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Are we getting swamped by Trolls???
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19. January 2004 @ 14:37 |
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19. January 2004 @ 20:09 |
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19. January 2004 @ 22:38 |
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Wow!! They call him Mr. drchips. If I should ever disagree with you, remember you win. There I made sure to say it. I know what you mean about the grammar I mostly lurked? until today. I have noticed that most of the help I have gotten from AD has come from people who I can easily read what they are writing. Thanks for all the info without it my new dvd burner would just be good looking.
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20. January 2004 @ 01:01 |
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hey dood im sorry man. wot u done is KOOL.how u do that? thats real neet you a HaX0R! we kool.
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drchips
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20. January 2004 @ 07:03 |
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Quote:
hey dood im sorry man.
Accepted.Quote:
how u do that?
Trade Secret.Quote:
you a HaX0R
Nope, a professional.
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20. January 2004 @ 08:54 |
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Dr chips. I am determined to find out how you do that. The only problem is that my brother (he's been in computers all his life) now lives approx 12000 miles away from me!! GODDAMMIT!! I fancy a keyboard sniffer myself, why bother trying to crack encryption etc. I will now wrap my pc & computer in tin foil to prevent anybody penetrating my system. What firewall etc do you consider the best for protection? Personally, I think that no matter what you try, there will always be someone out there one step ahead!
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drchips
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20. January 2004 @ 09:41 |
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Hiya pulsar,Quote:
I will now wrap my pc & computer in tin foil to prevent anybody penetrating my system
you also need a tin-foil hat covering at least the top half of your head, as the satellites can read your brain-waves otherwise, and ALL YOUR SECRETS are in your brain SOMEWHERE... ;-oQuote:
What firewall etc do you consider the best for protection?
there is no "best" as such; it IS advisable to have multiple layers of security using differing technologies, my home systems for example:
internet -> Smoothwall Appliance -> Stateful Inspection appliance -> Managed Secure Switch -> network.
PC's on the network run two-way application level-firewalls, in a sandbox environment with the usual AV, Adaware/AdWatch, AdsGone, Popup Killer, HiJackThis, RealTime Cookie Cutter etc. etc...
All logs are held & examined regularly.Quote:
Personally, I think that no matter what you try, there will always be someone out there one step ahead!
very true.
In general I would say I cannot get my systems as secure as I would like WITHOUT affecting useability to some extent, so they are made sufficiently difficult to discourage most attempts, and any determined attempt shows in the logs and is flagged by the reviewing software which has control over the managed switch - basically, if it is not happy it can pull the plug on the outgoing connection.
In general, if someone is just scanning around looking for a system or network to crack, they will go for the easy targets - lots of unprotected, wide-open Windows boxen out there.
Have Fun...
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20. January 2004 @ 09:52 |
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You are indeed an Oracle. I bet we could talk for hours in a bar somewhere. I do like to talk to people who are not only knowledgeable about several subjects & passion is a good driving force too!! Personally I am an ex-mechanical engineer who has had the pleasure of flying helicopters, cruising at over 160mph on the autobahns for mile after mile in Germany & riding over the French Alps on numerous visits to the south of France on a GSXR-750. 12 hours from the south coast up to Calais, 18 hours non-stop (inc Tunnel time!) to home & dear old Blighty!!
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20. January 2004 @ 10:25 |
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My Grammar is getting worsererer(!). I think all those spy satelites have penetrated my cereberal cortex & have corrupted my thought processes!!
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20. January 2004 @ 12:11 |
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pulsar:
That's what you get for taking the tinfoil off your head to put on your computer. ;-)
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20. January 2004 @ 12:31 |
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My thought process is so weak I find I only need SaranWrap on my head. And maybe a teletubbies beanie for good measure.
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20. January 2004 @ 12:49 |
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I'm not worried about shielding brainwaves. I just hope if anybody is receiving them they'll let me know what all that junk in there is supposed to mean.
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20. January 2004 @ 13:09 |
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LOL
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Praetor
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21. January 2004 @ 13:25 |
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Firewall???? ..... C4. You cant hack what ive already blown up. :P
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21. January 2004 @ 14:58 |
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Nephilim, 114F is crazy!! I would completely melt. Today`s high in Toronto was -13C or 8.6F. I thought it was warm, so many days lately at -22C or -7.6F.
Preator, should go back to the old system before 1960`s, an actual wall of fire. would stop most people, but need to some how stop the computer from melting.
drchips, you have a new cult following. I was going to ask you to try and hit me. I wonder what info the University gives out. I do all my net connections from inside either a hospital or University of Toronto. I know the network is basically wide open, but I wonder how wide? Maybe you could PM me some time.
but as being a really parnoid person, I think on a help forum it is good that people know you are real. Otherwise we could just be machines testing the Turing test to fool all of you. And as for the trolls, they must just be low grade machines, without the new Microsoft Grammer pack. I hate those constant upgrades.
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21. January 2004 @ 16:56 |
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Prisoner:Quote:
I was going to ask you to try and hit me
No way, never - don't go outside the bounds of your own Sovereign Territory; watch but never touch, follow but never intrude etc. etc.Quote:
drchips, you have a new cult following
Oh dear god no, I am paranoid enough without that ;)
Here's an interesting thing:
When in a Turing Test, a higher than statistically average portion of "Experts", when questioned in their area of expertise, were judged to be machines....
Are the Experts becoming more expert?, or less emotional?, are the judgment criteria biased towards emotive content?, or are the expectations slipping?
How easy is it to tell the difference between a well-written program and a dispassionate expert?
Eeee Bah Gum, when I were a kid, Firewalls were PROPER Firewalls, wi' bricks an' mortar an' all, t'were none o' that e-lec-trickery stuff. EEee! it were rough!!
Byeeee...
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22. January 2004 @ 09:58 |
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drchips,
So you're not going to build some cult compound with lots of machine guns, take all our worldly possessions and marry all our daughters? I heard you make some mean Kool-Aid too!
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
"The Reverend drchips is holed up with several hundred followers in a remote farmhouse in Finland. They are all professing servitude to an as yet unidentified deity called "dRD". They have been stockpiling weapons, ammunition, blank DVDs, Pop Tarts and, more ominously, large quantities of grape Kool-Aid and rat poison. Officials have warned against any contact with the cultists and ask that nobody sell them any ammunition or Pop Tarts.
The Reverend is demanding a soverign nation to be called "New Afterdawn" and exemptions from any and all established copyright laws
Finnish officials have refused to comment"
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"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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22. January 2004 @ 12:34 |
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A Digital Phenomenon: The "NEW AFTERDAWNERS"
The Genesis of the "New Afterdawner" Movement is shrouded in mystery, though its influences and parentage is easily understood.
The "New AfterDawners" are a sub-sect of the Afterdawn community, who are highly respected within the Religious Movement known as "Rippers".
As far as our "reporter" has been able to ascertain, the "New AfterDawners" are led by "The Doc", a shadowy figure about whom little is known.
He first came to light within the Afterdawn movement as a NEWBIE (a novice), and within a few short weeks was known as a MEMBER (akin to a priest), this has been a truly meteoric rise, bypassing the JUNIOR MEMBER level - it has been noted by some adherents of the faith that he may be destined for SENIOR MEMBER (a cross between an Elder and a Priest of the Faith) soon, despite his proselytising and lack of tolerance with "1337 DooDZ".
It is rumoured that the true beginnings of the "New AfterDawners" came about after a public clash as illustrated here;
The following is an excerpt from the "Book of the New AfterDawners", ISBN 666-DVD-RIP:Quote:
"The Doc", resplendant in his Tin-Foil Helmet, armed with a Pentium-3 and the Knowledge of his Faith and astride a mighty defence known as "Firewall" did do battle with and smite the "Beasty" on the battlefield known as "Forum"
Your reporter was able to track down and talk with some of the adherents of the faith that witnessed the confrontation.
All of these people are known by their monikers (it is an article of the faith that adherents use "nicknames" when communing with their bretheren) and many have expressed a new level of respect for "The Doc" after witnessing the Taming of the Beast, though there have been some rumblings and expressions of disquiet over the display of such power in a Public Forum.
Careful investigation by our "reporter" indicates the internal organisation of the "New AfterDawners" to be based closely on the precepts as used by the original Afterdawn, with tolerance of differing methodologies being the norm.
Within the structure there can be found the following groups:
The "Purists", those who extoll the teaching of "DVD Decrypter", "DVD2One", "IFOEdit", "RecordNow" and other powerful and arcane techniques - not all are zealots, the belief in "Nero" is strong among the "Purists" and is tolerated.
The "One-Click Transcoders" who chant the mantras according to "DVD Shrink" and "DVD X Copy", some of whom claim miraculous results with their incantations.
The rest seem to be "Undecided" as to the best path to take, though all strongly believe that the "New AfterDawners" are their route to Salvation.
It must be said though, there is little rivalry between the groups, and all try to aid the "Undecided" in any way they can, something that our world should take heed of....
One "Nephilim" inadvertantly published the secret location of "The Doc" and his closest followers along with their "preparations" for the care and protection of the "Faithful" Quote:
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
"The Reverend drchips is holed up with several hundred followers in a remote farmhouse in Finland. They are all professing servitude to an as yet unidentified deity called "dRD". They have been stockpiling weapons, ammunition, blank DVDs, Pop Tarts and, more ominously, large quantities of grape Kool-Aid and rat poison. Officials have warned against any contact with the cultists and ask that nobody sell them any ammunition or Pop Tarts.
The Reverend is demanding a soverign nation to be called "New Afterdawn" and exemptions from any and all established copyright laws
Finnish officials have refused to comment"
- the revealed location and other so-called facts have yet to be confirmed but "The Authorities" seem a little uneasy, and the "Great Leader" of the original Afterdawn, one known as "dRD", has yet to comment.
Is this the Dawning (sic) of a great new movement in our time, or the beginning of another "WACO"?
Only time will tell, and your "reporter" is looking forward to seeing how it all pans out.
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22. January 2004 @ 13:15 |
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I`ll bring the canned tuna. If they cut the power, I am good for 3hours on battery :P
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22. January 2004 @ 18:02 |
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A thousand lashes for the traitorous Nephilim for giving us away!!!!
Wait a minute.......never mind. Just take away his tinfoil hat and Pop Tarts for a week.
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"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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22. January 2004 @ 18:02 |
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And make him use Princos.
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"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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drchips
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22. January 2004 @ 18:26 |
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The "Thousand Lashes" is a just punishment for Heresy, but I fear he MAY ENJOY IT!!
So NO tin-foil hat, NO PopTarts.
Maybe even make him use a MAC for a while.
Having to use PRINCOs is a "Cruel and Unusual" Punishment tho'
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23. January 2004 @ 01:00 |
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ROTFLOL :-)
I'd like to just type few thoughts in here -- I've enjoyed the conversation so far, but wanted to make couple of things clear for everybody.
Things have changed over the last year or so rather dramatically in AfterDawn.com forums -- thousands of new members coming in and old ones "retiring". Also, this has led to a situation where quite a few of our moderators have "retired" from forums, while number of messages per day in forums has peaked to new record heights (600 a day at the moment), meaning that moderators don't have time to put an effort to every single post any more like they used to back in 2002 or so.
Also, the growth of non-English speakers obviously causes some communication problems -- I am, afterall, a non-Engllish speaker myself as well and I know from the past that when you try to get help to your problems and English isn't your main language, the least helpful thing that you can ever get as a reply is a complaint about your grammar :-)
But yes, writing bad English because you're not a native English speaker and writing bad English because you have this strong feeling of your "street background" (wtf are you doing with computers then :-) are totally different things :-)
Also, TYPING EVERYTHING IN CAPS is really annoying and I'll probably one day choose to ban couple of users who do that regularly. Same thing applies for use of meaningful sentences, line breaks, commas, etc. Everybody -- no matter what language you speak -- knows how to use them. Or if not, we probably need to somehow enforce basic education as the criteria for aD membership in very near future.
Anyway, thanks guys for everything that you've done and hopefully keep on doing for the forums by posting messages, helping others, etc. As always, I do apologize the absence of AfterDawn.com admins in the forums -- admins are the guys who run this site and this baby that we started 5 years ago has grown to the scale that we barely have time to sleep nowadays, so visiting forums more often is sorta out of question, unfortunately. But luckily we have very capable team of moderators that are willing to help and normally communicate very efficiently to us when there are problems in forums.
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23. January 2004 @ 03:39 |
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dRD:
I don't think anybody is going to complain about the admins after all the improvements that have been made here. And if they do, we can always send somebody to "have a talk with them" ;) I found this place the same day I bought my first DVD burner, and I started making backups the same day. And it was a lot harder to do it then. There's a lot more information here now than there was then, so you must be doing something right.
Nephilim:
Princos? That's pretty harsh! If you're going to go over the top like that, why not make him use a DVD-RAM only burner?
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23. January 2004 @ 06:46 |
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dRD, no complaints here. The growth of AD is quite a testament to your, and everyone else down the line's work and dedication here. I'm disabled and have plenty of time but this is the only site I visit on a daily basis. I love getting ideas and help here then trying new and different things.
It's fairly easy to pick up on the fact that a poster doesn't speak English natively and I applaud them for trying. As I said before, English is very contradictory and strange. So many words are spelled the same but can have multiple meanings. Many languages are structured similarly, just with different words but not English.
I think the nuts and bolts of this thread is that when you speak English it's simply common courtesy to write a clear and concise post that others can understand. Use gibberish when you IM your buddies that understand it but don't get your panties in a twist when people here either can't understand or don't want to deal with your post.
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