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Zune HD is finally here
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article published on 27 May, 2009
The long awaited Microsoft Zune HD media player is now official, with the company introducing it today (without a price tag however).
"Zune HD is the next iteration of the Zune device family and brings a new level of listening and viewing experiences to the portable media player category," says the press release.
The Zune HD will have a built-in HD radio receiver and can output HD ... [ read the full article ]
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Shinraboy
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28. May 2009 @ 16:45 |
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A what ?????HD. Face it, like it or not Apple set the standard for both mp3 players and smart phones. Everything else is just pale imitation.
There's no arguing that at all. They've given MP3 a face and they've set the standard for touchscreen products.
Still it's not about competition it's about variety. Imagine if everyone and their mother had an "i" something. Boring as hell. iPod is iPod and nobody can take that away. But there's room for other stuff too.
a good amount of people don't like iPhone. Not because it's an Apple product but because of it's lack of copy and paste, mms, I mean REALLY?! C'mon one of the biggest phones in history doesn't do something so basic? It's a bad joke. Im sure they've fixed by now but that was just idiotic.
When it boils down to iTunes it varies I guess....
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atomicxl
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28. May 2009 @ 17:18 |
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They'll probably price this at some crazy amount. My laptop already have HDMI out so I don't really need a Zune to watch HD media.
The best thing about this imo is that the old 16gb Flash Zune will probably be cheap now. I had an old HDD based Zune and loved it to death. It broke (dropped while HDD was spinning)and I HATE the replacement player that I purchased.
I'll definitely be picking up the old flash ones as soon as they drop the price.
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28. May 2009 @ 19:44 |
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I'll probably pick one of these up when they come out. I've been very happy with the my zunes.
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29. May 2009 @ 02:05 |
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Last I checked you didn?t speak for everyone nor do I agree with your argument
Keep Puffin MrPuffin? :~)
i wasnt trying to say that i speak for every one and you dont have to agree with what i was saying
(its all about your own views i may dislike microsoft but if you tell me apple sucks thats your opinion and i respect that)
also what did you mean by keep Puffin MrPuffin
someone also told me dont buy a product off of marketing alone didnt say anything about buying cause of that just said they need better marketing (could have worded differantly
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29. May 2009 @ 03:03 |
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I have Owned an Original Zune 30g since a month after release <that is almost 3 years ago now>. I do not use the software for anything more then a sync interface. I have folders set to auto sync to keep my library up to date and i have pod casts it auto downloads and syncs for me. All i have to do is plug it in to charge at night and it does it wireless. Updates have been free and aside from capacity there is nothing a new zune can do that mine can't. Audio Quality is more then respectable with a pair of shure ear buds and if you know how to set up the sync software handles a fair number of formats and bit rates. As far as why would somebody watch video on such a small screen? i tend to watch old episodes of TV series when on the bus or otherwise caught in situations when i don't want some moron trying to strike up a conversation because HE is bored. Bundle that with a Zune pass and the ability to search for new music on any unsecured hub? I really dont see what all the complaining is about. Zune.. Good Product, and it gets better every year.
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29. May 2009 @ 08:28 |
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Shinraboy, I am more than impressed! They must have made VAST improvements. That is the problem with not staying current. We did avoid the 'upgrade of death' that killed ALL Zunes that had the update and did an unfortunated sequence of events ending with trying to play a high bit rate tune.
Morreale, other than being designed to be used by idiots and slow as molasses in January the real complaint is most of the changes made in the last 3-4 years to iTunes have been improving security and attack routines. Why would anyone put a policeman in a box on their computer? I love the shoot first ask questions attitude they have. If you complain they assume you are lying.
MrPuffin, go for it! You are one of the only Apple supporters that is technical enough to make a good argument. Don't let mean old Mr Movies push you around!
Scaldari, a 10 dollar mp3 player has excellent audio (with high end ear buds) so I do not think audio quality is much of a defense. For that matter, I have seen several defenses of the Zune Hardware but have not seen any attacks on the hardware. They are still putting in first rate HDs and vivid screens into all the Zunes.
The general complaint is the Zune team is a bunch of clueless morons coming up with dopy gimmicks to insult our intellegence as if they were as clever as the Apple team.
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29. May 2009 @ 10:19 |
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"Scaldari, a 10 dollar mp3 player has excellent audio (with high end ear buds) so I do not think audio quality is much of a defense. For that matter, I have seen several defenses of the Zune Hardware but have not seen any attacks on the hardware. They are still putting in first rate HDs and vivid screens into all the Zunes."
Beg to differ, sitting on a $600 pocket PC based one that is almost painful to listen to. But for the sake of Mobile Pandora ;) lol. Also, at least to my ears, the Zune has noticeably superior audio then the iPod.
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salsa36
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29. May 2009 @ 12:03 |
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Long awaited
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Who want this?
It's a sad new attempt to get a share of the pie from Apple.
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29. May 2009 @ 12:33 |
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hrmm
well i know ive used the video out function on my zune to play movies at friends houses, and the only complaint has been video quality on larger screens... so i guess... anybody who wants a pocket device capable of transmitting a HD picture to a display?
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Long awaited
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Who want this?
It's a sad new attempt to get a share of the pie from Apple.
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29. May 2009 @ 14:21 |
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I am way to lazy to go out and hunt for a review I read a few years ago and the newer reviews do not include audio quality specs.
Analog->digital and Digital->analog conversions were perfected in the 80s. I really doubt that the Zune has inventer a new way to do conversions.
From memory, which isn't all that great anymore, excluding power output, the different modles were within a 100th of a percent of one another. Maybe the Zune has more power so it sounds better.
I will have to listen to a Zune this weekend just to see for my self.
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SSSJDanny
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29. May 2009 @ 17:15 |
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Long awaited
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Who want this?
It's a sad new attempt to get a share of the pie from Apple.
Okay. Cause Apple should be the only one to be able to distribute any kind of MP3 players, so they can jack up prices, and come out with a new feature so they can create a newer ipod every 3 months... to me thats a waste, and people still buy that crap.
At least from the first 3 gen Zunes if there was an upgrade you could always get the new software, not counting the touch sensor, you could still have all the same features the 3rd Gen did on your first Gen.
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29. May 2009 @ 18:20 |
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Originally posted by SSSJDanny:
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Long awaited
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Who want this?
It's a sad new attempt to get a share of the pie from Apple.
Okay. Cause Apple should be the only one to be able to distribute any kind of MP3 players, so they can jack up prices, and come out with a new feature so they can create a newer ipod every 3 months... to me thats a waste, and people still buy that crap.
At least from the first 3 gen Zunes if there was an upgrade you could always get the new software, not counting the touch sensor, you could still have all the same features the 3rd Gen did on your first Gen.
yes i agree with you to a point but most of apples improvements were on hardware not software that is why they are worth getting
the zune 1st gen has all the same components as the 2nd and 3rd gen except for hard drive and touch pad
not to mention that the newer gen zunes are slower than the first gen as they put a cap on the processing to save battery
so i wonder why do we buy new ipods
(hell if pc's were the same as zunes we would start with 333mhz and be getting 100mhz pc in the future just cause it looks different and has a new HD with same exact features)
besides some people don't want to have new features on my old zune i would rather run 1.0 but because of forced updating i have 3.0 which is slower and lags compared to 1.0
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nprfan
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1. June 2009 @ 23:26 |
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I wish the makers of these products would start making lossless formats, like FLAC, a priority.
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Mez
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2. June 2009 @ 08:10 |
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nprfan, there is some activity in that direction. There are some persons that do prefer to listen to lossless, even on a space limited device.
I never had anyone give me a good reason why you would want to listen to lossless on a player with any size limitation. Most persons that only listen to lossless are wholly ignorant of the technologies involved. There are good reasons to keep a lossless library. Playing that music is smarter and easier than converting to lossy to play.
I am only picking on those that refuse to listen to lossy because it doesn't sound good enough for them. They figure the bigger file must be better. Then analog junkies have you by the balls. They rightly contend most of the data on analog media is lost when it is converted to digital. Unlike digital, analog media ages especially when it is used. Unlike digital, some of these defects are in prime human hearing range.
Everyone uses lossly compression in digital photography. Maybe the lossless junkies don't know that and if they did, maybe they would go back to film.
There is no hearable difference between a well made mp3 and lossless. That is a scientific fact supported by the digital audiophiles of the world. There are tools that will allow you to compare the analog output of lossless with lossy. These ought to be the same with the human hearing range. mp3s cut out ultrasonics to greatly reduce size. The high bit rate mp3s do not remove any data in the hearable range. As humans age, we lose the ability to hear high pitched tones. Most 30 year olds with a trained ear can't discern a well made 192 CBR mp3 over lossless. 320 is massive over kill. 12,500 (lossless which is still lossy) is 4 times massive over kill.
The reason some listen to lossless is because they want to. I just talked with a good friend last weekend that only listens to wave files on his player. He claims flac files are too weak for him to listen to. He will only listen to waves. I figure he isn't hurting anyone.
If you like, I can find out what he uses. Then you can listen to waves!
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Mez
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2. June 2009 @ 13:13 |
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Just because you think a thing doesn't make it so.
There is a whole community that tests almost every aspect on a hifi encoder such as LAME. Saying they don't know what they are doing would piss off that entire community. It is a kin to saying the US foot is a milimeter short. Who are you to claim the guys at NIST don't know what they are talking about.
Data compression transparency article - 192 CBR using a high fidelity endoder will produce a transparent to lossless audio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_(data_compression)
How they test (using ABX)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABX_test
Sorry to get off subject!
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YOBUZZB
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4. June 2009 @ 01:02 |
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Have to agree with some comments here. I like the Zune! I prefer it over Apple, but the speed of sync leaves a lot to be desired. I've read quite a bit on the Zune HD and I don't think I'll buy it. I'm simply not impressed by flash memory or touch screen or the accelerator. I do understand, however, the only way to make it thinner is to go with the flash drive, but read it might not be larger than 32GB and that simply will not do. I like the 80GB & 120GB drives. Do that with the flash and I'll buy it, providing it's of comparable price. Bought an 80GB and 120GB on brand new - still in an unopened packaging- for $100.00 and $120.00 respectively. Make software or speed up the processor for them that will make it sync faster without sacrificing battery life (improve that tooo) and I have no need to buy any other PMP!
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mellisito
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29. June 2009 @ 21:19 |
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the zune hd have control remote like de zune 120gb
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Mez
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30. June 2009 @ 07:16 |
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YOBUZZB, anytime you can buy a descent player for a buck a gig is a great deal.
Apple disks last about 1.5 years. The Zune disks last like the old ipods. I like flash drives becuase they have a longer life but more importantly, I would prefer to be able to listen to 36 hrs of my 320 hrs of music vs 4 hrs of 12,800 hrs. Isn't scrolling through 120 of music looking for what you want very annoying?
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