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PacMan777
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24. October 2007 @ 19:58 |
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Originally posted by PY2000:
Thank you again, PacMan 777, I will definitely re-try DVDFab. I'm just so used to the other three (3) pieces of software and have been happy with them, especially, the audio options associated with films. From what you described, such options are not available with DVDFab, in the free version...doesn't this cause issues in playback? Usually, I have to uncheck certain audio and language options which are part of the original source DVD. Are you happy with the quality of the burns you might undertake?
The issue I had, was the size of the rip, as I had no idea how to shrink the ripped video, so for me it was pointless. Then a friend advised me, and the next issue was using ImgBurn to burn the files, but they wouldn't work in any player I tried.
Clearly, I'm not as adept as you where all of this is concerned, so as a result, I appreciate any and all advice individuals such as yourself afford newbies such as me! :) Best, PY
Missed your post on this one. Ripping with DVDFab is little different than ripping with DVD Decrypter. You get the full DVD content. You still open the DVD files in your choice of transcoding software (where you can edit languages, audio and video content). It's just not as easy as having RipIt4Me open files for you in DVD Shrink. You can still burn with DVD Decrypter if you like. ImgBurn is the updated version of the Decrypter burner ware by the same author. I buy some pretty crappy DVDs at sale occasionally and the program rips them. I have one drive that reads better than the other. So, there seems to be more than one variable when it comes to reading less than prime media.
No playback issues. I get excellent quality from the different decryption software and the various transcoding and encoding software burning the output with various burners. I've got a list of software that reads like a whose who of backup software. For my preferred use, without using programs to stay current, I use RipIt4Me or DVDFab HD Decrypter to bypass copy protection, RB/CCE to encode, and Nero Express to burn. None of the transcoding software can compare to RB for higher compression rates. Video quality is just as good when using any of the software within normal parameters.
DVDFab HD Decrypter and RipIt4Me are free. RI4M won't do a few of the newer releases. So far neither will AnyDVD. So there's two freeware programs that bypass the copy protection, one you say you're familiar with. Use the last version of RipIt4Me when/if you go to use it, 1.7.1.0. DVD Shrink still does a good job transcoding and doing minor edits. It even does some movies by itself, when they have weak copy protection. You can still burn with DVD Decrypter, same as before. I'd suggest ImgBurn, which is free. The point I'm making here is that you don't need to change your process very much and the entire job can be done with freeware while getting good quality output.
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PacMan777
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24. October 2007 @ 20:10 |
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Originally posted by binkie7:
@PY2000
No worries - all is good :)
Too bad those tips didn't work for you though :(
@PacMan777
Oh and have all the good ones :) The ones I'm talking about are the ones that nothing else can rip cause of scratches and maybe a bad press - that's what I meant by less than perfect :)
I'll use decrypter by it's lonesome on those that it can handle - usually my older ones. On the very few newer ones that I get read errors on w/ the 'heavier' protection then I'll use ripit4me.
Just my preferences :)
Here's my solution for those badly beat up DVDs. It brings them back as long as they aren't deeply gouged or have the inner dye layer damaged.
I've got an old copy of 321's XRescue that saves files from bad discs that DVD Decrypter can't handle. Too bad they were put out of business.
I guess we've all got our favorites. LOL I've not used that disc resurfacing tool or the XRescue in the longest. They're still there if I need them though. ;)
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24. October 2007 @ 21:02 |
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Originally posted by binkie7:
I still use decrypter by it's lonesome on the discs that it can handle. IMHO it's the best ripper for those less than perfect discs.
hey binkie
you are saying decrytper might work better on a scratched disc?
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24. October 2007 @ 21:12 |
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LOL The name's not Binkie, but maybe I can answer your question. DVD Decrypter is more adjustable with the many settings available. It appears to slow down more and the number or retries can be preset, to get the most data possible and still not keep trying for an overly long period. Plus there's the various decryption modes. The only thing I've found to beat it is XRescue and that program is no longer available. Even if a copy can be found, getting it activated to work may not be possible. Anyone know where a 321 support site is? ;)
DVD Decrypter would still be my choice if it was updated. For a long time I ripped with DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD in the background for bypassing copy protection. Then the studios started tampering with structure and that ended using that combo.
When you rip with DVDFab HD Decrypter and it hits an error, it gives you the ignore option or ignore all, without doing the multiple retries. Plus it decrypts only in File mode. Even when ripping in ISO it appears to rip in File and then create an ISO.
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Hey born2ride
The real binkie here :) PacMan pretty much spelled it out so not much more to add.
But yeah it's still my fav when it comes to those scratched ones. Though if too bad it still won't do it. But it's done the job for me when others failed. That and turtle wax :)
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25. October 2007 @ 07:51 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
The name's not Binkie,
I'd never try to impersonate anyone as famous as you Binkie.
born2ride
It's all about refraction and laser optics. Lens repair kits for glasses, buffing compound, mildly abrasive car polishes, yellow markers, toothpaste... and the list goes on. Anything to polish or remove the scratches from the polycarbonate outer layer so the optical head can read the data on the inner dye layer.
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25. October 2007 @ 09:28 |
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Ive been ripping DVDs for about 4 years now and now I am having real problems like never before. I normally use Shrink with AnyDVD they rip with DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn. When I go to rip the movie onto a disc using either DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn the movie rips to about 8% then stops all together until it tells me it has a I/O error and on the bottom of the message it says Write Error.
I use Windows Vista Ultimate and Im only getting these problems now. How do I take the ripped movies I have on my HDD and rip them to a disc using another program if I cant get DVD Decrypter to work. I tried using DVDFab HD but something failed using that as well.
Any and all suggestions would be a huge help. I have a Sony Vaio RB-43 with a Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-109 in it. I havent messed with the firmware yet cause I was thinking of just replacing it. Would that piece of hardware cause these problems?
Thanks in advance.
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25. October 2007 @ 09:37 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
Originally posted by PY2000:
Thank you again, PacMan 777, I will definitely re-try DVDFab. I'm just so used to the other three (3) pieces of software and have been happy with them, especially, the audio options associated with films. From what you described, such options are not available with DVDFab, in the free version...doesn't this cause issues in playback? Usually, I have to uncheck certain audio and language options which are part of the original source DVD. Are you happy with the quality of the burns you might undertake?
The issue I had, was the size of the rip, as I had no idea how to shrink the ripped video, so for me it was pointless. Then a friend advised me, and the next issue was using ImgBurn to burn the files, but they wouldn't work in any player I tried.
Clearly, I'm not as adept as you where all of this is concerned, so as a result, I appreciate any and all advice individuals such as yourself afford newbies such as me! :) Best, PY
Missed your post on this one. Ripping with DVDFab is little different than ripping with DVD Decrypter. You get the full DVD content. You still open the DVD files in your choice of transcoding software (where you can edit languages, audio and video content). It's just not as easy as having RipIt4Me open files for you in DVD Shrink. You can still burn with DVD Decrypter if you like. ImgBurn is the updated version of the Decrypter burner ware by the same author. I buy some pretty crappy DVDs at sale occasionally and the program rips them. I have one drive that reads better than the other. So, there seems to be more than one variable when it comes to reading less than prime media.
No playback issues. I get excellent quality from the different decryption software and the various transcoding and encoding software burning the output with various burners. I've got a list of software that reads like a whose who of backup software. For my preferred use, without using programs to stay current, I use RipIt4Me or DVDFab HD Decrypter to bypass copy protection, RB/CCE to encode, and Nero Express to burn. None of the transcoding software can compare to RB for higher compression rates. Video quality is just as good when using any of the software within normal parameters.
DVDFab HD Decrypter and RipIt4Me are free. RI4M won't do a few of the newer releases. So far neither will AnyDVD. So there's two freeware programs that bypass the copy protection, one you say you're familiar with. Use the last version of RipIt4Me when/if you go to use it, 1.7.1.0. DVD Shrink still does a good job transcoding and doing minor edits. It even does some movies by itself, when they have weak copy protection. You can still burn with DVD Decrypter, same as before. I'd suggest ImgBurn, which is free. The point I'm making here is that you don't need to change your process very much and the entire job can be done with freeware while getting good quality output.
Hi Pack Man 777, Thank you again for the information. I am using the last version of RipIt4Me, which is used in conjunction with DVDDecrpter and DVDShrink. I have never used DVDDecypter as a stand alone application. It is with that process that I receive in DVDDecrypter the error messages I posted. Since you use RipIt4Me, as well, are you not receiving the same error messages when it moves to the DVDDecrypter phase? I still believe the error messages may be a settings issue but not sure. For burning I use ImgBurn.
Last evening I used DVD Fab (the version I have is 3.1.1.2) and it seems to do just fine, in terms of backing-up the video but, I don't see any of the options you mentioned (beyond those unavailable in the free version), is that because I'm not using a separate transcoder, and is there a free application you would recommend? I don't think I understand how DVD Fab compresses the video so it will fit on a DVD, as in RipIt4Me, there are options to choose, perhaps, you could advise?
Thank you again!
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25. October 2007 @ 09:39 |
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Originally posted by Spiral216:
Ive been ripping DVDs for about 4 years now and now I am having real problems like never before. I normally use Shrink with AnyDVD they rip with DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn. When I go to rip the movie onto a disc using either DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn the movie rips to about 8% then stops all together until it tells me it has a I/O error and on the bottom of the message it says Write Error.
I use Windows Vista Ultimate and Im only getting these problems now. How do I take the ripped movies I have on my HDD and rip them to a disc using another program if I cant get DVD Decrypter to work. I tried using DVDFab HD but something failed using that as well.
Any and all suggestions would be a huge help. I have a Sony Vaio RB-43 with a Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-109 in it. I havent messed with the firmware yet cause I was thinking of just replacing it. Would that piece of hardware cause these problems?
Thanks in advance.
Here is the log for DVD Decrypter please help!!
I 08:29:37 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 08:29:37 Microsoft Windows Code Name "Longhorn" Media Center Edition (6.0, Build 6000)
I 08:29:37 Initialising SPTI...
I 08:29:37 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 08:29:37 Found 1 CD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!
I 08:30:31 Operation Started!
I 08:30:31 Source File: C:\DVD WORK\GODFATHER_PART2_A.ISO
I 08:30:31 Source File Sectors: 2,285,848 (MODE1/2048)
I 08:30:31 Source File Size: 4,681,416,704 bytes
I 08:30:31 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink
I 08:30:31 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 1.00 (D:) (ATA)
I 08:30:31 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x)
I 08:30:31 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496
I 08:30:31 Write Mode: DVD
I 08:30:31 Write Type: SAO
I 08:30:31 Write Speed: MAX
I 08:30:31 Link Size: Auto
I 08:30:31 Test Mode: No
I 08:30:31 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 08:30:31 Filling Buffer...
I 08:30:32 Writing LeadIn...
I 08:32:36 Writing Image...
I 08:36:48 Abort Request Acknowledged
I 08:36:48 Synchronising Cache...
E 08:36:49 Failed to Write Image!
E 08:36:49 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:06:17
I 08:36:49 Average Write Rate: 1,572 KB/s (1.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,336 KB/s (6.0x)
The only reason I aborted is that it the computer would not respond. It just counts up and the program doesnt burn anything.
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25. October 2007 @ 12:49 |
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@Spiral216
Update the firmware - try 1.58 from here - link.
If you get a target not found you'll need to check Sony's website and see if they have one available.
Looks like you still have the original firmware so without updating it some newer media may give it a problem.
Ritek is decent media by if after the firmware update still fails try different media like Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim or made in Japan Sony, Fuji or Maxell.
Take the burn speed down from max to 8x or lower.
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PacMan777
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25. October 2007 @ 15:28 |
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Originally posted by py2000:
Last evening I used DVD Fab (the version I have is 3.1.1.2) and it seems to do just fine, in terms of backing-up the video but, I don't see any of the options you mentioned (beyond those unavailable in the free version), is that because I'm not using a separate transcoder, and is there a free application you would recommend? I don't think I understand how DVD Fab compresses the video so it will fit on a DVD, as in RipIt4Me, there are options to choose, perhaps, you could advise?
Go to http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm and download the latest free DVDFab HD Decrypter. Your software is seriously out of date. As I said, it's free. Then you'll need to keep it updated.
From your post it appears you don't have a complete understanding of the software. RipIt4Me (RI4M) uses DVD Decrypter and incorporated FixVTS software to bypass copy protection and process the source files for structural compliance. RI4M then opens the files in DVD Shrink using the quick analysis to check the files for DVD compliance. Usually if quick analysis completes properly, the files will transcode properly with Shrink. At that point RipIt4Me is done. You have the option of closing Shrink and using any backup software of your choosing. Transcode the cleaned source files, encode them or burn to DL, your choice. For Shrink users RipIt4Me makes things easy. The files are loaded for you. Howvever from there on it's strictly DVD Shrink and burn either with a supported burner or do it manually.
All that said, you use the decrypted files from DVDFab HD Decrypter in DVD Shrink the same as you would with RipIt4Me. The only difference is that you have to load the files by selectiing Open Files from the menu, browsing to the source files location, and selecting them. Audio and subpictures can be unchecked as usual in Shrink or the Reauthor can be used for more extensive editing. I hear there's even a way to edit using Still Image in Full Disc mode. You might want to run a search on that. The Help selection in the Shrink menu still works as well. Once Shrink has transcoded (shrunk) the output files to fit a DVD5 you burn in the normal way, use one of the supported burners or copy to hard drive and burn manually from there.
Hope that helps. From your post it seems you thought RipIt4Me was doing more than it actually was. I know, it rips in Full DVD, Movie, Movie+Menu, and ISO and DVDFab only has Full or Main Movie. But audio and subpicture is still removed in the transcoder. I use this software all the time and I don't see where you could be having problems if you're using it correctly. There's guides all over the place and there are links to guides in the Help Topics as I mentioned earlier. The one from Doom9 is specific for 3.2.
Good luck.
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25. October 2007 @ 22:26 |
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PacMan777
thanks for the info. its seemed the older vs ripped damaged disc better than the newer ones. i never really got into using decrypter.. in the beginning i had so much trouble with ripit ,decr. i just gave up and used dvdfab. it was sweet when they link all the apps together then i enjoyed ripit.
back to the point it seem even the earlier vs of fab rip damage disc better
unless it just a drive issue with my new pc.
i have more issue with light abrasion on disc now then before.
yes they are damage. lol dam kids he must think look yummy!
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25. October 2007 @ 22:44 |
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Sounds like you need one of those disk resurfacing tools I showed the pic for. It's got a slightly abrasive wheel. You spray water on the disc and give it a few turns. I noticed they had one at the local rental store for their DVDs. The newer model sets on the table instead of being hand held. A couple of years ago I was buying a lot of used DVDs and the "grinder" got a lot of business.
As for reading with different software. I don't seem to have a problem there. Everything I use seems to do a good job. The only time I need something special is when a disc is slightly mutilated. That's when DVD Decrypter can come in handy for some people. That's when I use the resurfacing tool and XRescue if there's still a damage problem.
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26. October 2007 @ 12:14 |
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how old is XRescue i never hear of it before you mentioned it?
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26. October 2007 @ 13:12 |
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A few years. XRescue was a 321 Studios product. 321 was the company closed down by prosecution that set the precedent for shutting down other decryption software suppliers. If you notice, only the off shore locations are able to keep selling and updating those programs. In countries abiding by international copyright laws decryption software is illegal. If Slysoft or RipIt4Me were in the US, UK, or other country that abides by international copyright laws, they would be shut down.
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26. October 2007 @ 14:15 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
Originally posted by py2000:
Last evening I used DVD Fab (the version I have is 3.1.1.2) and it seems to do just fine, in terms of backing-up the video but, I don't see any of the options you mentioned (beyond those unavailable in the free version), is that because I'm not using a separate transcoder, and is there a free application you would recommend? I don't think I understand how DVD Fab compresses the video so it will fit on a DVD, as in RipIt4Me, there are options to choose, perhaps, you could advise?
Go to http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm and download the latest free DVDFab HD Decrypter. Your software is seriously out of date. As I said, it's free. Then you'll need to keep it updated.
From your post it appears you don't have a complete understanding of the software. RipIt4Me (RI4M) uses DVD Decrypter and incorporated FixVTS software to bypass copy protection and process the source files for structural compliance. RI4M then opens the files in DVD Shrink using the quick analysis to check the files for DVD compliance. Usually if quick analysis completes properly, the files will transcode properly with Shrink. At that point RipIt4Me is done. You have the option of closing Shrink and using any backup software of your choosing. For Shrink users RipIt4Me makes things easy. The files are loaded for you. Howvever from there on it's strictly DVD Shrink and burn either with a supported burner or do it manually.
All that said, you use the decrypted files from DVDFab HD Decrypter in DVD Shrink the same as you would with RipIt4Me. The only difference is that you have to load the files by selectiing Open Files from the menu, browsing to the source files location, and selecting them. Audio and subpictures can be unchecked as usual in Shrink or the Reauthor can be used for more extensive editing. I hear there's even a way to edit using Still Image in Full Disc mode. You might want to run a search on that. The Help selection in the Shrink menu still works as well. Once Shrink has transcoded (shrunk) the output files to fit a DVD5 you burn in the normal way, use one of the supported burners or copy to hard drive and burn manually from there.
Hope that helps. From your post it seems you thought RipIt4Me was doing more than it actually was. I know, it rips in Full DVD, Movie, Movie+Menu, and ISO and DVDFab only has Full or Main Movie. But audio and subpicture is still removed in the transcoder. I use this software all the time and I don't see where you could be having problems if you're using it correctly. There's guides all over the place and there are links to guides in the Help Topics as I mentioned earlier. The one from Doom9 is specific for 3.2.
Good luck.
Hi PacMan777, Thank you again, for the input and assistance. Clearly, you are a much more advanced ripper than I. I have never done anything similar to what you do, I wish I could, but time and the ease of RipIt4Me has worked best, for me. I think I require a course of some kind. For example, I'm not certain what you meant "Transcode the cleaned source files, encode them or burn to DL, your choice." Are you saying I should run DVD Fab and then DVD Shrink? It sounds to me, by what you're sharing, that I have many options available to me, of which I've never taken advantage, and I certainly would like to learn more.
Presently, I simply use RipIt4Me in 1-Click Mode, where it moves through DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink. After it's created the Back-Up file, I burn using ImgBurn that's all. My current problem has to do with when it moves to DVD Decrypter, where I receive the error messages I mentioned previously, in my first post. Is there a setting I may need to change in DVD Decrypter to rid myself of the errors?
Thank you, again! PY2000
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26. October 2007 @ 15:09 |
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RipIt4Me uses it's own settings for DVD Decrypter. I have DVD Decrypter with the decryption turned off, from when I used to use it with AnyDVD. It still decrypts with RipIt4Me. You got what I was saying. Decrypt with DVDFab Decrypter which copies your source files to the hard drive. Those are what I referred to as "cleaned" source files. Open the DVDFab HD Decrypter processed files in DVD Shrink. Transcode is the process of shrinking to fit a DVD5 (4.7) disc. Encoding is another process for fitting larger files to the smaller DVD5. Different software, so we'll not get into that right now. If you burn to a dual layer (DL) disc there's no need to transcode (shrink) the source files. DL holds about 8.5GB.
So, try decrypting with DVDFab HD Decrypter, open the files in Shrink, run Shrink as you did before and burn your output. DVDFab HD Decrypter + DVD Shrink + <burner>, use just those and leave the rest out of the mix and see what happens. Remember to use the latest DVDFab.
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Remember though that the file size on media for single & dual layer is deceiving then what's stated on the label. Dual layer actually holds 7.95 gig and single layer 4.38 gig - give or take a few mbs for the lead in/lead out.
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26. October 2007 @ 22:47 |
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ok well i was having the problems with the power calibration error and got a new media and its been working fine well i have all these old media dvds so out of curiosity i tried the same ricoh ones and now it worx why do you think thats happening
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26. October 2007 @ 23:57 |
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Ok so the new media isn't working after you tried using the Ricoh again?
Same error -power calibration?
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27. October 2007 @ 00:25 |
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Binkie,
My understanding was just the opposite. The new media worked and then jpreyes checked the old media and it started working again.
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27. October 2007 @ 10:59 |
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lol - I totally misread that one.
My guess then is you ran into a bad batch of them.
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27. October 2007 @ 14:12 |
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no the exact same dvd that didnt work i put in a new media after that it worked then that same one right after that and it did work
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27. October 2007 @ 15:41 |
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hey pacman777 you where saying that dvdvdecrypter is not good for vista i also get that dvdplayback mode error everytime i close out of decrypter and i also some times get blue screens and im thinking that it might be why cause it always says a newly installed program may not be installed correctly should i use some thing other than dvd decryptor to burn images if so what and how please i really dont know much about this
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27. October 2007 @ 16:06 |
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Use the updated burn engine of decrypter - ImgBurn
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