy sh*t, takes some f*ckin' stress and anger away and put in a felling of pleasure, but i am not terrorist, and im not saying that people who do follow their faith are terrorists, im saying that how terrorists do this in the name of alah ( however you spell it ) or in the name of any religion and then people say that people with a certain religion are terrorists.
if there was no religions these people would have not reason to blow themselves up, except because, " I feel like it."
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5. January 2006 @ 16:23 |
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why not pee on their door, or throw a bottle of pee throught their window
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5. January 2006 @ 16:24 |
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well it's spelled "allah," and the people doing so-called "holy war" or "jihad" are insane. they are misinterpreting the qu'ran/koran and saying that God told them to fight people. Jihad literally means struggle, you could serve jihad everyday whether you're struggling to accept someone or struggling to stop consuming alchohol. These terrorists are jerks and they have no idea what they're doing. They're misrepresenting Islam, and further pushing for stereotypes against Muslims. I don't agree with Auslander that people are just using religion as an excuse, but in this case I believe that's the problem.
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5. January 2006 @ 16:27 |
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Those jerks killed tons of people too. And have lots of hostages. If you didn't get the point their BAD people.
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5. January 2006 @ 16:29 |
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who are u talking to?
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5. January 2006 @ 16:29 |
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ohhh, i feel so happy ** tears run down my face **, some1 agrees with me, and disagrees with auslander. ¦¬D
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5. January 2006 @ 16:33 |
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god that sounded so childish, Quote:
their BAD people
if you tryed to make it sound like something that JD sais in scrubs to turk after he said " i miss you so much it hurts sometimes" it din't happen
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5. January 2006 @ 16:47 |
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auslander must be away researching this whole subject because he has almoast been proven wrong by 2 15 year olds when hes 18 and is so f*ckin' smart, hahahahaha.
lets get every1s opinion on this, just to see who is wrong, ** cought,auslander,cough **
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5. January 2006 @ 16:51 |
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first of all, Auslander didn't lose anything. he just displayed his opinion and said what he thought. you don't "lose" discussions, and this is a discussion not any right or wrong thing. be sure that i don't support you in this harassing of other members. and did u know there's an "edit" function?
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5. January 2006 @ 17:11 |
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that's crazy!
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5. January 2006 @ 17:21 |
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i suppose ill llook forward to it then :P
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5. January 2006 @ 17:22 |
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Marriage, I got married when I was 47, my first. You cannot possibly know anyone in just a week, month, or even a year. It takes much more time then that. Remember that the basic function of most organisms, mammals, etc. is to eat and multiply! The human species just decided to put morality into that multiplication and say that a monogamous marriage is the answer, even if it is against all odds. Fact is 50% end in divorce and nearly 80% have cheated on one partner or the other, at least here in the US.
IMHO ?Bottom Line...Take Your Time...And Make It Last Forever With The Right Partner, Friend, and Lover!?
Religion, well you will never get anyone to totally agree one way or another on this, just as you will never get anyone to agree one way or another on politics. Let?s face it, if we cannot create a quality living cell or being from scratch, (cloning is not from scratch,) how can we expect that everything on earth today just happened with a big bang. Our organs, tissue, blood, nerves, a flies eyes and reaction time, the way a dog can walk and run without thinking about it, and on and on and on, how can this be? Chance, luck, the big bang, or maybe just remnants of another civilization that went boom! God has represented everything that humans never could understand and gave reason for our existence. From ancient times with Sun, Moon, Rain, and Wind Gods, to now more of just one God we believe is the answer to those questions.
Just throwing in my 2 cents, thanks.
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5. January 2006 @ 17:27 |
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I love ur views on religion! As for marriage, the concept with arranged marriages is to see if it's a decent person, then get to know each other after marriage. Statistics reaally speak for themselves for arranged marriages, there are barely any divorces.
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5. January 2006 @ 17:50 |
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Kinza, how are partners looked at if they get a divorce? Does society put pressure on them to stay together or is it easy for them to get it? Remember that divorces were rare back many many years ago, but not today. I believe it is not that people wanted to stay together back then, I believe they had to stay together in order to save face within their culture. Believe it or not, I came from a heritage not so far from your own, but even though the majority of the population of my mothers country was Muslim, we were baptized orthodox, similar to the catholic religion. But if anyone ever got divorced, what was thought or said in the Church, heaven forbid!
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5. January 2006 @ 18:00 |
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lol, that's true but it's not as extreme as it was back then, at least in my understanding. i know a couple of peeople who are divorced, but it's true, relationships are meant to be kept together, and it's really big if they divorce.
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6. January 2006 @ 03:43 |
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if i was in love with a women and i was in a steady job with a steady home and i loved her i'd considering marrying her whether my mum approved or not.love conquers all.as for my dad hes a loser who i dont even talk to hes been married about 6times to 6different women.my dad cant support anyone not even his wife.i was raised by my mum who use to work up to 80hours a week when i was growing up.
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6. January 2006 @ 08:40 |
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craig: what was i wrong about? i don't follow you. everyone has slightly different views, but kinza's ideas did support mine that religion does provide an outlet from destruction, but only for those that want to destroy.
xboxdvl2: my grandpa has your dad beat. 9 marriages to 8 different women, 12-20 kids (we don't have a sure count), and god knows how many close relatives. thankfully, we've left kentucky and are nothing but a clan of four, separated from all, starting over in missouri :D
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6. January 2006 @ 09:14 |
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my views on religion are this: if its possible i believe in nothing but human nature although this is hard to do sometimes because every child brought up in the us is almost brain washed to some degree about god and church so i still find myself referencing biblic quotes although i dont believe in such but i think of my self as a scientific man ive always enjoyed science and physics the thought of someone creating everything is just obsered to me
as far a marrige im 23 myself and ive been maried for almost 2 years and i have a five year old little girl first time was a charm lol but im still with her (both girlfriend/now wife and daughter)and i plan on staying with her the rest of my time i would of loved to waited to get married till like 28 to 31 but in my sitchuation it just worked out better to do it sooner but i would not recommend it just to many things to experience before that happens
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6. January 2006 @ 13:31 |
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I am not religous, but I can be spiritual, at times! I do like the ability to think & do what I wish though!
Each to their own on this one!
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6. January 2006 @ 22:02 |
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organs, tissue, blood, nerves, a flies eyes and reaction time, the way a dog can walk and run without thinking about it, and on and on and on, how can this be? Chance, luck...
Strangely, ScubaBud, chance and luck spread over 4000 million years of sexual reproduction are a kind of 'layman' description of evolution.
The vast, huge, unimaginable expanse of time is incomprehensible to most; and fruit flies reproduce every 18hours or something... y'know?
It's all random selection and crossing-over (the meeting of 2 haploid cells).
Why do you think polar bears are white?
All the black, brown, and red ones died before they could reproduce.
1 out of 1000 was white (and they all mostly lived)...
Classic natural-selection, an evolutionary pressure.
Actually, the smallest mammal - say, a Field Mouse, is biologically a very very close relative to Humans and a miracle of higher life-form.
Don't they have spirits too? Where do you draw the line - only people?
What about whales and dolphins, and elephants? Some say whales are smart as people...
Well at least they don't have to get married (told ya they're smart :^)
Hey there's another dozen posts Craig - you'll be addict soon, LoL
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7. January 2006 @ 03:05 |
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A larger section of the quote...
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Our organs, tissue, blood, nerves, a flies eyes and reaction time, the way a dog can walk and run without thinking about it, and on and on and on, how can this be? Chance, luck, the big bang, or maybe just remnants of another civilization that went boom! God has represented everything that humans never could understand and gave reason for our existence.
What will happen when our planet earth goes boom? Will everything on it get spread over the galaxy? Will some of these particles land on another planet with an atmosphere similar to ours? Will time once again do its thing with what it has to work with? And when those new organisms try to determine where they came from, once their intelligence level gets to that point, what will they surmise?
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